What do Polish people think about Wales and Welsh people?

This sounds like a load of bochoks

not really as Cymraeg has this sound too...and it's made the throat whereas the LL is made in the same place as English L

Yes, I speak Polish (..but am really a bilingual native German-English speaker!) and your analogy with "chleb" is quite helpful-:)

Thank you,very helpfuch.


interesting,thanks, I could have said like "lech" but with an "o" .


hehehe,which would have baffled most englishmen as they pronounce it "Lock". :)


You did notice the "non welsh speaker" and "closest" didnt you? :) You buggers are all alike,moan that no one speaks your language or miss pronunces it,then when some one does pronunce it right you have to pick the teeniest tiniest ickle thing to find wrong ....must be all the Irish genes in todays Welsh ;)

i'd like to have a go at this.

ch as in chleb. L as in lad. + an

chlan should come out as llan

well it wasn't that "ickle" to be honest..hell of a difference between CH in "Loch" or "Clarach" and LL in Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch. Besides I only answered because Lyzko the Linguist seemd to be interested in getting it right...::))

Oh and just to stop you getting all "Welshist" have you not noticed my user name? Saesneg?? Sassenach??
Prynhawn da, shimei..:0;

Thank you, Saesneg-:) Cymraeg names and words have a musicality about them, much like the accent of its speakers in English.

ABRYSTWYTH
EISTEDFODD
LLANWELY
CARDIFF

etc..

I recently watched a film in which the main lead actor was a Brit from London visiting a boarding school somewhere in Wales. He took the train to small, Welsh whistle-stop station. As he alighted from the compartment, he inquired with the station master approximately how far the so-and-so school was from the station. "Oh, it's a tidy walk from here I think.", the man replied. The Welsh accent of his words sounded so charming to my Yank ears-:)

Prepare to be charmed ;)
youtube.com/watch?v=axQpElAAnco
ps,the voice actor isnt Welsh but.....

Thanx, isthatu2! -:)

Apropos of the Cymraeg tongue, I glanced at a grammar of the language and it looks almost as morphologically fearsome as Polish does to a rank beginner.

yes there these dreadful things called "mutations" which are case and gender changes at the BEGINNING of the word.
So, for example, MAWR means "big" but that could mutate to FAWR.
BACH means "small" but that could be FACH.
And the place name BANGOR just might be MANGOR.
Not too hard for a Polish speaking person though I suppose..:))

....don't kid yourself, dude! Ain't NOTHIN' that mutative w polskim, except just maybe those sundry irregular verb thingies like "ciąć" (to cut) < tnę = I cut etc... Here though, there is at least some phonological justification for the switch from 'c' < 't', both sounds being produced with nearly the same pressure on the alveolar ridge.

But 'MAWR' < 'FAWR'????!! Don't see it-:) LOL

Endlessly fascinating.

Something oddly similar goes on in Turkish: Ekmek cok nefisti! = [The] bread [is] delicious [lit. "very tasty"] No articles here either-:) But in the Accusative Case, we've got final 'k-sounds' shifting/mutating to soft 'g-sounds': Ekmegi istenyorum. = I want bread.

Oh no. Honey....read some books. Welsh people are great.

The Soul Crew too? ;)

I am from Saudi Arabia and lived in cardiff for more that two years ,

Walsh people are the best people i have known in my life , they are soo friendly , kind and Beautyfull .

If we compare Walsh people with English that will be like comparing angels with satans . English people are the opposite of Walsh unfriendly , racist and arrogant .. my family love Walsh as well , they say that our days in cardiff were the best days in our life .

I do love Walsh for ever

Saleh Alghamdi

Jeddah , Saudi Arabia

Walsh? Is that the family name you are staying with? ;) Some stay with Scotts up north too, you know!? ;)

Do you generally generalise or, in general, prefer not to be general?

Scots on the other hand, tend to fall under the caricature of being eternally tough as nails (both the womenfolk as well as their men, by the way!), tight with their money, abstemious in their alcohol, compared with the Irish or the English, fiercely proud and straight as a dye, wasting little to no time with idle chatter and willing to fight tooth and claw when necessary! A dialogue below taken from a 50's film:

Englishman: Oh, good day to you sir!
Crofter: And to you. What'll your business be?
Englishman: Any chance of a job hereabouts?
Crofter: Aye, you'll find no work 'round here. Noo, if there's nothin' else,
I'll be askin' ye to be on your way! (closes door firmly)

Englishman: Terribly sorry to have troubled you, my good man!
Crofter: (snorts audibly under his breath and gives gentleman a dirty look)

lols.....you do realise that most of us "Brits" twittering away on here constantly are actually Scots dont you ? ;)


Bet you were told this by your friendly,not at all "rascist" and totally humble Welsh nationalist hosts.................
Im also guessing you didnt go out of cardif much and found the same honky bars with straw on the floor that me and a black mate found .............

The south Welsh hate the north welsh with a passion,something about the weird nasaly/lispy way they speak ........no nation is full of Angels or Devils.

..The thought had crossed my mind LOL

for me it sounds similar to English "th" like in word "thought"

not really as TH is a labio dental sound (eg tongue between the teeth) whereas LL is ......(thinking..) labio-alvolear...in other words your tongue goes behind your top teeth just like an L sound only you then blow air through.... altogether now..LLLLLLLLL

fnar


fnar fnar


OOOOooohhh, Matron.

hahahaha.....and FLING and IN and FLING and IN!!

Carry On created a damaged nation :)

or was it the product of a damaged nation? Y know, life imitating art or art reflecting life....
interestingly the vast majority of the Carry On team were Jewish...
are we off topic yet?
Apparently POlish people are very good at learning Welsh..:)

What do you think about Wales and Welsh people?
Great people who gave us Anthony Hopkins and imagery of green meadows with sheep running across them like clouds across the sky :)

Someone had to mention sheep didnt they.... ;)

I did my military training in Wales...

my memories are of sheep , non stop rain , and bloody steep hills covered in loose shale that i was lugging huge weights up and down...

as well as Richard Burton, Emlyn Williams, Welsh rare-bit, a super, f******g kick-ass soccer team and wonderful choirs!

...and not to mention the new Miss England............a Valley girl :)