Homeless Poles living on barbecued rats and alcoholic handwash?

Oh ..i see , you just hate Russians....

Yes , i have fallen in love with a Russian , and plan to live there , but thats not caused me to suddenly hate Polish people...

I have some great Polish friends here , as well as some i don,t like at all...

I imagine it will be the same in Russia...

They should be deported home, those that drink alcoholic handwash. The NHS is strained enough and we don't need self-inflicted harmers stupidly adding to it. I'm with Amathyst, send them on coaches home, note down their names and ensure that they don't get back in. I've just heard too many accounts of using Britain as a dumping ground.

Oh please.

What did I say that made you think I hate Russians?

When I said that its good that Poles are sending firefighters to help the Russians?

Why all this hypersensitivity about Russians?

good question...?

Funny old world joining the EU ' we have always hade tramps an drunks an beggers here in London an across the UK funny how they go to find a polish person an print that storey but forget to mention how many homeless or mentaly ill that we have kicked out of care homes to fend for themselfs out on the streets 'it's not just polish who are homeless .

cardboard city at the embankment in london was here way before the polish was an way before we joined the EU ...

I am not convinced yet they were actually Polish...!

there was, and I'm sure is, marked for Polish passports in non_EU country's in Eastern Europe. What the problem for Russian, Belarusian or Ukrainian person to pretend to be Polish - most British wouldn't know a difference even if told!

I-S (eh?)

You really do keep posting nonsense, don't you?

Minimum wage in Poland for a daily wage (8 hours) is about 16-17 euro a day. Bear in mind that living costs are stupidly low here - I saw potatoes in one market for 0.60zl (or what, about 15 cents?) a kilo, it's not as bad as it sounds.

And another thing is that many people aren't on minimum wage, either.

Plenty of tubbies about so they should at least be well fed.

No , don,t...i can see the headlines now....Missing person suspected of being eaten by Poles...!!!

I saw a women the other day and her arse was as wide as i am tall. There was enough meat on there to feed twenty homeless for a week.

She even had a small child. I don't know who was tackling her but he is a braver man then i.

correction: other Eastern Europeans may be mistaken for Poles.

The article was a way to manipulate the readers, or reinforce the idea that indeed Polish immigrants (possibly the largest number in the UK, therefore the most visible) are becoming a menace. Nothing less, nothing more.

As for drinking in Poland, there are a lot of people who drink denaturat, Woda Brzozowa etc like stuff and you know it very well.

Not from that newspaper. It's one of the most left wing new lie-bour mouthpieces you will ever get.

what is your point anyway?

that is how I read it, regardless of the author intentions.


that alcoholism is wide spread.

Seriously even if they were poles i'ts nothing to be ashamed of. The only ones who should feel ashamed are the brittish people who let this happend.

Shame on you britain to let things like this happens!!!

Welcome to GREAT britain!!!

Britain is already bankrupt like US...fact. I also know Brits who are doing it tough in their own country, and some English girls I know have thought about prosituting themselves. Its not only the Polish women who are prostuting. I also know some Brits who are university educated, and still can't get a job after 2 years of trying. So what does that tell you about the rest of the UK?

It tells me that they need to rethink job creation and explore the different ways of carving out a living. Firing off the CV into the void makes no sense. Do what you've always done and you'll get what you've always got. Simple!

It's not bankrupt. You need to examine organisations like The Federal Reserve in America and how they can print money at will.

99.9% isn't printed, it's just willed into being.

Explain please :)

And here in Greece crisis has hit polish immigrants ugly.One girl I knew works now as a prostitute on the street,another one has vanished and is likely escort and two have been at least temporarily employed in massage parlors.Others have left to Poland.

You ever been unemployed Seanus, or wanted to better yourself in any way?

yasuu, kalimara

...and how is your moma?

Alcoholic handwash? CooL - I bet it is safer than denaturat, therefore I support the idea that all alcoholics be given a ticket to and map of Greater London, as well as a brochure which includes translations and instructions on how to beg, and where to get alcohol(for the not so bright ones) and of course how to get to A n E when your body start to give.

You ought to go visit some Russian towns and have a peek at what kinda liqor they drinking over there - 2nd cause of death there is alcohol poisoning.

Very good point...And Lipsky is a Jewish name.

While this article is sensationalist, it illustrated the point Jesus made when He said 'You will always have the poor with you'...Even in an amazingly affluent Western world, where the notion of someone going hungry, or without a useful occupation, should be unheard of, we see that certain people, due to either psychological or spiritual infirmity, go to the gutter.

In any case, it is the duty of a civilized society to reach out to them...However, in the capitalist world. they are merely a nuisance, and 'unsightly', and are candidates for elimination, or a perverse entertainment.

However, in London there is not enough prime real estates for them:
themoscowtimes.com/realestate/beyond_moscow/properties_abroad/article/rush-to-britain/411411.html

Price tags on London's prime residential real estate have leapt 20 percent on the year, while Russians are now the biggest buyers in the sector.


They are the mirror for the rich to look at every day and measure success. They are the foundation on which the capitalist society stands. Shouldn't they be paid for this?

espana
Bootas I was in Spain 19y ago and there were people living in filthy caves. BTW there was no immigrants airports looked like police stations stinking, streets and stinking Arab-looking people.

Asolutely!!

Up until recently 60% of the registered homeless (UK Wide) were ex members of HM Forces.


WTF??

And you dont think this happens in Poland? Or Germany? Or France? Or Belgium ...Ad Infinitum....

In fact, as I pass through Gare du Nord on Monday morning i'll take some shots of the families living in the station itself or the army of beggars stood on the steps, or then I could jump off the tram at Liedts and take some shots of the 20 or so guys that gather there almost daily.

But its only happening in Britain right??

And of course the authorities are duty bound to house them, wean them off thier alcoholism and give them a job, because thats exactly what I could expect if I found myself in the same situation in Poland.

IGNORANT TWOT!!!

Incidentally, In the interests balanced journalism it may have been worth giving the comparative stats of UK homeless.

Go on...

Well that would depend entirely on whose figures you prefer to use. The governments figures claim 464 people are sleeping rough in England. The UK government's definition of homeless is someone who is actually "bedded down" in a sleeping bag. These are the only ones counted. Someone sitting up in a sleeping bag, or standing alongside their bedding is not counted. These figures have even been massaged to the extent that the local autorities have been accused of not counting those that are lying down but have their eyes open.

Crisis, (The homeless Charity) who maintain thier own records and a database of names say the number in the region of 3500 in London alone!!

Sleeping Rough is defined differently to homeless.

In the first quarter of 2010, there were around 65,000 homeless households in temporary accommodation in Great Britain. (This does not include those voluntary homeless)

Crisis, has estimated that there are 380,000 hidden homeless households in the UK at any one time. The majority of these households are single homeless.

3500 in London sounds much more realistic than 464 in the whole of England!