Oxford Polish bride 'heartbroken' over arrest - accusations of sham marriage

The western ones are industrialized and want money. So are some of the eastern ones. It's all about the money.

I think the Oxford registry office story about the 19 year old is separate from the other story. But maybe they are linked in some way? Not that it matters much since the thread has already moved on. ;)

If getting married made bugger all difference to a person's legal right to stay in the UK, we'd soon see how many of these idiots can't live without each other.

independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/lithuanian-woman-given-pound2000-moments-before-sham-marriage-2002128.html

She said she had accompanied Mr Ojo and his associate to the store in Hastings, East Sussex, but walked behind them as she felt "ashamed" at what she was taking part in.

She said she bought a car with the £2,000 but denied claims she deliberately ensnared Mr Ojo after saying she wanted to marry "a rich African man".

Yep, really ashamed by the sounds of things :(

£2K!!! ...She could have saved that up in a few months, even working a low paid job!


Of course we do - But we go to work, we dont marry 3rd world immigrants that don't belong here!


The mere fact she was about to get married there speaks volumes, or it does to me.

What is all the fuss about???You Brits are so multi-culti friendly and not racist at all(unlike we Poles).You should be happy you have one culture enricher more.It seems to be a win-win situation for everybody.Poor Polish girl got some little money,Uk got one enricher more and the dude will get his papers.Those who don't like it must be some kind of racists.They should shut up and enjoy multiculturalism.

I hope Poland enjoys the multiculturalism thats heading there way :D

"I wan marid lovi Polis gril becoz I lik Polis cultr and how can I styd thir an got job"

I want to know what happens if you knit yogurt!!!! I bet it neither tastes nor smells good. Terrible washing quality of the finished item too, I spose...

With 2000 euro you can buy the whole family.Anyway.This is the cost of a Polka for a whole year.I suppose it is more expensive if you don't posess balkan charm.

What utter rubbish !

How do we gain by allowing people to essentially con their way into the country ? What's the guy getting married for a passport actually going to give us that's of benefit ?

Lol dude, you have never worked. With 2000 euro I could buy your family.

And sell it to some Turk :P

I don't know how it is measured which marriages are fake and which ones are genuine. I wasn't aware there were legal limits on marriage at all. It's a religious ceremony and has no place in being legally recognised. The system is open to abuse and abused it shall be, no point blaming people for not respecting the "sanctity" of marriage.

I'm amazed that people have the arrogance to judge the Polka/Polki who did this. As far as getting money is concerned, this isn't that extreme. If you're naive enough to think that anything except money matters to most people, then you need to grow up.


Sorry, the rest of the world doesn't sit in your priveleged shoes, princess. You're seriously out of touch with the reality of things if you think upwards of a a few thousand can be saved up within a few months.

Right, marriage in western societies is a sham. As to the divorce rate of 50%, it is so high because women initiate 75% of all divorces. The major reasons being, women get to keep the kids and few men do so men don't want divorces. Also, women can collect money in forms of alimony, child support and of course the state also enables them with various forms of aid. If men received fair treatment in courts than you'd see some changes to this.

The gazon is responsible for everything.

The girl married this guy for money and people do different sorts of things for money.
I totally believe and understand that it's wrong but we just don't know why these people do it and why they need money. There is something called poverty in this world and people who have health wealth and happiness must not be the ones to raise fingers or blame these poor people of wrong doings.

If we think we won't marry someone for money is because we don't need to and we have everything but you never know what financial problems they have.

I think marrying someone for money is far better than becoming a prostitute ??? I am absolutely not justifying the sham marriage but we are not in their shoes so we don't know what makes them do this ???

It's easy to just sit and write rubbish in these forums but how many of us actually know people who don't even have money for food clothes school etc etc

who doesn't want to have a better life a car a house nice clothes, who doesn't want to raise their children in a proper manner give them everything what they want ????

In short the secret behind everything is money and although all these means of earning money is illegitimate and wrong but trust me we can't have those feelings of being poor.

I don't think anyone on this earth who has everything in his/her life will do any wrong doing such as this until or unless you dong have a penny to buy food.

Anyway again I will say this is wrong but trust me amathyst said they don't marry third world immigrants for money but what about English prostitutes who have sex with Africans, Asians, Indians etc etc for money ???

They are all English in every town of Britian. Isn't that even worst than marrying someone for money.
Well truthfully again I will say wrong is wrong but who are we to judge anyone when there are systems in place to deal with such issues.

UK border agency caught it and it's good end of story. Just wish them good luck for the next operation that's all.
By the way I am from USA but I have nothing against anyone :)

You appear to be very thick. You can't even spell your own name.

Yes,by bringing all this scam to Poland there will be serious unrest.Poland lacks the strength of germanic society towards these indivinduals.

And this from someone with a name like "Skrymcz"! Which means what, exactly? Oh, I know; it obviously means "you're too dumb to realise that 'Amathyst' may have been spelled like that deliberately" - and it's not even her "name" anyway :)


It's not often I agree with you, but despite all the claims of how "racist" and "intolerant" British people are, the UK is actually one of the most tolerant nations in the world, and that is a fact. What that says about "tolerance" in general is another matter, though.

Whereas Poles are far from tolerant of people they do not like.

Before the PC police decide to lay into me for saying this, this is an opinion, not something I'm hoping for - capiche?

Then you should never get married if you cant distinguist between them.


Tell that to my brothers who have been married for 21 and 17 years respectively! Just because you couldnt manage to keep hold of a woman doesnt mean other men cant!


Sweetie, Im seriously in touch with reality...and £2K isnt a great deal of money in this day and age! If you think I have a "princess" complex then Im glad I dont know you because you really couldn't afford my company if you're so "cheap".


I DONT (capitals to make it clear), at least a prostitue is honest about what she does! These wh*res sell themselves and lie to many people!


The spelling was intentional..you pr*ck! Its a forum and someone had amethyst!


:D


I was out with a friend yesterday - he reckons gay men are sick and need help! "what's that all about"


They are on drugs and desparate, why else would they have sex with such scum!! They're not entering to a "holy" sancity of marriage with these animals! You seem not to know the difference, maybe because you dont place the same value on marriage!

My recent experience of recent Polish immigrants suggests that anyone who "isn't like us Poles" must be gay - including me!

Well, from what I've gathered from their insults towards so-called "gays" (as defined by boneheaded, smelly, badly-dressed, hard-drinking and chain-smoking uneducated Polish idiots), having a bath every day, not smelling of tobacco and Tyskie, and actually making an effort to dress in non-market clothes makes men into a battyboy - in which case, I must be! haha ;)

Except I'm not, of course. Gay or homophobic, that is. And these pricks still can't understand why many of their women are sick of them. Who wants to go out with a twat who stinks and can't even make an effort to put some decent clothes on, because "that's what all these gay English do"? f*** 'em!

Yet the funniest thing is: most of these pricks look more like someone who would hang around Canal Street than I ever will! :D

But you know how it is - the biggest homophobes are usually hiding a little "secret", aren't they ;)

Marrying someone for money makes you a prostitute - and this rose doesn't smell as sweet.


Ah yes, personal attacks yet again. I'm not concerned with anecdotal examples but by the overall numbers and the reasons for them. Perhaps you should try to expand your narrow minded viewpoints. Here is an example (not mine);

A hypothetical question for the women:

Suppose you’re in love with a man and the two of you are considering marriage. As you’re getting close to committing, he tells you that he’d like you to sign a pre-nuptial agreement. The agreement states:

1. If the marriage results in children, he will stay home to care for them or take a lesser career move to be more free to care for them.

2. You(the wife) will be primarily financially responsible for the support of the family — even if he’s working.

3. If the marriage ends in divorce, he will retain custody of the children. You may see them four days per month.

4. You will pay him (at least) 40% of your take home pay every month if the marriage results in divorce. This amount will be set as a dollar amount and will remain in effect regardless of any change in your personal financial circumstances.

Would you sign that, or would you judge that to be a bad deal? Because basically, ALL men in the Western world are signing that pre-nup when they get married.

To the male readers here: you identify with the above, but my friend Patrick put it simply but truthfully.

oh yes when it comes on you than you have an excuse and an answer to everything.
By the way I wasn't talking about the prostitutes who sell their souls for drugs and the ones on the road.
Stupid Amathyst, don't you know there are escorts, licensed adultery and or prostitutes who are not drug addicted but properly come from an educated background ??

Their percentage is far more higher than the drug addicted ones. Maybe now you will say NO there is nothing like that in England.

Well, you lazy bum there is a real world outside these forums so go and research before spreading an illeterate drivel of real ****.

I can't believe you said becoming a prostitute is better than marrying someone for money. Well in real I think you don't even know yourself than. In an earlier thread I read you saying that you can't put a price on marriage.

So it means you can put a price on your soul, body, spirit and that true feeling which is far more meaningful and expensive than a piece of paper.

I know the value of marriage and I come from a very humble educated and polite family but I also truly understand people who are poor just merely because they are poor and they want to have a better life like you have and like most of us here have and for them £2k means a lot.

I had written a lot in my previous thread but perhaps you don't have an answer to even 90% of that ?????
You are a woman but trust me you are for some god damn reason so frustrated either in bed or someone just ditched you big time so forums are the right place for you. GOOD LUCK

and one more thing just like you said prostitutes are honest
these girls are far more honest because they don't sleep with somebody and sell their souls otherwise they could earn much more than £2k but maybe all the sluts have the mindset like you have who would sleep with thirld worlders for 100 bucks.

Here's another way women can marry more than once for the money, money, money...

the-spearhead.com/2010/06/19/another-woman-caught-shaking-down-soldiers/

Well, I dont understand anyone that can sell themselves...Its disgusting...Money isnt everything.


These women are worse - you didnt get my point, there's nothing wrong with prostitutes, where ever they are! They earn an honest living.


Stupid paki, dont you know these girls offer you a new life my country for £2K? Because you cant wait to get out of your shithole!


Then you know nothing about the sanctity of marriage within the Catholic church! Marriage is sacred..not something to be bought and sold...Its once in a life time. You're a paki so you dont see it like I do, your religion is very different and doesnt see it as special - you can marry more than one person and can divorce a woman when you like...Catholics are different, marriage is sacred.


Frustrated that illegal immigrants are coming into my country and draining the system...Nothing to do with my personal life.... which is almost perfect..


LOL.... said the paki! Did you come here looking for a wife? Oh, its spelt illiterate by the way you stupid paki! You really should know, since 90% of your countrymen are!

Sad story, but I don't feel sorry for her. I understand that she is poor, desperate and not very attractive, but how how how how how how how in the bloody hell could she marry a paki????

You attributed this quote to me - it isn't mine.

Would you sign that 4-part contract noted in post 81?

look at your narrow mind ... You think I don't know the spellings ???
Anyway I am using my iPhone in order to post a reply to your comments but can't be bothered anymore.

YOU WON I LOST alright NOW go and have a party :D

You're simply retarded, I find it amazing you can even switch on a computer. You just don't have any real life experience whatsoever, nobody can be this naive.


You're an unemployed early-to-mid-20's child who either lives with her parents, or some other family. In the event that you do have a partner, then you live with them and offer very little in the way of financial contribution aside from your regular housewife duties. You may think you're all ambiguous, but no, you're pretty easy to read. Nobody is as bitter, nor as stupid, as you are and describes their personal life as "perfect"... unless the phrase "ignorance is bliss" holds especially true meaning for you. In any case, nobody here is fooled by some foul-mouthed kura domowa whose parents/partner allows her too much time on the internet and not enough time outside participating in things that would teach her about the world, let alone the country, in which she lives.

Incredibly well said @ Matowy

I also wonder what kind of perfect life Amathyst has when she spends almost every hour on these forums apart from when and if she sleeps.

I salute your partner or parents. Highly likely your partner who has technique, temperament and talent to leave you busy with these forums and he certainly enjoys his life :)

what a perfect ideal life you are spending on these forums getting insulted by 50% of the members or maybe more.

you Idiot ! (said the paki) ... :D

Marriage is neither holy nor sacred. It's simply a civil contract.

Didn't you know that in fact, cats rule the world but let us believe we do? :)

Anyhow, it's not a new phenomena. In the years immediately after the fall of the Iron Curtain there were plenty of ppl in NL and elsewhere who bought a marriage, the so-called Polish- and Russian brides. There were even angencies to arrange for those "true-love" marriages. Single and rich old farmers from the North of NL paid about 10.000 guilders (app. 4500-5000 Euros) to get married to a Polish or Russian girl not even half their age. It was disgusting. Of course the only purpose of these marriages was for the girls to get residency in NL as one documentary showed on Dutch TV: they followed one of them guys who bought a Polish bride and saw her only twice in total. After they were married she was the entire time with her family and after 2 years, the legal period you have to be married to a Dutch in order to become a Dutch citizen back then, she of course filed for a divorce. It was so obvious.

Other way around happened also: there were agencies offering Dutch men about the same amount if they would marry a Polish or Russian girl. I have one vague acquaintance who did this. He saw the girl only once in real life. He received the money and after 2 years they got a divorce.

In order to prevent such practices Dutch lawmakers then changed the law so that in case of marriages between a Dutch and 3rd Worlder or Eastern European (before the EU) you know have to be together for at least 5 years (on the same address, which will be checked), you have to report bi-weekly (could be monthly, not sure about that) to some office and if you fail to do so, the bride or groom will get no citizenship.

So, it's nothing new. I'm actually surprised they still do this after twenty years.


I tend to agree partly with Shelley. If there were no prostitutes, there would've been a lot more rapes. Some men have such sexual urges that they have to be fulfilled and I think it's a good idea that they lay down some money and have them ridden, instead of raping an innocent woman in order to do the same. What these Polish- and Russian brides do is to a certain extend comparable to what prostitutes do. They do it only to get better and they satisfy a need in exchange for money.

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M-G (sick)