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How might Britain`s withdrawal from EU affect Poles there and here?


Mister H  11 | 761  
25 Jun 2016 /  #391
In your racist view of the world, maybe.It's not over yet.

It's not over yet? What is that mean to mean?

The referendum has happened and it's now the job of the government to act on the result as they agreed to do when it was called. All this crap about wanting another one, London wanting to remain part of the EU and all that is all just sour grapes.

'Remain' lost and that is it!
Bieganski  17 | 888  
25 Jun 2016 /  #392
The accusations flying that it was the old and uneducated who were the ones who voted to leave the EU is a classic leftist elitist smear used when things don't go their way.

Did Millennials establish the EU? Are they the ones running it today? No.

The results of the referendum are clear and given the severely bad weather on the day it very evident that all age groups were determined to go out and express their convictions at the ballot box.

Thanks to leftist media bias most reports and images are distorted to propagate a myth that only the young and educated wanted to remain.

However, some information is available out there to show the contrary. Take for instance this passionate and articulate viewpoint expressed by a young English student from London on the need to leave the EU:

youtube.com/watch?v=bz5EOYjTLIo

And these smiling, cheerful photos (including one of a well known middle aged celebrity Brexit supporter) leave no doubt that it wasn't just OAPs who wanted out:




Dougpol1  29 | 2497  
25 Jun 2016 /  #393
The referendum has happened and it's now the job of the government to act on the result as they agreed to do when it was called.

Of course. But do you believe for one minute that the Scots will accept this? So it's not the end of the story, is it? And who does the tax revenues from oil belong to?
dolnoslask  5 | 2805  
25 Jun 2016 /  #394
IT is also interesting that the telegraph has and article on the top twenty places for young people to emigrate to, guess what Warsaw is firts on the list , bit out oft date tho 2012.

telegraph.co.uk/finance/property/pictures/9087305/Top-twenty-places-to-emigrate-for-young-people.html
Chemikiem  
25 Jun 2016 /  #395
I think its highly probable that the UK will join the EEA, with higher fees, freedom of movement and complete lack of democracy.

This is the way I can see it going, back to square one but with no voting rights, and yes, the outers will be fuming.

In the meantime, the UK is going to put through the mill.
Szalawa  2 | 239  
25 Jun 2016 /  #396
After all the referendum was about leaving the EU, not what we do afterwards ..like rejoin..

You want a revolution or civil war? you understand there will be reprecautions for doing something like that.
GLostEmail  
25 Jun 2016 /  #397
The old and uneducated voted Out.

Old people also:
Been there -done that

Were the people talked into voting into Eu and have waited 30 years for the promises of better life to trickle down to them....and it never did. I remember the table talk in 70s how UK dragged its feet some.

Were educated the stable way with good base and then critical thinking in higher learning. No multi-culti vs assimilation of of citizens, no victimhood vs accountability, no SJW BS vs true Rights Activism

Working class does not equal low IQ regardless of the education they may have had to stop in order to make a living for families. Granted what do I know? I quit engineering 3 credits short of my degree to take care of my grandmother, mother and younger sister.

Are the MOST aware EXACTLY what war was like as well as FREEDOM

Most current educators were never in a War much less their crying , "triggered" safe space students.

As much as the younger generation would simply LOVE for a Logan's Run brave new world central state to make mandatory "volunteering" of people over a certain age that thwart them

(.. prolly 60 is current consensus, but then 50-40 -30) to allow assisted suicide, or maybe just become soylent green, we old fogies 'vote no thanks'.
dolnoslask  5 | 2805  
25 Jun 2016 /  #398
" Eu and have waited 30 years for the promises of better life to trickle down to them."

Well it was he common market , sadly it grew into the political federal state that you see today.

The real truth is that the working people in the UK never reaped the benefits of what should have been , the rich businessmen and the career politicians did very well out of it.

All I can say is look at the UK minimum wage and see what life that affords you, What has the EU done to help those on the lowest rung to enable them to improve the quality of their lives overall.

'No more Polish vermin': Police investigating after laminated cards reading 'leave the EU go home scum' are posted through front doors

Read more:
dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3659842/No-Polish-vermin-Police-investigating-laminated-cards-reading-leave-EU-home-scum-posted-doors.html#ixzz4CbqxvF6Z

Sadly what I was afraid of appears to have become reality, Vote out has become a green card for the racists to attack.

My life in the UK, was blighted at times, I was a white wog Nazi salutes , I could go on and on .

The EU primary purpose was to promote unity, peace and co operation between nations , sadly banksters and politicians destroyed that dream.

One gutted Dolno, Not often you will hear me say that.
GLostEmail  
25 Jun 2016 /  #399
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"Leave the EU" who? Poland? this is post Brexit.

If they are a Polish target ..... they are being told? vote Poland to leave EU? So they are no longer scum? Poland in EU not UK affair anymore.

The resident is to vote leave the EU? after.... um the vote is already over? Have no more those pesky nasty Polish if the EU is left? but it was left already?

I wonder what the native language of the creeper is? I know I'm just 'Murican' but that card makes no sense in English no matter how insulting and hostile
dolnoslask  5 | 2805  
25 Jun 2016 /  #400
BrExit efekt - są już pierwsze szykany kierowane w stronę Polaków!

BrExit effect - The first shot directed toward the Poles!

naszestrony.co.uk/uk/wielka-brytania/7560-brexit-efekt-sa-juz-pierwsze-szykany-kierowane-w-strone-polakow.html#Mods
I hope

Mods I have posted this polish link to help clarify article above , hopefully to remove any ambiguity for PF Polish members that would struggle with the Daily mail Title.
gregy741  5 | 1226  
26 Jun 2016 /  #401
The first shot directed toward the Poles!

wait until they find out that brexiters cant remove polish immigrants from uk and they wont be able to secure non- free movement agreement with EU.

they will be mad.all this for nothing
ender  5 | 394  
26 Jun 2016 /  #402
How can all of you lost skills of posting correct web page link or image or youtube.
dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3659842/No-Polish-vermin-Police-investigating-laminated-cards-reading-leave-EU-home-scum-posted-doors.html?offset=0&max=100&reply=131237208&jumpTo=comment-131237208#comment-131237208

polish vermin
peterweg  37 | 2305  
26 Jun 2016 /  #403
You want a revolution or civil war? you understand there will be reprecautions for doing something like that.

No there won't be. The referendum was about leaving the EU, nothing more, nothing less.

ANYTHING any politician or individual said about it was un-enforceable and irrelevant, because you can legally lie in politics and neither side was an elected government or political party. They cannot be held to it.

So, if people decide that the referendum was about stopping free movement, trade deals with India or a protest vote against the government then they are sadly mistaken.

it was the old and uneducated who were the ones who voted to leave the EU is a classic leftist elitist smear used when things don't go their way.

Leftist? the Leader of the Left is a Euro-sceptic and most of his supporters voted Out.

Elitist? over 48% voted in and every study indicates that they are educated and employed.
landofthunder  
26 Jun 2016 /  #404
The EU is a (((Corporation))). It was set up for (((Banksters))). (((Soros))) and his (((tribe))) are actors in this Rothschild (((show))). "Brexit" is a choreographed dance and the (((Producers))) have no intention of being out of control. All the West (((MSM))) is carefully structured to give the common cretins the impression that they are free to choose and vote. All of you Ex-pats can tick your choice, but the vote counters obey their (((masters))). There is no Brexit, just a lot of song and dance about what might/could/ should happen. The House ALWAYS wins. The cards, dice, wheel, table and chips belong to the (((owners))). As long as the peasants depend upon the (((money lenders))), the House ALWAYS wins.

The only way to break the (((Bank))) is for a nation to stop using money lenders for one 24 hour period. The system will collapse. Is this possible? Is it possible to herd cats?

The other way is a 'Peaceful Revolution'. Non co-operation with the PTB, and sabotage on a small, continuous scale. Is this possible? Yes. Will this happen? Will a leader be found whom the people admire?
peterweg  37 | 2305  
26 Jun 2016 /  #405
The reason people voted out

independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-salford-vote-european-union-latest-updates-polls-a7103521.html
Chemikiem  
26 Jun 2016 /  #406
Sadly what I was afraid of appears to have become reality, Vote out has become a green card for the racists to attack.

I honestly didn't expect this, and I hope the police throw the book at them if they are caught.
You have to remember though Dolno that it is only a tiny minority that are like this, most decent people wouldn't dream of doing this type of thing. Sadly there are nationalist twats in many countries.

wait until they find out that brexiters cant remove polish immigrants from uk and they wont be able to secure non- free movement agreement with EU.

This article sums up some of it :-

theguardian.com/politics/2016/jun/25/leave-campaign-rows-back-key-pledges-immigration-nhs-spending

The 'leavers' are in for a huge shock I think when it finally dawns on them that they have been lied to.
Politicians are not exactly renowned for being trustworthy, and frankly I'm amazed that people were taken in by Farage, Boris and Gove.
Oh well, it's done now.
Maybe the reason that Boris and Gove didn't look exactly over the moon when the results were announced was because Cameron didn't invoke Article 50. Whoever gets to be Prime Minister will have to do that, so when more sh1t hits the fan, Boris or Gove will be taking all the flak for it.
dolnoslask  5 | 2805  
26 Jun 2016 /  #407
"Dolno that it is only a tiny minority that are like this,"

Thanks Chemikiem, I believe you are right here, since I posted the article I have read many of the comments that the DM readers have made the majority are angry and upset about this type of thing, which is great when you think about who is the average Daily mail Reader. (me included). random nutters are everywhere.

But here is a Dolno theory.

A perfect storm has been generated by Brexit

The referendum is just that a indicator of preference to leave made by people (Not legally binding unless voted in by politicians)

Cameron's resignation and turmoil within the shadaow cabinet has caused huge Division in UK politics.

The Liberal part has stated that return to the EU is going to be part of their manifesto.

Many who voted to leave are now expressing fear about the choice they have made.

The EU s getting hostile towards the UK demanding immediate article 50.

Labour's manifesto will be EU positive.

80% Career politicians are pro EU

The upshot is that we may have a general election called due to the Political turmoil and uncertainty of a new (un elected) Prime minister.

Bingo snap election no one will vote UKIP in to run the country, Bound to be a hung pro EU Parliment (Democraticaly voted in) Tada Brexit reversed.

Upshot is , all the money men snapping up cheap shares an currency are going to make a killing.

The man in the street has been duped again and will have to foot the bill.

Not a time to put away the popcorn yet
johnny reb  48 | 7733  
26 Jun 2016 /  #408
Sadly there are nationalist twats in many countries.

By "twats" you must mean "Politically Incorrect" that don't stoop to the whining Liberals.
The people are speaking and they DO NOT WANT anymore immigrants and that is just plain reality.
Use liberal condescending words (twats, racists, etc.) to describe the MAJORITY that have had a belly full of welfare immigrants all you want to. (Socialism doesn't work)

After what is now being called "Little England's" move, the EU is in fear of the domino effect.
This is why Merkel is suggesting to drag the departure out as long as maybe two years.
After talks with French President Francois Hollande, she said it was "clear that there are some who want the divorce to be as painful as possible to discourage other peoples from taking the same path as the British".

Little England should now be wearing Trump T-shirts to show support that say, "Make England Great Again".
Tictactoe  
26 Jun 2016 /  #409
Labour will never get into power with a pro EU stance. Maybe students and Londoners would vote for them. Wales and the Labour heartlands will NEVER vote for them.
Dougpol1  29 | 2497  
26 Jun 2016 /  #410
Labour will never get into power with a pro EU stance.

Why not? Blair successfully sold Europe to Labour voters. Now that the Conservatives have moved to the right, the new Labour Leader can again take over that middle ground, akin to what John Smith was going to do before he so tragically died.
ender  5 | 394  
26 Jun 2016 /  #411
I know I'm just 'Murican' but that card makes no sense in English no matter how insulting and hostile



Doesn't make sense in Polish as well, hence average English. (google translate has been in use)
Tictactoe  
26 Jun 2016 /  #412
It won't happen.

They have a no confidence vote from the heartlands, I know I live there. Labour are public enemy and not trusted.

The left calling people rasict little Englander xenophobes, doesn't earn you votes.

Emily " look at that flag" and Abbott the " don't white people love to divide and conquer " are on the Labour front bench !!. Rasict white working class haters need to go.
Chemikiem  
26 Jun 2016 /  #413
Many who voted to leave are now expressing fear about the choice they have made.

Yes, I have read reports of this. I think that many people who voted for leave did so with their hearts and not their heads.

The EU s getting hostile towards the UK demanding immediate article 50.

As far as I'm aware and I heard this on the news, there is nothing written down in law regarding when article 50 should be invoked. If this is the case, then the EU can get as hostile as it wants, they can't actually force the issue.

The upshot is that we may have a general election called due to the Political turmoil and uncertainty of a new (un elected) Prime minister.

If that's possible it may not be a bad thing. The thought of either Boris or Gove being a new PM is too scary to think of :-(

The man in the street has been duped again and will have to foot the bill.

There was never any doubt of that!
jon357  73 | 23112  
26 Jun 2016 /  #414
Yes, I have read reports of this. I think that many people who voted for leave did so with their hearts and not their heads.

Basically a lot of those who voted o leave, did so thinking he leave vote wouldn't exceed 50%. And thanks in part to such voters, sadly it reached 51.9%...
Chemikiem  
26 Jun 2016 /  #415
did so thinking he leave vote wouldn't exceed 50%.

Odd way to vote!! Why would you bother voting for that reason. Bizarre!

thanks in part to such voters, sadly it reached 51.9%...

They will be repenting at their leisure once the truth sinks in.......
iwonadem  - | 14  
26 Jun 2016 /  #416
Odd way to vote!! Why would you bother voting for that reason. Bizarre

I find it odd but it is true.

Boris Johnson was not ready for this result - He is pining for Prime Minister position but he clearly overdone and his chances are shrinking now... .
Chemikiem  
26 Jun 2016 /  #417
Boris Johnson was not ready for this result - He is pining for Prime Minister position

I think he may be pining a lot less if it is on his head to invoke Article 50. He would have known that Cameron was stepping down and if he becomes the new PM, he will not relish the onus for further carnage to be on his head.

Cameron wasn't stupid, he started it all, but the new PM will suffer the consequences.
dolnoslask  5 | 2805  
26 Jun 2016 /  #418
I would like to stress that I have always found the of majority British people are sympathetic and welcoming to the Polish people, I would strongly urge all poles not to let hatred of a minority racist Britons spoil the hard work and strong bond between our two nations.

We once stood together as brothers in arms against the Nazi racists, that spirit I believe is still strong and alive and continues to live on between out two nations.
johnny reb  48 | 7733  
26 Jun 2016 /  #419
No doubt Poland will feel the trickle down effect.
Little England is going to be struggling economically in the years to come which will effect Poland.
With the British pound falling, with a downgraded credit rating, job losses, higher interest rates which will push Britain into a recession and then potentially Poland.

A Scottish departure will even further limit London because Scotland is the home of Britain's nuclear arsenal.
Where would Britain relocate these nuclear weapons if Scotland votes to leave, Poland ?

Rasict white working class haters need to go.

I've been tellin' ya, Socialism doesn't work and now that the other guys money has run out these Politically Correct Progressive Liberal's are starting to panic.

WHO's gonna feed us now because we are clueless on how to tighten our belts, go without, pay our own way without living off the other working guy's money.

This is just the tip of the iceberg as to what is to come world wide.
Tictactoe  
26 Jun 2016 /  #420
They can relocate those weapons and subs to the north east of the UK. It will receive the base gladly !!.

Am sure the dirty American banks and the heavily indebted German banks will and hopefully leave the UK for Frankfurt, Paris etc. I certainly won't miss dodge bankers treating people like crap. Go, thanks for coming.

You can't lose what you don't have !!.

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