No job unless you're Polish

Some English speakers, mafketis, not all. Most jobs say EU nationals preferred. That's fine as it means that people from so many countries can apply AND leaves the door open for those outside the EU to at least have a chance of taking up the position should they be suitably qualified.

I wouldn’t be so sure. They simply found another way to save the cost thus maximize their profit in form of relocation costs. Why spend money on that when you can relax the labor laws and guarantee that potential worker will come to work for you at his own expense for a lot less than a local. Who knows in 2-4 years it might be the Zimbabwean that is lot more profitable for them than a Pole and your theory of hard working Pole shut to hell. It’s all about profits.

Demand, meet supply, spot on.

Yeah, I noticed that. It's that double standard again.

(I'd actually translate it as "No English (language) required" or "(Knowlede of English) not necessary" but that's a quibble.)

Perhaps, because he wouldn't be able to read the DM and know he shouldn't apply.

I am a Pole living in Arizona, US. Yes, in US, sometimes employers prefer to hire people who speak Spanish. This practice creates resentment and animosity. I support the Brits. They should have an equal opportunity to compete for jobs. They are being discriminated against in their own country BY THEIR OWN PEOPLE. In the past, England was a great power; it has now become a namby-pamby.

When will the Brits elect politicians with with balls?


I wish that Mexicans that live in Arizona would move to where you live.

Who is this character?

Helena Danielczuk, who works for Bradford mental health charity Sharing Voices, said she had been approached by more than a dozen Eastern European workers who lost their jobs at Forza.

She said: 'They have to work for an unbroken 12 months otherwise they are unable to claim Jobseeker's Allowance. Some of them are destitute.' The charity has called for financial support for migrant workers left without work because of the fire.

So, she wants the Brits to cough up more cash to people who paid phuc all into the system? Surely its upto the Polish embassy to supply them with a ticket home?

We have "cultural enrichers" like her over here too. We have a phucing Slovak pushing for citizenship reform. Apparently, five years is to long of a wait for the bringers of "diversity" and "vibrancy".

I knew you'd be scanning the net looking for a way to blame the Poles, you are predictable to a fault.
Again the mistreatment of Poles


And there was a fire, so again the companies fault and they should be the ones to pay, try again.

I would love to see the Poles and the locals bring this company to the cleaners in court, to join forces they could collaborate each other's story!

If it is not just manipulation of the facts by the Daily mail and RN.

OMG who in the hell would wanna work there?
You guys are f-ing missing the point!!!!!!!!!!!
MEAT PACKING FACTORY = SWEATSHOP

I suspect if they would hire more than 10 Englishman there they would have to close the plant. No one would stand for the work conditions there except foreigners who don't know how to speak the native language. Are you blaming those stupid Polish people who work there for this? How can you allow for a business like that flourish in the civilized society that you proclaimed to represent?


Good news for everyone upset about Polish ppl taking jobs. There are similar plants in Germany, which accept English speaking workers with open hands. They pay better too. Average person lasts there a week.

Basically all British people should be banned from work untill they learn Polish, lazy sods.

English people should not allow for such businesses to exploit human beings. The meat packing factory is a sweatshop where people ruin their health and die.

What, you no understand? You drivin' me crazy, you!

Anyway, if your typical Brit hears that there are jobs in Poland that require Polish people living in their own country to speak a foreign language (English) they probably think that's great.

If they find out about a job that almost no British person wants that's in Britain and English isn't mandatory (not prohibited, just not necessary) then the sky is falling.

If understanding not serious on make how. you not at all is. I not how to sure make clear it.

Did any of you worked or knew someone who worked in the Meat Factory i.e. FORZA AW LIMITED?
Before you respond I suggest you guys research this subject...

Nonsense.


Don't make me laugh, I worked thrice as hard as any Polish person I've worked with. No competition for me really.


No they don't. They prefer people who don't complain about salary, rules or even their own safety. They also prefer not to give people permanent contracts, so they can fire people easily. Temporary workers fit this description. It has nothing to do with working harder, quite the contrary, foreign workers don't really care about the nation of their employer, or their employer.. (They'll be working somewhere else tomorrow if they get fired.)


I want to see you when Chinese workers flood your market. (Which will happen sooner or later.) See who's left to help you after you've screwed everyone.


No, it's the sign of a spoiled and decadent elite who are willing to betray their own people in order to play people against eachother. You obviously fell for it, but in the long run, you'll see you won't gain anything from this either.

:)

Excellent post. Bravo.

Just the truth.

:)

The next lot !!! I wonder who you consider to be the next Government.?
If you mean the current Opposition, then do you really believe that after 5 years there will be less foreigners in this country than there are now.

Isnt only a few months ago the Irish on this forum saying the same things that the EU referendum was going to be rejected and what became of that.

You're right, and we should help eachother as people, because they're screwing the foreign workers aswell.

I know for a fact that a Polish construction worker fell of an building once due to lack of safety measures. The Dutch construction workers wouldn't do it and complained about safety, so they were sent home. A Polish team of construction workers got up there, without safety and one guy fell. He died instantly, and the agency he worked for didn't even bother to sent his widow his last salary. This is not a fairytale. It happened. (Taken from the FNV magazine.)

Is this how Polish people fight for their rights? Huh? Come on! You're allowing these leeches to use you like animals, and you put the working people who fight for their rights out of their jobs by accepting such a treatment?

And back home? That's right, what will happen if you go back to Poland? Will you have a job there? Or will some immigrant from the Ukraine do your job because he's cheaper than you? Polish workers who want to stay in England or in Holland? How do you want to do that with less than minimum wage? Without an agency which arranges temporary living space for you? Face it, you're being used, and unfortunately you're also undermining our rights because you comply, and you people don't complain about low wages, you don't even complain about health or safety-related issues.

Think before you do something, and demand a fair treatment for the work you're going to do here. If we're not going to fight for our rights, or show any solidarity, they're going to undermine our position first, and then they'll undermine yours. You might benefit from all of this today, but you might aswell lose it all to another wave of immigrants from another country tomorrow. Is that what you people want then?

Why do you ask us ? Isn't that a British factory in Britain ?

Thats correct so why are they asking for Polish language as a must? Thats the point I was making, only some of the posters on this thread thought it was okay...

It's a simple point. If operations must be conducted in Polish then it fits. Otherwise it's blatant discrimination and I'll be damned if unscrupulous British trash profit off of the undercutting they do.

I was working in Canary Wharf in London where 7 people died on the site I was working on, most of whom were working for minimum wage.

The 'curse of Canary Wharf' claims another life.

The crain had snapped in half killing the driver and two labourers. I wasn't there but I was told that it cut through the building.

I saw an amazing amount of accidents there, and when I had heard 8 people had died I went to the health and saftey guy on site and asked him about it, he was a very nervous man and replied to me that "tomy knowledge only 7 people had died" at which I freaked out and asked him what the hell he meant by "to my knowledge" and "only 7"??? What a catastrophe.

You're right. Many employers demand you speak some kind of a foreign language these days. (It happens over here aswell!) Now how ridiculous is that? Are we supposed to study Chinese to do simple tasks in our own country next year?


I've seen quite a few people die with my own two eyes. Mostly due to simple things like miscommunication and a lack of safety precautions. I've stopped working as a construction worker, simply because it's not safe anymore. For example, if I will turn off a switch somewhere, and leave a note on the switch not to turn it on, some idiot will turn it on because he can't read Dutch or English..

Maybe I should write a new Electrician's Safety Manual: How do I prevent myself from getting electrocuted?

:S

I never saw anyone die but that did not make me feel any safer.

Such practicalities must be addressed.
youtube.com/watch?v=0DVs25ejP3Q&feature=related
a politician is discussing linguistic problems and safety issues here and I agree with her. We see just how greedy people are, opting for cheap labour at the expense of practicality. No more so than now is the idea of the right person for the right job so important.

Its never happened before in the UK, until relatively recent times.


Well, not really because the Chinese generally speak very good English ;0)

I dont have a problem with companies asking for a language if there is a need, say for instance there was an interesting job I saw the other day but Swedish was needed, I am assuming they do business with Swedish companies so...there is a genuine need..but a meat packing factory, it was just another way of alienating Brits, as I said, I hope they close the recruitment agency down and stop them from trading ever again...The idiots in HR at the company that they supplied staff to should be sacked!

Well, there is European legislation that states that people will move into a job or will take active steps to get 'proper' employment. I can't remember the name of the EU Directive but I've posted it here before. People seem to be blind to that.

Well, I remember saying something about it back in 2006, and I got all sorts of funny replies from people who told me to stop whining and to be more competitive. It almost makes me wonder what happened to those people, because they're obviously not posting here anymore.


My uncle is married to a Chinese woman, and I can assure you that many Chinese people - the rural folks - don't speak or understand a word of English.


Ofcourse, that would be totally understandable and justified.


I like your way of thinking.

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There aren't many Chinese people in rural Britain. And it would be hard for them to live in the countryside without speaking at least some English.

I worked on the WCRM upgrade on a secondment for 12 months, I attended several enquiries - the accidents that could have happened due to negligence were frightening - miscommunication between English people happens..I know most of the reputable site safety firms wont hire foreign labour because of this...clear communication and a high level of respect for safety regulations is a must in certain environments....


Thts true, Ive never seen a Chinese person in the countryside or a village, but I know Chinese people speak pretty good English (we have a large Chinese community in Manchester and never come across one that didnt speak English) and if you know a Chinese person who was born in the UK they always have regional accent and you wouldnt guess they were Chinese apart from their appearance..

They were. They elected a Labour government in 2001 which ratified Nice, and they were offered a referendum on Polish workers in 2005 - which again returned a Labour government.

Let's not forget that the last election of note, the 2007 Scottish Parliament election saw a clear return for pro-immigration parties.