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brazilii  8 | 97  
11 Apr 2008 /  #481
tomar por culo jovencito chavalito, dos veses, y tu tata abuela tanbien

I didn`t go so low... if you knew my language you would know.

then why the hell do people all round the world have this over whelming desire to pay through the nose to learn it...

It`s the easiest one, that`s why it`s a universal language. Some complex language as polish will never be spoken worlwide because it takes more than a couple of years to learn.
PolskaDoll  27 | 1591  
11 Apr 2008 /  #482
What's the article Z, I'd like to read it. Sounds accurate though...

It's here scotland.gov.uk/Publications/2005/01/20541/50225
The info is a little oudated, but I'm sure things haven't changed too much :)

Cheers Z :)
incubus  1 | 146  
11 Apr 2008 /  #483
they know if they don't speak it then they are somewhat limited in opportunites around the world...

unfortunately, that is true

The English go on holiday, do they need to converse in depth with the locals?

nobody says they have to have in depth conversations with the locals but for shiiit`s sake, being able to say what you want to order for starters in a spanish restaurant would be nice, INNIT DUCK?
BubbaWoo  33 | 3502  
11 Apr 2008 /  #484
I didn`t go so low... if you knew my language you would know

well me ol china, its all relative really innit... i mean who's to say you havent misenterpreted the language connotations of a brit writing in spanish?

best thing would be for everyone to speak english

being able to say what you want to order for starters in a spanish restaurant would be nice, INNIT DUCK?

you know, thats all well and good and actually i agree but when you make the effort (and show the respect) to learn a foriegn language sufficiently to order a pizza, buy a beer and get a taxi home, it kinda defeats the object when people insist in speaking to you in english anyway.

its almost like for some unknown reason that the waitress, barman and taxi driver really want to practice their english with you more than have you speak their language. weird, huh?
ShelleyS  14 | 2883  
11 Apr 2008 /  #485
nobody says they have to have in depth conversations with the locals but for shiiit`s sake, being able to say what you want to order for starters in a spanish restaurant would be nice, INNIT DUCK?

The menu is in English, French and German...funny than innit, no Polish! We dont use duck in my part of the world neither do we say "innit"...
brazilii  8 | 97  
11 Apr 2008 /  #486
one of the blessings of not speaking other languages is that you dont understand the bollocks that other people speak, unless of course they insist on speaking english

I`m just being nice with you... you just complained of having to understand people, so writing in portuguese you don`t have to.
BubbaWoo  33 | 3502  
11 Apr 2008 /  #487
so writing in portuguese you don`t have to.

i appreciate your intentions, but unfortunately i did :-)
brazilii  8 | 97  
11 Apr 2008 /  #488
So you are a clever brit I guess
incubus  1 | 146  
11 Apr 2008 /  #489
The menu is in English, French and German...funny than innit, no Polish! We dont use duck in my part of the world neither do we say "innit"...

not sure if i understand what you are talking about O_o

its almost like for some unknown reason that the waitress, barman and taxi driver really want to practice their english with you more than have you speak their language. weird, huh?

well maybe they don`t even bother trying and speaking spanish to the english as they know that it will be a struggle and the actual ordering of starters, pizza, paella etc will take too long and other customers the waitress has to serve will get impatient and leave the restaurant. that`s just one scenario. let`s see what the taxi driver would do if an english person was trying to explain to him in spanish where he wants to go... any ideas?

well me ol china, its all relative really innit... i mean who's to say you havent misenterpreted the language connotations of a brit writing in spanish?

i thought brazilii was speaking portuguese @_@

brazilii:
so writing in portuguese you don`t have to.

i appreciate your intentions, but unfortunately i did :-)

the sentence you wrote looked spanish to me
brazilii  8 | 97  
11 Apr 2008 /  #490
i thought brazilii was speaking portuguese @_@

Yes, I was but I thought better not to mention...
BubbaWoo  33 | 3502  
11 Apr 2008 /  #491
the sentence you wrote looked spanish to me

it was but as you gain a greater understanding of lanuages and how they work you see the similarities of those that share a common root

well maybe they don`t even bother trying and speaking spanish to the english as they know that it will be a struggle

thats about as helpful as saying maybe the british dont bother trying to speak other languages as they know they will be spoken to in english anyway
brazilii  8 | 97  
11 Apr 2008 /  #492
Yes, unfortunetely your mistake is common.
incubus  1 | 146  
11 Apr 2008 /  #493
Yes, I was but I thought better not to mention...

lol then i guess my big mouth revealed it :)

it was but as you gain a greater understanding of lanuages and how they work you see the similarities of those that share a common root

gosh, i knew that. spanish, french, italian, portuguese are all in the latin branch of languages. yet, they`ve got their distinctive features and those should not be mistaken. english btw is in the germanic branch :) latin and germanic branches are all in the indo-european family of languages. just sharing some basic stuff i learnt at geography in primary school :)
isthatu2  4 | 2692  
11 Apr 2008 /  #494
wow,your entertainment value is superb sucubus :) Another know all ,rich little daddies girl,,"ooh,I went to private school" ,blah,I went to state school and learnt 2 languages,French and German,I spoke Spannish fluently as a small child when we lived there....,I took night classes in Russian (which,consequently helped me learn the basics of your language,not to mention I can understand Croatian and Ukranian to a small extent),mind you,moot point as I'm a Scot but,Ive lived most of my life in England and the picture you paint is completly laughable. Funny though,whwn I was In Warsaw I struggled to find anyone who was Bi lingual other than the family I stayed with,most conversations were along the lines of the hunchback monk in The Name of The Rose,ie a weird mix of Polish,french and German.....
brazilii  8 | 97  
11 Apr 2008 /  #495
I was In Warsaw I struggled to find anyone who was Bi lingual other than the family I stayed with

Are you sure you`ve been in Warsaw???
isthatu2  4 | 2692  
11 Apr 2008 /  #496
Ive been in Warsaw quite a few times actually old bean,Its rather hard to cross your legs for a fortnight at a time..........Maybe what you ment to ask was are you sure you have been to Warsaw? Well,d'urh,yes,and I even had to use my teeny smattering of Arabic once. Maybe its different with the young uns,but people my age group,30 ish if they did speak a different language it was German or Russian.
brazilii  8 | 97  
11 Apr 2008 /  #497
Maybe what you ment to ask was are you sure you have been to Warsaw

Sorry, That`s what I MEANT to say.
isthatu2  4 | 2692  
11 Apr 2008 /  #498
nice catch brazilii :)
isthatu 2,dyslexic in half a dozen languages including his own :)
Seanus  15 | 19666  
12 Apr 2008 /  #499
Neither Latin, French nor German wrote Kilkline. Bush said sth similar and it reached the exalted status of a Bushism. Good on ye lad, guffaw!!
ShelleyS  14 | 2883  
14 Apr 2008 /  #500
not sure if i understand what you are talking about O_o

No surprise there then :)

any ideas?

You miss quoted me and btw I speak enough Spanish to order food and get about and my mate who's apartment I visit speaks fluent Spanish
incubus  1 | 146  
14 Apr 2008 /  #501
ok, that`s the two of you then, what about the rest?
ShelleyS  14 | 2883  
14 Apr 2008 /  #502
My parents speak Greek and my niece speak French & Spanish and my brothers speak French and German and Latin!...In fact most if not all of my friends speak at least one other language....You see, as I keep saying, it all depends on the people you know, you obviously are going off the stereotypical family that visit Benidorm! maybe they are the kind of people you know....but as its also been stated, the English are not under pressure to speak another language since everyone is desparate to speak ours!
isthatu2  4 | 2692  
14 Apr 2008 /  #503
She has a valid point,last time I was in Krakow I was sat on the hotel steps smoking an LM ,near by were a group of Sweddish teens and Polish teens chattig away and flirting with each other,guess what,they werent speaking Polish or Sweddish but,yep,English.
incubus  1 | 146  
14 Apr 2008 /  #504
yeah, that`s because english is so bloody easy to learn :) and also it`s just about everywhere you go. it`s in the music and the movies. that`s how i started learning - by listening to music. at first, of course i didn`t have a clue what the artists were singing about and when i was trying to sing along i was making up funny sounds, it`s kind of funny when i look back at it. also one of my primary school friends went to live in london with his parents back in 1995 for a year and when he came back and i knew he could speak english, i found out that he also liked the band bon jovi (my childlhood heroes :P) i asked him whether he could understand the lyrics and when he said yes, i was like `woooooooow` and i had little stars in my eyes...
ShelleyS  14 | 2883  
14 Apr 2008 /  #505
and also it`s just about everywhere you go. it`s in the music and the movies. that`s how i started learning - by listening to music.

So what is the point you are trying to make??? That English is widely spoken? Yep that's been covered more than once!

yeah, that`s because english is so bloody easy to learn :)

Is that why most foreigners cant get the simple things like tense correct...yeah must be really easy :) Just because someone says "yeah I speak English" is doesn't mean for one moment that they actually speak it properly! There's a big difference...
incubus  1 | 146  
14 Apr 2008 /  #506
So what is the point you are trying to make??? That English is widely spoken? Yep that's been covered more than once!

i`m not trying to make any points :)

Is that why most foreigners cant get the simple things like tense correct...yeah must be really easy :) Just because someone says "yeah I speak English" is doesn't mean for one moment that they actually speak it properly! There's a big difference...

yeah usually the native english speakers make mistakes as well. but if you try to compare how difficult and complex other languages are compared to english you wouldn`t be so surprised why i called english easy.
ShelleyS  14 | 2883  
14 Apr 2008 /  #507
yeah usually the native english speakers make mistakes as well.

I'm sure they do, as I am sure that Polish people make mistakes in their own language!

i`m not trying to make any points :)

Really? so why have you been banging on trying to make a point that the English are incapable of speaking another language and by and large calling the national lazy!
isthatu2  4 | 2692  
14 Apr 2008 /  #508
why i called english easy.

It may be "easy " to learn the basics,far from it to use it well.You do realise English has the largest vocabulary of any on the planet dont you?
incubus  1 | 146  
14 Apr 2008 /  #509
Really? so why have you been banging on trying to make a point that the English are incapable of speaking another language and by and large calling the national lazy!

i`m generalising. as a nation the british are perceived that way by other nations, these characteristics are viewed as your flaws just like being an intolerant alcoholic thief is what usually is perceived by other nations to be typically polish. i`m not saying it`s right cuz generally speaking generalising is not a possive thing cuz it causes intolerance but if pseudo-people like noimmigration can complain about the polish i can complain about the british (the only difference being that i don`t actually hate the british :)

I'm sure they do, as I am sure that Polish people make mistakes in their own language!

yap, probably polish people make more mistakes cuz polish is a difficult language even to its natives.

It may be "easy " to learn the basics,far from it to use it well.You do realise English has the largest vocabulary of any on the planet dont you?

i didn`t know that. however vocabulary is one thing, the grammar, pronounciation, spelling etc is another - you can learn extended vocabulary if you`re determined enough but you might find it difficult for your tongue not to `break` while you`re learning to pronounce a polish sentence: ` w strzebrzeszynie chrzaszcz brzmi w trzcinie` - just a little tease :P

the only difficulty i personally find with english is that it has no logic (for example the lack of spelling - pronounciation rules) and i am perfectly aware that i don`t speak it correctly :)
OP noimmigration  
14 Apr 2008 /  #510
(the only difference being that i don`t actually hate the british :)

incubus you are living in MY country, if you dont like it go back to your ex soviet bloc, eastern european, concrete jungle.

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