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How might Britain`s withdrawal from EU affect Poles there and here?


Dougpol1  29 | 2497  
24 Jun 2016 /  #331
come on stay

If the UK leaves it will be major **** for Poland. This is too close, but I still predict a stay vote.
GLostEmail  
24 Jun 2016 /  #332
telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/23/eu-referendum-will-it-be-brexit-exit-poll-and-results-live/
wow I peeked in for curiosity as a man that looked like a french bulldog with odd accent announced that (they were talking about London moments before) that out of 90k+ votes it was split 60/30 in favor of leave I think for invaclude <_< exciting how close it all is

ooops it was Welingborough. Well time to wash dishes for the night. Still it is interesting witnessing something historical. Leave or stay, the left behind are going to have to be addressed. They are not a minority of disgruntled racists. They are desperate middle class that is sinking to poverty class wanting any thing thrown that could float.
Dougpol1  29 | 2497  
24 Jun 2016 /  #333
From early results it is very possible that Brexit will happen. Even London may not rescue Remain because of the weather, and anyway the stats do not look positive in any way.

Cameron is now history. This is BIG.
dolnoslask  5 | 2807  
24 Jun 2016 /  #334
Hope your prediction is right Doug, but I am surprised at the welsh voting, places like Merthyr voting out , I thought that would tow the labour line
Dougpol1  29 | 2497  
24 Jun 2016 /  #335
places like Merthyr voting out

That size of vote is NOT good:(
TheOther  6 | 3596  
24 Jun 2016 /  #337
Wow, who would have thought! Interesting times ahead, it seems. Wonder if Poland will receive the same amount of EU subsidies once the Brits have left (if they decide to do so). The Germans can't shoulder everything, that's for sure. Looks like we are seeing the beginning of the end of the EU.

And maybe the end of the UK as well. Scotland is already considering to demand a second referendum for independence, according to the Guardian.
poleinus  
24 Jun 2016 /  #338
I hope Britain leaves the EU. It will better for EVERYONE involved in the long run (except maybe for EU, particularly German, politicians). Polish citizens in Britain could return to Poland and contribute all of their energy, talent, and effort back into the Polish economy and society, and create a Poland that they'd like to live and work in. Can't say that's something I'll be crying about. In the long run, Poland is better off without EU's and Britain's potted plants and fancy streetlamps, while being forced to build its own economy!!

Wonder if Poland will receive the same amount of EU subsidies once the Brits have left (if they decide to do so).

Logic dictates that it won't.

Looks like we are seeing the beginning of the end of the EU.

I sure hope so.
TheOther  6 | 3596  
24 Jun 2016 /  #339
Polish citizens in Britain could return to Poland and contribute

Unfortunately, Poland cannot provide enough jobs to accomodate all these people.
Szalawa  2 | 239  
24 Jun 2016 /  #340
It will take time to adjust, but I believe things will get settled out. In the end this is what Poland needs, it's young working people

Today has made history

while being forced to build its own economy!!

Right on :)

Scotland is already considering to demand a second referendum for independence

So? let them, I see no problem
Dougpol1  29 | 2497  
24 Jun 2016 /  #341
well done to Polish Investor and others, who foresaw this.

This is life changing, and I am deeply ashamed to be British today, and glad that I am the **** out of it.
Atch  24 | 4368  
24 Jun 2016 /  #342
Cheer up Doug. This may indicate a bit of a swing to the right in Britain for a few years, but they will move back towards the centre and end up as an independent nation with good relations and trade links with their European neighbours. Britain is basically a stable democracy (apart from Northern Ireland, their real shame and disgrace). The trouble is that countries like Poland which are not stable democracies may foolishly think 'oh if the UK can do this, so can we' but they can't do it with the same kind of impunity that Britain can.
peterweg  37 | 2305  
24 Jun 2016 /  #343
So? let them, I see no problem

Thats exactly the attitude that resulted in an out vote. I was shocked by how many people think it will make no difference.

Now we get to see.

The next step is independence for Scotland and London.
Dougpol1  29 | 2497  
24 Jun 2016 /  #344
Can't cheer up Atch. This has severely damaged our country, and will only feed the scum trolls such as PIS. We will get some form of 'associate status," but this will take years.

Our capital city has voted resoundingly to Remain. They should dig Cromwell up and declare war on the riff-raff Midlands and North East, and restore Parliament's "authority." The people are not fit to govern, and have ******* it for decent people. It is a far more dangerous world this morning than the world I was drinking in last night.

In my opinion.
DavidMc  1 | 7  
24 Jun 2016 /  #345
yay ! don't you all forget to go home now,
and put back all the thing stolen.
Germany will be like, oh s*** here come the car thieves, again.
Bye bye, safe journey home, & don't hurry to come back

ps a joke to cheer you up,
what has brexit and acetone got in common?
they are both great polish removers.
peterweg  37 | 2305  
24 Jun 2016 /  #346
You talking about the English car thieves ..or what?
Atch  24 | 4368  
24 Jun 2016 /  #347
don't you all forget to go home now, and put back all the thing stolen.

And this from a reader of The Guardian who apparently speaks Polish.......tut, tut.

I am an irish immigrant

How lovely. Let's talk about our homeland over in Random Chat.
Dougpol1  29 | 2497  
24 Jun 2016 /  #348
Cameron to resign.
Dougpol1  29 | 2497  
24 Jun 2016 /  #350
Cameron is a thoroughly decent man. Osborne is otherwise. A great pity that he's gone, and now the racist scum are running with the hounds, as here in Poland.

Time to pull up the drawbridge
dolnoslask  5 | 2807  
24 Jun 2016 /  #351
Future = Boris and the Trunpster I'm building a moat.
nothanks  - | 626  
24 Jun 2016 /  #352
Monumental lose for globalist. Cameron stepping down.

Up next: Trump
2017: Merkel booted out

White Race is not done just yet
Ziemowit  14 | 3936  
24 Jun 2016 /  #353
The trouble is that countries like Poland which are not stable democracies may foolishly think 'oh if the UK can do this, so can we'

You are right here. But believe me, neither PiS nor the nation as a whole do not think seriously about leaving the EU. And even without all the financial gain Poland has from the EU, I am sure people would vote to stay in. You've been simply influenced too much by the British libtards' propaganda on this forum to believe otherwise ...

It is a far more dangerous world this morning than the world I was drinking in last night.

You have been drinking too much recently and that is your real problem, not the Brexit.
Atch  24 | 4368  
24 Jun 2016 /  #354
You've been simply influenced too much by the British libtards' propaganda

My views on Poland have been formed by my personal experiences of it. In my opinion, Poland doesn't really like being part of the EU. They like the money but they don't like being told what to do and expected to conform to ideals which they don't share. I think they believed when they joined the EU that they could take all the funding offered and then simply give the finger to policies or directives that they didn't like.

I've said it before but I'll say it again: the social and cultural revolution of the 1950s and 1960s passed Poland by, as it did all of those countries behind the Iron Curtain. In the last 20 years Poland has been plunged overnight from WWII days and catapulted forward into a world that it doesn't fully comprehend. I see Poland as torn between wanting to be part of that world and resisting it at the same time.
smurf  38 | 1940  
24 Jun 2016 /  #355
Poland doesn't really like being part of the EU

No, I would disagree strongly with you here.
OK, I can't really disagree with an opinion, but you get me.

Poland has gained so much under the EU and in recent polls the satisfaction rate is still very healthy.

I see Poland as torn between wanting to be part of that world and resisting it at the same time.

I understand that point of view, but I don't see it with people who are around 35 and under. The auld fogies always look at the past with rose-tinted specs, but even they know that Poland's success has been in large part thanks to the EU, not really thanks to the various dopey governments that have been in power since 1989
Atch  24 | 4368  
24 Jun 2016 /  #356
I suppose Smurf it would be more accurate for me to say that Polish politicians don't like the EU. I think they feel that they can't get up to whatever they like because they're being watched and that they have to respect certain codes of practice and so on that go against the grain with them. I think that even the most reasonable of them are a bit touchy about the concept of Polish sovereignty, which I can sympathise with, Poland having had so little independence in the recent past. However I do feel that there's a fundamenal lack of respect for others that permeates Polish society at every level. Although it's improved it's still very common to be treated like dirt in a number of situations.

I don't see it with people who are around 35 and under.

Depends. Bear in mind that some of them won't say exactly what they think to a 'foreigner' especially a nice Irish lad like yourself :) People don't say things to me directly, but Mr Atch works with a lot of people in that age group and a lot of them are still very conservative, with attitudes that wouldn't be out of place in 1950s Ireland. They appear outwardly 'modern' but dig a bit deeper and it's a different story.
dolnoslask  5 | 2807  
24 Jun 2016 /  #357
Sadiq Khan Plans to keep London in the EU, Source Nicola Sturgeon, Talking on sky news now
Dougpol1  29 | 2497  
24 Jun 2016 /  #358
your real problem, not the Brexit

Wot you on about now witless? Brexit would be right up your street, but it's actually targeted at people like you. Never mind that in all probability you know bugger all about the UK political landscape.
smurf  38 | 1940  
24 Jun 2016 /  #359
it would be more accurate for me to say that Polish politicians don't like the EU

hahah, true...well, excpet the ones working in Brussels on nice money......looking at you Tusk ;)

However I do feel that there's a fundamenal lack of respect for others that permeates Polish society at every level

You know, I used to feel exactly the same and I kinda changed it by changin my attitude. I used to try to communicate in Polish totally, now when I enter a place I'll say in Poland 'very sorry, my Polish is very bad, I just moved here a few months ago. I'm from Ireland. Can you help me with XYZ'

Since I've started doing that I've not once had a bad experience.
Atch, you need to play the green card more often, once they know you're not English or German you're in ;)

But saying that, it's only with older poeple, younger people I think are really lovely here.....except the football hooligans, but even then, if you can get one on one with a hooligan you can talk about football and it's fine y'know

People don't say things to me directly, but Mr Atch works with a lot of people in that age group and a lot of them are still very conservative, with attitudes that wouldn't be out of place in 1950s Ireland

Yea, that's true indeed. Racism and homophobia is still rife, I can only hope it improves. Like, remember growing up in 1980s Ireland, I could never have imagined that gay marriage would be legal now y'know.

Maybe I'm stupid, but I'm actually optimistic about Poland's young people. It's the old people and the politicians that need to be shipped off.
terri  1 | 1661  
24 Jun 2016 /  #360
>>>>It's the old people and the politicians that need to be shipped off.
You forget one thing - one day YOU will be old....where would you like to be shipped off to? Please let us know.

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