Oxford Polish bride 'heartbroken' over arrest - accusations of sham marriage

The best business was made between russian and bulgarian young brides and old greek pensioners.In 2-5 years the old guys died and the brides got their pensions lifetime.But for sure some old farts died happy.

And now it is the same.The old guy has a woman from eastern Europe to take care of him and then he gives her 50 euro tip to see her breasts another 100 euro to get some caressing,very sly old men,their wives always try to hire the ugliest and oldest women for the grandpa.

No, completely wrong. Prostitutes are not business-minded, they do their "jobs" because of desperation, usually to fuel drug addictions, and there is often an organization at work that is actively exploiting them. Men who simply must **** something can just go on the pull, it's not that difficult.

And no, these Slavic brides are not doing anywhere near the same thing. At no point is it mentioned, indicated or hinted at that they engage in sexual relations with their artificial husbands. In fact it's a common occurance in these marriages that the husband and bride see very little of eachother and only do the absolute minimum to make their marriage look genuine. All they're actually doing is signing a contract and going through a ceremony. Easy money, I can't blame them for doing it. It's the system that's broken, and anyone is going to exploit it given the motivation.

Of course. You seem to forget that half of the prostitutes, if not the biggest group are doing it simply for the money, to get a better lifestyle. There are drug addicts among them, but most actually do it because the either like sex, want a better life or have it as a main income.

Did you miss the part where I exactly say the same? Or are you just disagreeing with me for the sake of disagreeing with me? And the reference to protitutes was a metaphorical one. The sexual part doesn't have to come into play. They sell sth you cannot buy in stores, offices and normally cannot be bought at all. So in that sense they are comparable to prostitutes, yes.

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M-G (haec hactenus)

So for something to be comparable to prostitution it only has to be an unorthodox service? So selling marijuana is comparable to being paid to have someones dick jammed repeatedly in your vagina, mouth or anus, having them release semen inside your body at the risk of pregnancy and contracting diseases, and then using the money "earned" to buy cocaine and snort yourself into a coma? Yeah, I see the parallels.


That's one way of putting it. A more accurate portrayal is that their lifestyle is so bad already that prostitution can't possibly make it any worse.


??? That sounds more like escorts. I have never met or heard of a prostitute who was totally clear and OK with her lifestyle. Drugs are involved most of the time.

I think you have a bit of distorted view on prostitution as it is. There are plenty of female students who act like prostitutes in their free time in order to finance either their studies or to be able to afford that big car they want. And face it, for a woman this is the easiest way of making money. Some do it because they simply like sex and make out of their hobby their work, so to say.


In Amsterdam's Red Light District, which is about the biggest and most famous red light district in the world, prostitutes who use drugs are not even allowed. Drugs prostitution you find mostly in the darker sides of town. And all the prostitutes in the Red Light District pay taxes.


No, that's your interpretation of it. Probably infused with religious moral ethics.


You haven't understood what I was saying, so far is clear now. I will explain once again: I said services that cannot be bought in shops, offices or factories. Services or acts that normally cannot be bought at all. Selling maryjane already implies that it can be bought or sold quite normally. There is a big group of heroine-hookers as we call them, and those are what you're referring to, but the majority of the prostitutes are, at least in NL, otherwise normal girls who just want a bigger car, jewelry, finance their studies or simply like sex. I knw it's hard to comprehend, but it's the modern world.


Let's above all not forget that escort girls are also prostitutes.

Edit: oh and besides the heroin-hookers ALL prostitutes use condoms, the pill and are being checked by doctors bi-weekly in NL.

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M-G (haec hactenus)

Maybe that's a Netherlands thing, but it does not happen here, nor in many other places.


No, that's how it is in reality. I have several family members in the Police who deal with prostitutes on a daily basis, and prostitution hot-spots are not hard to come across, nor is it difficult to ascertain the personal habits of such prostitutes. They don't look like sharp businesswomen to me.

And you know why it doesn't happen where you are? First of all because those girls are probably not as open about it as the Dutch girls generally are and secondly because most other countries have a very hypocrit view and policy towards sex, females that like sex or females that have sex because they want some extra money. But believe you me, they are also where you live and in fact in most places on Earth. Because you don't hear from them, doesn't mean they're not there. They could name themselves a massage parlour, a villa or whatever. The purpose is all the same. You never seen those notes hanging in phone booths? In toilets in pubs and so on? Those small adverts in the newspapers? Guess what these girls offer.


Maybe in your neck of the woods and heroin-hookers are usually very desperate yes, but all I wanted to point out is that most prostitutes are not drug-infested. But perhaps you don't notice them that much as they generally don't cause that much trouble as heroin-hookers do.

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M-G (these girls are everywhere, even in places where they're officially not, like here in Ireland)

There are many women who want to work as prostitutes.Let's see work cleaning houses=6 euro per hour,taking care of elderly 900 euro per month for whole day work,work in ass bar=100 euro per night,work as a prostitute=50 euro per hour.So a girl can make 6000 euro per month easily working as a prostitute while as a cleaner she makes 8 times less.

Russian and ukrainian women are very aware of this reality and give up only in case of a rich husband who can guarantee the 6000 euro per month.

Have read about high end prostitution in "Superfreakonomics"

It is actually very interesting read - how the market for such "services" evolved (book talks about US)

In Poland it is also nothing new:
wprost.pl/ar/57017/Seksualna-eskorta/
call-girls.pl


I doubt gaming the system with fake marriage is really that big problem.
The fact is you can't do it too frequently.

In Poland,CR it is quite common.Some polish girls asked me recently to become their pimp.They would bring some more polish too in case I agreed.Of course I freaked out with the idea.Maybe they told this as a joke but they told that lots of albanian and some polish men pimp their women.

In Ukraine dozens of thousands of women are interested to come to Greece or other european countries and work as escorts.They ask directly how they can come but the embassy gives visas only to women older than 45 years old who pose no danger.

We 've had no doubt who you really are, daddyo. LOL

Talkin' bout sum smooooth mova...

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M-G (is the novel nearly done, Southern? grin)

Yawn - not even close.


Ive seen some of your posts, the words "pots and kettles" springs to mind.


Keep dreaming, I come on here about 3 times a week..


That's slightly flawed, Im certainly not an idiot, but you most certainly are a paki and an idiot.

I will say it again, these women who marry men for money are filth.


If "here" is England then you are talking through your hat! We dont just have scabby prostitutes on the back streets, there are plenty of "dial a date" numbers which offer high end escorts..

Being a SouthMancJap, I have to fully agree. I've had enough crap thrown at me in Poland. England is the best place for non-Whites in Europe.

Does that mean you're coming back to Manchester?

Good point, southern. Entrenching tolerant attitudes takes time and Britain has now evolved into a largely tolerant society.

Why would a Polish bride be heartbroken when she clearly should have known what constitutes a good marriage? The abundance of procedural improprieties should have given her a clear sign. She is from a procedural country so she really should have been on top of it.

Then you are ignorant of history, because it's only very recently (in historical terms) that women gained the rights to working, property, inheritance and voting. Up until about a hundred and so years ago, women had none of these things, and marrying into status and money was not only the norm, but also highly sought after. Much, much more sought after than marrying for love, which was largely just a fantasy. And the country was much more religious back then too. So much for your sanctity of marriage. Women still do that today as well, it's just somewhat more subtle (and I use the term loosely). It's a fact that men with money and posessions that show off their status become unrealistically more attractive, just as women with a figure that's ideal for carrying babies are more attractive.

Not a fan of eastern Europeans.

When I read this forum, I often wonder why I'm not still a virgin who has never had a girlfriend, because there's no way I can match up to these guys who earn enough to "maintain" a Polish woman (or indeed any other woman) at 400 Euro a month, plus everything else, like an expensive car which is "fit to carry a Polish woman in", etc.

But then I pinch myself, and realise that the real world isn't quite as fake as southern's world is, and I've actually done quite well with the ladies over the years. And no-one's ever asked me to pimp them either :p :D

You can imagine the italian suckers who pay thousands per month for simple women.But really this is the price of Polki.Of course you can have for free but you have to accept some closer commitment.

Oh, that explains it - because I actually have relationships with women (unlike southern) I get more for my money (which wasn't anywhere near 400 Euro a month, lol).

If you live together all the time you can have for free.But if I were in Poland I would get hundreds.Of course the environment would affect me and after a while I would become very slavicised and probably marry some Polka.

Thread attached on merging:
Oh, For God's Sake! , Do Polish people have any morals?

sorry if i m late but a 19-year-old Polish woman and her 30-year-old Indian husband-to-be were nicked after arriving at a register office

The arrests follow a major crackdown across the UK into sham marriages after the number of dodgy weddings rocketed by more than 50 per cent in 12 months.

An increasing number of EU citizens are marrying non-EU foreigners in a bid for them to gain visa’s so they can have the same rights as British nationals

For God's Sake a 19 years old polack girl married to a PAKI of 30 years old???

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It's an easy way to make quite a lot of money.

Hm quite depressing. It will end up in a divorce or cheating. Not so much the ethnicity but the major age difference.

Dear espana . I think theres something wrong with you , you seem to be desperate to show off all the negative news about Poles especialy on this forum . If you have problem with us then keep it for yourself , eat your fakin spannish tapas and stfu ...

We typically take our morals with a lot of ketchup.

Now this is amusing, one of our most racist posters talking about morals.
We live in strange time!!!

wroclaw you spoiled my fun :(

Merged thread:
Increase of sham marriages in the UK-thousands involve polish women

We see here why the polish authorities will never allow the release of statistics about the number of polish women marrying third worldlers abroad.

bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-12804182

people.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/2007/04/15/here-come-the-fake-polish-brides-93463-18906983/