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Is there actually anything cheaper in Poland than in UK?


poland_  
2 Feb 2013 /  #31
what you also need to understand is that poles have much more disposable income than british people

I believe you mean a higher percentage of their earnings is disposable income.

Is there actually any great expense for a household in the UK that could change this ratio?

The cost of living is significantly less expensive in Warsaw than it is in London.

Less expensive in Poland.

Property, Food, Restaurants, Petrol/Diesel, Theater/Movies, Transport (inner city and city to city), Schools, Clothing except designer/brand, Ski-ing, hotels, sailing, tennis,Football match, Entertainment in general, Cleaner,Driver, Gardener and much more.

More expensive in Poland

Luxury items, designer clothing, mostly all that is imported.

Most foreigners in Poland have a much higher quality of life in here, as all is accessable, there are no real restrictions also traveling takes much less time.

Hence I presume the costs of life are higher in Poland than in the UK!!

Zeti it is necessary to judge like for like. Somewhere like Radom should be judged against the quality of life in say Nottingham.

London could only be judged against Warsaw, so on, so on....
OP zetigrek  
2 Feb 2013 /  #32
So was I after I recently discovered there was a fee, but somebody else contradicted that, I think it was on this forum somewhere, and said I have to pay separately as not all cable companies collect it.

I think it's a problem of your landlord not yours. Those fees are collected by Poczta Polska only, not anyone else. It's to support Polish public channels and radiostations.
Radders  3 | 47  
2 Feb 2013 /  #33
The cost of living is significantly less expensive in Warsaw than it is in London.

Very true. Typical cost of a night-out in pln;
Grzegorz_  51 | 6138  
2 Feb 2013 /  #34
Sorry but 6 pln for a beer is for sure not a typical price in Kraków, more like 8-10 at least, how can the same wine be so much cheaper here If in both cases it comes from the 3rd country ? Alcohol tax so much higher ?
AndrewPilski  - | 8  
2 Feb 2013 /  #35
nope. maybe just some products but almost nothing i quess
InWroclaw  89 | 1910  
2 Feb 2013 /  #36
I think it's a problem of your landlord not yours. Those fees are collected by Poczta Polska only, not anyone else. It's to support Polish public channels and radiostations.

Thanks, I didn't realise that. I very much doubt the landlords I have met would pay for my TV licence but I can ask! :o)

In the UK, it is the responsibility of the tenant. And they know who has a licence because each address is on a database. They send an employee of the BBC or a sub-contractor to the address and if they can prove a TV is being used for watching live TV then there's a large court fine for the tenant to pay. I think it's GBP1000 sometimes (5500zł)

there are no real restrictions also traveling takes much less time.

The trains are very slow, so you're obviously not talking about that. And Warsaw is full of jams, so you don't mean by road. What do you mean, please?
poland_  
2 Feb 2013 /  #37
The trains are very slow, so you're obviously not talking about that. And Warsaw is full of jams, so you don't mean by road. What do you mean, please?

Every city in Europe is full of jams come rush hour, at lot of the road jams in Warsaw are made a lot worse by the road works. Traffic in Warsaw is no where near that of London i fact it is quite light most of the time.

As for trains if you travel inter-regio it can be a nightmare as for intercity and TLK a 1st class ticket to KRK I can buy for 75 PLN now that is cheap for a 300 Klm + journey to Krakow.
Radders  3 | 47  
2 Feb 2013 /  #38
Sorry but 6 pln for a beer is for sure not a typical price in Kraków, more like 8-10 at least, how can the same wine be so much cheaper here If in both cases it comes from the 3rd country ? Alcohol tax so much higher ?

OK say 8pln for 33cl beer in centre of old town - Buddha Bar price

Polish wine duty is 1pln for 75cl + 22% VAT; UK is 6.25pln plus 20% but this isn't the difference - restaurant mark-up here is commonly 200% over retail price and you can easily pay 200pln for a quite ordinary Rioja
ismellnonsense  - | 118  
2 Feb 2013 /  #39
They send an employee of the BBC or a sub-contractor to the address and if they can prove a TV is being used for watching live TV then there's a large court fine for the tenant to pay. I think it's GBP1000 sometimes (5500zł)

anyone with an ounce of common sense knows exactly
how to deal with those 'inspectors'

dont open the door
dont talk
dont negotiate
dont say anything

Sorry but 6 pln for a beer is for sure not a typical price in Kraków, more like 8-10 at least

really not
in winter months
6-7pln is normal
InWroclaw  89 | 1910  
2 Feb 2013 /  #40
dont open the door dont talk dont negotiate dont say anything

Two words uttered quietly but firmly through the closed door may have the desired repellent effect: Jimmy Savile

Traffic in Warsaw is no where near that of London i fact it is quite light most of the time.

I've been told they're very bad and worse than London's. Of course, the worst are Moscow's, as is legendary.
jon357  73 | 23071  
2 Feb 2013 /  #41
dont open the door
dont talk
dont negotiate
dont say anything

Yes. You don't have to acknowledge them, and like so many 'enforcers', they tend to go for soft targets.

I've been told they're very bad and worse than London's. Of course, the worst are Moscow's, as is legendary.

There are some pretty spectacular traffic jams in Warsaw. Caused by rapid growth of the city, incompetent traffic management and above all appallingly low standards of driving.
ismellnonsense  - | 118  
2 Feb 2013 /  #42
Yes. You don't have to acknowledge them, and like so many 'enforcers', they tend to go for soft targets.

have you seen the websites dedicated to fighting them
ive seen some cracking videos
i had an argument with one such chap once
i asked him why tv licencing had never secured a prosecution
on the basis of detector evidence
InWroclaw  89 | 1910  
2 Feb 2013 /  #43
and above all appallingly low standards of driving.

It won't be news to you that Wrocław has that franchise too, a car stopped at the exit of a side road then turned right and accelerated on to the crossing I was using without even looking where he was going and he just missed my legs by centimetres as I leapt out of the way. Fairly often, I come across signs on the road here of smashes all over the place. Yesterday a woman stopped to let me cross on a zebra, and it's so unusual to get a courtesy that I was tempted to buy her flowers from the kiosk nearby... My luck continued today and a woman bashed into me at the checkout in Biedronka and actually apologised, of course I apologised to her too as is the English way, but it's the first time I can remember a mature Polish person accepting blame. Of course, had I probed a bit, I might've discovered she was from the States or Germany and just knew the Polish for 'sorry'...
ismellnonsense  - | 118  
2 Feb 2013 /  #44
but it's the first time I can remember a mature Polish person accepting blame.

wow
that doesn't happen
they are brought up to believe that they deserve to be treated like queens
even though they have voices like bobby george
and are of a similar socio economic status to a limpet
poland_  
2 Feb 2013 /  #45
a car stopped at the exit of a side road then accelerated on to the crossing I was using without even looking where he was going and he just missed my legs by centimetres as I leapt out of the way

They are in the process of changing the laws in Poland re: traffic lights and pedestrian crossings.
jon357  73 | 23071  
2 Feb 2013 /  #46
Good. My lodger was run over and killed on a crossing last year. He was a good friend who didn't deserve to die when using a pedestrian crossing.
ismellnonsense  - | 118  
2 Feb 2013 /  #47
They are in the process of changing the laws in Poland re: traffic lights and pedestrian crossings.

they absolutely need to put a stop to the green phase for pedestrians colliding with cars that also have green
it works in places like sweden because drivers have respect
in poland no chance
OP zetigrek  
2 Feb 2013 /  #48
Now how about power electricity, water (+sewage), gas (this in a kitchen)?
pam  
3 Feb 2013 /  #49
I have no idea about energy prices in Poland.
I pay about £1100 per year for gas and electric ( I have a 2 bed flat with gch ), which is roughly 5,400 PLN
My water and sewerage bill is about £370 per year ( 1813 PLN )
Energy prices in the UK are expensive, and they keep going up. I would be surprised if it's more expensive in Poland.
MoOli  9 | 479  
3 Feb 2013 /  #50
Advice from British expats is also cheap in Poland:)
milky  13 | 1656  
3 Feb 2013 /  #51
In context of wages(UK,Eire, Pol)
many food items are almost the same price as the UK, bread, meat, milk, etc same with Beers and fags. In Eire 20 fags cost a little less than an hours work-minimum wage, in Poland a little more than an hours work- minimum wage. However, electronic,Cd's, book,cars,petrol,oil,rent, certain foods, can be up to several time more expensive. for example a CD, a person on the the most common wage in Poland needs to work about 5 hours to buy a new release, a person in Eire 1 hour. (roughly) In context of wages Poland is a very expensive country, hence mass immigration.

Water is wet.

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