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WHAT IS IT ABOUT POLISH PEOPLE THAT MAKES THEM THINK THAT UK WANTS THEM?


Barney  17 | 1672  
29 Feb 2012 /  #211
barney

Don’t ever mix my view of the British class system with your sub fascist ramblings.

they have introduced race hate crimes to keep us subdued and repressed.

These laws were necessary to keep people with myopic views like yours from bullying people. If you have something to say do so with dignity and intelligence.

As it turns out the British don’t want you, 98% of British people voted against you.

There are problems in all societies, picking on an easy target is cowardly; in the 30s it was Jews, in the 50s Irish, in the 60 and 70s Black and Asians. It’s dishonest to ignore your role in the class system

Is it any wonder there has been no solidarity since the time of the Levellers when people with views like yours have served the ruling class so well? Did the people of the NE of England have the support of the BUF on their hunger march? Of course they didn’t they were too interested in attacking Jews and other migrants in East London.

The starving people of Manchester demanding proper political representation were cut down. They were starving because of Economic policies you endorse,

If you are going to use the language of class war get your history right.

PS

Tooting Broadway station which was made famous by Che wannabe Wolfie Smith, but I doubt if many here would know of him.

He was a comedy character on TV. And you want to be taken seriously
oxon  4 | 164  
29 Feb 2012 /  #212
These laws were necessary to keep people with myopic views like yours from bullying people.

No Barney....why would people want to bully other people? You are capable of seeing what is unfolding before your eyes but your stomach is full, your body is sheltered, your bank balance is black and you are safe .Your mindset however is distorted.

'We' what ever you mean , don't serve the ruling class any more. You having attended our meetings should know that more than most. The ruling class i.e. all three major parties who are at the behest of the corporates impose the laws to keep us all subdued. YOu know this Barney, I have explained it many times to you.

The point about Wolfie was that if you asked 90% of people walking out or beside the station who he was, they wouldn't know because they were not around nor do they care who he was. Tell me Barney, do you walk into a pub and reminisce about the old times you knew with modern day foreigners from Africa and Eastern Europe? Do you get that all over glow when you recount your days as a youth watching Pink Floyd or Led Zeppelin live in Earls Court when you greet your Somalian/Nigerian/Latvian friends in your pub?

England is being replaced by foreigners before your very eyes and you just close them.

Thank you for your message and I will send the details off to you as soon as I know the dates.
Barney  17 | 1672  
29 Feb 2012 /  #213
Thank you for your message and I will send the details off to you as soon as I know the dates.

What are you talking about?

You are a very confused man, whispering threats in people's ears is cowardly and intimidating.

You have explained nothing to me, just spouted nonsense.

I was taking the pi$$ yesterday here's a clue

It doesn't have an Irish language section, Is there a branch in Andersonstown, that would be handy?

I don't think there has been or ever will be a BNP meeting in West Belfast nor is there a candidate standing.

Tell me Barney, do you walk into a pub and reminisce about the old times you knew with modern day foreigners from Africa and Eastern Europe?

Yes, many people go on atrocity tours:):):)
Wroclaw Boy  
29 Feb 2012 /  #214
I haven't got the time for all this so here is a link to three pics I've taken over the last week .

those pictures are rubbish
oxon  4 | 164  
29 Feb 2012 /  #215
That's because you haven't taken the time to understand them Wroclaw Boy. Have another look and do some of your magical 'cookling' All will unfold.

Barney ...do you have a short term memory problem/?
Barney  17 | 1672  
29 Feb 2012 /  #216
Barney ...do you have a short term memory problem/?

Are you suggesting that I have contacted you in some way because that is a lie, you really are delusional.

Son I'm an Irish republican and have no truck with fascists particularly those who support right wing death squads.
Wroclaw Boy  
29 Feb 2012 /  #217
Goldman Sachs I get that after googling.
Mersey House is some kind of legal establishment
but the guy with the bald head? there a reflection of a double decker, but i dont get that one

Heres one i took last week

BTW i spent 5 hours in central London today, it is indeed another world.
Pole in Denver  - | 3  
1 Mar 2012 /  #218
Small businesses and landlords are happy but everyone else suffers.

Ok so I found out that Im Polish a few years back and I decided I was going to grasp on to it like it was a good thing, or at least something to laugh about. But this post here.... Damn man, way to kick a dude in the balls. I have lived in the States all of my life. And we have a problem with Mexicans over here that steal our jobs. Mind you jobs that we won't do, but we don't want them here none the less. This post, seriously just made me feel like a dirty Mexican...... Thanks.
Wroclaw Boy  
1 Mar 2012 /  #219
This post, seriously just made me feel like a dirty Mexican

The Mexicans that travel to the States merely want a better life for themselves and their families, they are mostly there for the money, the same principle applies for the Polish in the UK.
Pole in Denver  - | 3  
1 Mar 2012 /  #220
I hear you, but seriously, I'm, well as for as Europeans are concerned am a redneck who doesn't really like the Mexicans, so reading this, doesn't put a smile on my face. I am slightly ashamed now because my people are no better than the ones I despise here in my country.
Ironside  50 | 12383  
1 Mar 2012 /  #221
I hear you, but seriously,

Yeah seriously stop writing bull if you are not a troll.
Pole in Denver  - | 3  
1 Mar 2012 /  #222
Ahh you must be the internet warrior on this forum. Good for you, I'm sure it makes you feel tough. Should I just troll instead of speak my real opinion? Should I instead start asking you if your country needs America to bail it out? Cause we are in good with the Chinese, we'll borrow the money and give it to the IMF for ya. Seems that's what us Americans are good at doing. Keep it up Europe, We need you to fail and revert back to the stone age so our politicians finally get the hint that you're type governing really sucks and wont work. lol
Ironside  50 | 12383  
1 Mar 2012 /  #223
Ahh you must be the internet warrior on this forum.

Not at all! I'm here long enough and I can sense trolls. Keep writing, I will know soon enough.

Good for you, I'm sure it makes you feel tough.

I'm tough not on the interned though.

Should I instead start asking you if your country needs America to bail it out?

No, just take back your F-15 and give us back those 4 billions American dollars.

Keep it up Europe,

Ah! You are one of those from a different dimension. Happy ramblings!
rozumiemnic  8 | 3875  
1 Mar 2012 /  #224
Cause we are in good with the Chinese, we'll borrow the money and give it to the IMF for ya.

oooh you lot are in for a serious shock when the Chinese start using their stash of dollars.

In answer to the OP, I think it's called arrogance. I personally know one couple with rotten teeth and no jobs (cause they can 'earn' more on the dole and don't have to pay child maintenance)

who spend their time moaning about 'dirty Pakis' and laughing about 'slitty eyes'. Still there ya go..
Ironside  50 | 12383  
1 Mar 2012 /  #225
In answer to the OP,

In answer to what ? The thread topic ?
pam  
1 Mar 2012 /  #227
completely p***d off with thread now. some of us have to work tomorrow. same old, blah,blah etc
Ironside  50 | 12383  
1 Mar 2012 /  #228
yes

The thread topic it is BS contrived in that way to insult.
What makes OP think that Poles give a damn about what other countries think (countries do not think by the way) or that they have ramification about that?

Let put it simple countries make it legal for foreigns to work, it means that those countries want Poles - its no brainier.
Some people may have something against them foreigners, but that is a different kettle of fish. To make things happen to their liking those people should win an election and then implement changes.

ause they can 'earn' more on the dole

An honest question - how much is the dole that they can earn more than working ????
oxon  4 | 164  
1 Mar 2012 /  #229
Let put it simple countries make it legal for foreigners to work, it means that those countries want Poles - its no brainier.

Countries don't make laws. It's the people leading them who do.

To make things happen to their liking those people should win an election and then implement changes.

I believe I have already said this

bnp.org.uk

Zdzislaw's classic response to the post regarding the amount of ethnic minorities in Poland

Poland has always been a multicultural society. It's highly insulting of you to downplay the centuries long presence and contributions of these minority groups as well as Poland's admirable track record of integrating them.

'Judging from this and your many other posts on this topic you really do seem hell bent on wanting to change completely the current racial and ethnic makeup of Poland just to satisfy your own personal whimsy - or more to the point your own obvious bias and prejudices. You consistently fail to provide a logical justification as to what the beneficial outcome would be for Poland itself by increasing its minority population when it already has nearly 40,000,000 citizens.

You'll have to agree that there are many nations on Earth that have racially homogenous populations. Especially so in Africa where the entire continent has an absolute black majority.

Ah, I can hear you protest in dismay: "But this is a forum about "Poland" not Africa!"

No problem.

Rather than insisting Poland needs to change by having more inward migration of non-white Europeans all you need to do instead is start promoting Polish migration to places like Nigeria, Kenya, Zimbabwe and South Africa. All of these countries and dozens more have great weather, abundant natural resources, and vast swathes of land as far as the eye can see to sustain millions of Poles moving in. Plenty of opportunities for Poles to business with China and other countries from there too.

There is simply no denying that every single African country is in dire need of having their demographics changed permanently. Africa is ripe for change!
ladykangaroo  - | 165  
1 Mar 2012 /  #230
start promoting Polish migration to places like Nigeria, Kenya, Zimbabwe and South Africa

...and how did it work for Britain, remind me?
rozumiemnic  8 | 3875  
1 Mar 2012 /  #231
An honest question - how much is the dole that they can earn more than working ????

the actual 'dole' is not that much, i think about £65 a week for a single person, but if you live in a high rent area like London, the rent being covered by the parallel 'housing benefit' is a big plus, and you don't have to pay council tax either. Then of course it can all be topped up with casual cash in hand jobs. Add it all up and it's equivalent to a normal salary.

'The thread topic it is BS contrived in that way to insult' sorry Ironside and Pam, I should not have risen to it, what I posted was very personal and to do with various BS that is going on with me at the moment. I usually try not to cause offence.
oxon  4 | 164  
1 Mar 2012 /  #232
and how did it work for Britain, remind me?

Lady K....Turned it into a huge dustbin for Poles to come here, claim welfare, child/housing benefit, steal the jobs, set up a 'business selling the Big Issue for a year so that they could claim they were self employed and start to claim dole which they were then entitled to do according to our f******d up laws
Avalon  4 | 1063  
1 Mar 2012 /  #233
child/housing benefit

This is a silly example to use. Check your facts, the entitlement to child benefit was established by the EU which stated that Europeans travelling to another member state to work are entitled to the same benefits as those workers of the host country. In all fairness, Labour tried to get away with paying this but as per usual, they did not read the treaty before they signed it so its now costing the UK about 50 million a year. This is peanuts when you compare it to foreign aid.

I only realised today that over the past 20 years we have given Argentina 20 million pounds and are "still" liable to give them another 7 million. If another war breaks out in the Falklands, we will have paid for Argentina to re-arm.
oxon  4 | 164  
1 Mar 2012 /  #234
Check your facts, the entitlement to child benefit was established by the EU which stated that Europeans travelling to another member state to work are entitled to the same benefits as those workers of the host country

'Same' being the operative word. They are not the same.... a Briton in Poland will not be entitled to the SAME amount of welfare as a Pole in the UK. Everything that you get paid in Poland is a lot LESS than what a Pole gets paid in Britain.

I know what's coming next re cost of living.

And.....I wonder how many Britons there are in Poland claiming child benefit for children who have never ventured out the UK compared to Poles who are claiming benefits for their children who have never left Poland? Do you know avalon?
ladykangaroo  - | 165  
1 Mar 2012 /  #235
for Poles

For Poles? No, not really.
After WWII your country granted nationality and unlimited right to live and work in Britian to hundreds of millions Africans.
Don't like the Somalians and Nigerians in city centres? Well, I would say implementing English in their homelands or making them part of British Commonwealth can hardly be called a deterrent. Now you have a million people born in India / Pakistan, another million born in Africa, close to 700,000 from former colonies in Asia (and that does not even include the second or third generation immigrants, born on British soil).

So, let me repeat my question:
how did the interest in Africa, land "ripe for change", work for Britain?

Briton in Poland will not be entitled to the SAME amount of welfare as a Pole in the UK

He "will be entitled" (oh, how I hate this phrase) to the SAME amount as Pole in Poland.
Pole in the UK will be entitled to the same amount as Briton in the UK.
oxon  4 | 164  
1 Mar 2012 /  #236
Don't like the Somalians and Nigerians in city centres? Well, I would say implementing English in their homelands or making them part of British Commonwealth can hardly be called a deterrent.

Somalia part of the commonwealth then Kangaroo? Yes , just as the sun revolves around our flat earth I have to agree . Be gone with your ignorance now woman and leave this debate for those with a modicum of intelligence.

And...since you have displayed an inordinate amount of ignorance I will explain myself. What I meant are the differences n the actual amount people receive in child/welfare in each country regardless of what nationality they are.
ladykangaroo  - | 165  
1 Mar 2012 /  #237
Have you noticed the little word "OR"?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logical_disjunction

What I meant are the differences n the actual amount people receive

I know. But this only proves your own ignorance, as benefits are paid in amounts set out by the country of employment / residence, not origin.
JonnyM  11 | 2607  
1 Mar 2012 /  #238
Somalia part of the commonwealth then Kangaroo? Yes , just as the sun revolves around our flat earth I have to agree

I'm sure you'll agree that British Somaliland was part of the Empire.

By the way, you haven't answered the question in the other thread.
oxon  4 | 164  
1 Mar 2012 /  #239
'm sure you'll agree that British Somaliland was part of the Empire.

Oh wiki wik, wi.w.....j,jo,jon,jonn,jonny see how one blends into the other through indoctrination and uninformed intellect. You become it!!

Let me illustrate my point Payouts per child for child welfare in Poland = £3:62pm per chlld . Same child benefit in UK = £3,600.62 pm . Slight exaggeration on both parts as I don't actually know the exact amounts. Can someone enlighten me please.
JonnyM  11 | 2607  
1 Mar 2012 /  #240
wiki

??

see how one blends into the other through indoctrination and uninformed intellect. You become it!!

This doesn't actually make any sense at all.

And by the way, you still haven't answered the question: are you a BNP member or not?

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