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Former minister admits UK messed up on immigration


Dirk diggler  10 | 4452  
13 Jun 2018 /  #61
because I can see how Europe can be a better life for those peoples.

Europe ought to be for europeans first and foremost. Let them fix their own countries and continents instead of leeching off europeans accomplishments

where Europe is severely underpopulated

Europe is not underpopulated that is tired old bullshit lie. And even if european birthrates are falling a program like the 500 zs immediatelt boosted birth rates in poland. There's no need to import third worlders as they are not a net benefit to Europe. That is why countries like germaby are begging others to take in a chunk of them to 'share the burden.' Now if they were such a net benefit for a country politicians wouldnt want to redistribute them and keep them for themselves. But they know that an illiterate third worlder with no skills, who cannot speak the language or wants to learn it and plans on collecting benefits his whole life is not helping the country. That's why they want poland and Hungary to take them in as they already habe enough third worlders living off benefits and opening kebab stands and dont need more.

But of course you and your like don't want others to have a good lifestyle - you want to keep them down.

Of course. In order for one to win another must lose.

The way I see it poland is winning since they haven't taken in third worlders at a huge economic cost to the citizens, haven't had a single islamic terror attack, are not having a crisis of nonstop rapes and dont have tent cities in the middle of warsaw like Paris does. We took in 2 million.migrants - from ukraine not middle East or africa. And because we took in migranrs from ukraine and not me and africa we don't have the problems associated with those migrants. Ukranians work, assimilate and contribute. Middle easterners and africans rape pillage draw benefits and dont want to work or assimilate, and especially middle easterners actuslly the africans assimilate better than the arabs
Rich Mazur  4 | 2894  
13 Jun 2018 /  #62
That's immigration for you. A fact of life.

No. It's merit immigration.

Illegal "immigration" is not immigration. It's an invasion. They might just as well as carry guns to rob the locals. Unfortunately for the locals - who, by the way, are never asked if they want the invading scum to be let in - their governing elites are co-conspirators who aid and abet said scum.

Good deflection, though, with that "immigration". Now get a cookie.
Dougpol1  29 | 2497  
13 Jun 2018 /  #63
you just make things up to put Poland down and support your free for all agenda.

No. It's not my view. It's a widely held view that I subscribe to.
And yes, Poles do love being lazy and swinging the long weekend. The UK always has the Monday off. It clearly worked for you as an engineer. think of all the work it would have cost you if the rest of the UK had said, "we can't meet with you today Dolno - we are in the pub"?

Meanwhile, here in medieval Poland, those of us who work for a living and are self employed are regularly ****** from a great height because those we serve enjoy pulling a sickie. But ZUS still wants to collect.

Yes - immigrants...get them in!
Rich Mazur  4 | 2894  
13 Jun 2018 /  #64
Now if they were such a net benefit for a country politicians wouldnt want to redistribute them and keep them for themselves.

My favorite argument followed by dead silence. Except that I am a Russian troll.

Are we the only sane here?
dolnoslask  5 | 2807  
13 Jun 2018 /  #65
and sand and more sand, and no alcohol, so I don't begrudge them some fun in London.

Again more from someone who has never set a foot in the country they are talking about, otherwise you would know that there is plenty of alcohol and bacon and pork especially for the foreigners. you have no idea, and probably would not be able to afford the plane ticket to find out.
Dirk diggler  10 | 4452  
13 Jun 2018 /  #66
Yet poland can't get enough ukranians thats the funny part. But they won't take in even a few thousand arabs because they know theyre not going to contribute and be a net benefit.

The variable is where the migranrs come from. Europe = good... net benefit, can't get enough of them, hard working, assimilate, does not rape, kill or terrorize

Middle East = bad... net liability, want to redistribute them to 'share the burden' (bit wait earlier the lefties said they culturally enrich a country, now theyre calling them a burden?), numerous countries dont want even a few thousand of them because they know there's going to be problems woth them, prefers to draw benefits than work, does not assimilate, prefers to rape women and cause violence and terrorism, establishes no go zones which now even.merkel admits are a reality - ah you should've been here rich when all the lefties were denying that no gos are a reality, now that merkel admitted they exist theyre silent on this topic
Dougpol1  29 | 2497  
13 Jun 2018 /  #67
opening kebab stands

Well, if they were real kebabs (mutton) then I would be all for it. But you're right. Send them back - that pork rubbish is not a kebab. Could somebody please tell me again why Polish "kebabs" are such gash?

afford the plane ticket

Sorry pal. I am likely more cash rich than you are:) Until Dougpol terraces completes in good old Britain that is....
You're welcome to places like Dubai too:) Enjoy!
dolnoslask  5 | 2807  
13 Jun 2018 /  #68
"we can't meet with you today Dolno - we are in the pub"?

I would rather be down the pub than learning English.

From what I have seen of ZUS and taxes here in Poland you are getting a great deal so stop complaining, its not as if you don't have other options regarding where you live and what you earn.
Rich Mazur  4 | 2894  
13 Jun 2018 /  #69
now that merkel admitted they exist theyre silent on this topic

Just as the WW1 treaty led to Hitler 1.0, the Euro muslim idiocy will give them Hitler 2.0.

Later, they will be begging the US to save their Euro butts. Again.
Dougpol1  29 | 2497  
13 Jun 2018 /  #70
learning English.

Lots of people need English for work. They are happy when they are able to improve their skills. Probably some of them want to emigrate - to become an immigrant. Don't knock it. I don't insult engineers, and we also do a satisfying job. Otherwise, why do it?
dolnoslask  5 | 2807  
13 Jun 2018 /  #71
. I am likely more cash rich than you are:

Makes you sound like Harry Enfield.

You would have me hung drawn and quartered as a capitalist parasite, If you had only the slightest idea.

P.S Im not an engineer.
Dougpol1  29 | 2497  
13 Jun 2018 /  #72
begging the US to save their Euro butts

Foreign Office.

hung drawn and quartered as a capitalist parasite, If you had only the slightest idea.

Not at all. You started the childishness of talking about money. We don't know each other, and I don't measure someone by how much money they have. The way that you are brown nosing our resident millionaire says that you do.

Of course that is the way...millionaires (over 5 million is it?) are allowed into the UK with no problem. The same would go for Poland - muslim or not. Please do try to deny that fact.
dolnoslask  5 | 2807  
13 Jun 2018 /  #74
.millionaires (over 5 million is it?) are allowed into the UK with no problem.

And they should be allowed to move to Poland straight away, especially Muslim millionaires, have you ever met and had a few drinks with a a Muslim millionaire, very compatible with Poland indeed.
Dougpol1  29 | 2497  
13 Jun 2018 /  #75
What?

Take the first letter of each word and you got it. America entered both wars when it suited them. does Roosevelts, "...this European war..." speech ring any bells?

If I was American, I would have the dignity to keep it firmly shut.
Rich Mazur  4 | 2894  
15 Jun 2018 /  #76
America entered both wars when it suited them.

I agree with you 100%. America should be on stand-by waiting for the next 911 call from Europe or some other place.
Ziemowit  14 | 3936  
15 Jun 2018 /  #77
God loves America and nothing can stop His love for America!
Rich Mazur  4 | 2894  
15 Jun 2018 /  #78
If God loved America, it would today magically build that wall the American open borders nuts oppose. It did separate a sea in the ME, so a wall in the US should not be any more of a challenge.

In lieu of a wall, I will settle for a mine field and the drones with the machine guns and an unlimited supply of ammunition.

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