Irish leaving Ireland again. Economy forcing them to immigrate

Dude, you set up call centers, its hardly rocket science. I guarantee you that if the government implemented a scheme where by the employer had to first search for an Irish citizen to fill a vacancy and then search abroad for someone of Irish descent - not one position would go unfilled.

And you would be going home. In a rocket sent in the general direction of Holland.

Wishful thinking. It's my company's policy to look among the locals first and then check within the company for suitable ppl. They came to me as they couldn't find any qualified Irish to do the job. As for rocket science: it's not to build one if you have all the time in the world and your boss doesn't mind crossing over the budget, anyone with organisational talent can do that, if they have enough time. But it is rocketscience to do everything within a (usually) very short timeframe in the most cost-effective and efficient way. Plus I'm not even talking about all the effective hiring of the correct ppl (most of the agents I have are technical specialists, trained to have in-depth knowledge of the deepest cores of certain programs and got to have extensive base-knowledge when they apply - it's not just taking names and addresses; that's being done in India and the respective countries themselves) and finding them in the quickest pssbl way, the setting up of new procedures, scheduling and making it profitable. The expectancy of a new call centre is to be at a SLA of 80 per cent 3 months after start-up. It's not that they're gonna say: "oh, I understand you just started and we don't mind you being 15 pts below the initial SLA". No, if this happens (and it has never happened to me, that's why they asked me), they will start looking for at time draconian performance improvement plans and if you fail in the second 3 months to reach the bottom SLA of 80, you can pack your stuff and wave goodbye.

So, if you think you can do this within the timeframe of 4-5 months, be my guest :)

>^..^<

M-G (yay!)

of course:)


it is what it is. I was hoping for some discussion since the is a number of Irish posters here.

It is very sad Aphrodisiac, nobody likes to leave their country but sometimes needs must


That will depend on the skills and the educational standards of the people who are leaving.


Well M-G you know what they say about Ireland "What you expected to happen won't happen, what you least expected to happen will happen" It must be something to do with the air, it drives people insane. Are you the same person now, as you were when you arrived six years ago.

I hope you will enjoy your sabbatical in the US, I have just got back and had a great time in DC and NY. Look after yourself, and take it easy.

What are your feelings re Srebrenica Massacre? Do you believe that by extension the Netherlands is a nation of cowards?

I would view it the other way round.
Ireland prospered for about 15 year, that is the thing, take those fifteen years out of Irish history and nothing has changed.


RevokeNice is the embodiment of this. He would not have existed only for the 15 years he was lucky to be born in to.

But MG, although a lot of what you say is true, it's maybe the way you say it (or maybe the way I read it, nobody likes to see their country run down) gives an awful negative impression.

Sure aren't the other W-European countries that you are saying Ireland is not up to scratch with, also in recession due to bad governing, banks and greed?


A disturbingly wonderful quote and regretfully applicable.

None of my friends have left Ireland lately but there has been great talk of Canada.

When do they leave? Maybe I can get them on a boat with the next load of Tamils.

:-)

When does the boat set sail? :)

Some of my friends have taken big pay cuts while others have lost their jobs a while ago now, with little hope for a future.

Emigration is usually out of necessity.
I can't imagine that many coming to Poland, mainly due to the language barrier and the difficulties that incurs. Australia, Canada, the U.S., Germany (they have generally a good standard of English). Same as before.

I left Ireland about 9 years ago, when it was at it's peak. I was asked the other day why I had left then, when things were going so well. I didn't have an answer, I just wanted to travel.

Yea.maybe 25% of my friends, left around then, or a little before, for the same reason. Travel or just to escape the horrible climate.
A large proportion of Irish go foreign for a year, after their studies,especially to ozz ;now they're just not coming back.

In Ireland today on the RTE news:the ESRI expects emigration to pick up strongly, with some 50,000 forecast to emigrate this year. This compares to 44,000 who left the country in 1989, the peak year for emigration in the 1980s.