Raising the minimum wage would be a stupid idea. It should rise in line with inflation. 5.85 is over 20PLN. There are quite a few Poles here that would be happy to make that. It's a decent hourly rate for some here. Why should a fish filleter get any more than that?
Not all is bad for Poles in Scotland!
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17 Jul 2010 / #92
the kids are paid by tax credits but jsa comes from tax payers money
I will wager you are getting far more from the state than you are paying.
Many Poles just quietly get on with their jobs, safe in the knowledge that they know what they are doing.
this is why many my friends are poles and i work wiht them long time now they are family orientated and work for much less than we would so they aint so bad they just get done what is needed to do and some of them send money home to provide for familys only differnece with us and them is some are away from tehir kids by 100,s of miles
[quote=Seanus]Times have changed and getting a job is a major undertaking for many graduates. It's all very well saying that they should get a job but free will only goes so far. Not all of us can walk into jobs paying 100 grand a year or 500 grand a year. There has to be realism. Trust me, I've known many well-qualified people (with postgrads and great management exp) that have struggled. Luck was on their side in the end.
i feel sorry for those folk teachers i think are in there and i dont feel it isfair for all the years of hard ork dosent get to pay off am not heartles honestly and think things should be changed to help folk in those circumstances as they shouldnt let the courses be ran if they cant guarrantee them work xxxx[/quote]
Not at all.
Read then: theinternetpatrol.com/studies-find-internet-web-use-makes-people-rude/
The internet doesn't show how you'd be in a class, let's say.
I'd be how I'm expected to be. I certainly would not tell my teacher what I think about him (well, maybe in some extreme cases) :)
You still haven't got the wind-up notion yet
I think I've got enough :)
as you over-analyse things.
No, I don't :)
You love to tattle, admit it?
No, but I like to disclose two-faced people :)
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17 Jul 2010 / #95
[quote=Seanus]Times have changed and getting a job is a major undertaking for many graduates
68 graduates for every graduate position isn't it now?
listen i earn too much money to be honest and never had to use government pay outs but its just because i have been fortunate enough to be in the same employment , both military and civie
[/quote]
Then look at the bigger picture, if your earning £50k or £100k not everyone else can, there always has to be someone to be a bin man, warehouse worker or shop worker and they will get payed less than you but that doesn't mean they should be paid poorly.
The only solution to that is communism which nobody wants.
I will wager you are getting far more from the state than you are paying.
i dont think i could possibly be considering with military and civie jobs i dont need to i earn too much to get anything from them .. i even pay my prescriptions and everything that other folk have to . dont tar me you think because i single parent i need hand outs i dont see too many labels put on folk
BE, I believe it is around there, yes. I believe those stats have been verified through extensive corroboration/cross-checking.
answers.yahoo, LOL. Boom went your credibility, Paulina. Now, if you don't mind, Brits are having a serious discussion here. Have you even been to Scotland?
Oh, your English is very good, Paulina. I can say that much. However, friendly advice. It's 'expose' and not 'disclose'. You'd disclose your income, for example. Or public disclosure :) Hope that helped :)
answers.yahoo, LOL. Boom went your credibility, Paulina. Now, if you don't mind, Brits are having a serious discussion here. Have you even been to Scotland?
Oh, your English is very good, Paulina. I can say that much. However, friendly advice. It's 'expose' and not 'disclose'. You'd disclose your income, for example. Or public disclosure :) Hope that helped :)
Then look at the bigger picture, if your earning £50k or £100k not everyone else can, there always has to be someone to be a bin man, warehouse worker or shop worker and they will get payed less than you but that doesn't mean they should be paid poorly.
The only solution to that is communism which nobody wants.
The only solution to that is communism which nobody wants.
i am fortunate to have both incomes but dosent mean evrything is good and my mates a bin man and he manages quite good but if i lost one of my jobs tomorrow then thats a problem i have to face but i know what you mean the national minimum wage is not nearly enough for folk
quote=time means]I will wager you are getting far more from the state than you are paying.[/quote]
i dont think i could possibly be considering with military and civie jobs i dont need to i earn too much to get anything from them .. i even pay my prescriptions and everything that other folk have to . dont tar me you think because i single parent i need hand outs i dont see too many labels put on folk
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17 Jul 2010 / #99
i dont think i could possibly
4x family allowance plus child tax credits maybe even working tax credits as well and what about the kids education?
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17 Jul 2010 / #100
It should rise in line with inflation. 5.85 is over 20PLN.
The point is seanus this isn't poland, 20 PLN means nothing to the british worker because everything is in pounds here and its far more expensive. The minimum wage was to low to start and its still to low now which is why one of the scottish councils made it a policy to only pay a minimum of £7 per hour.
I was doing equivalents, BE. The reality is that other ancillary costs have shot up. 7 pounds seems good if it matches the equal pay for equal work criteria. That's another dimension. Some council workers are useless sods so they can be thankful for getting even 7 quid per hour.
answers.yahoo, LOL. Boom went your credibility, Paulina.
My credibility? LOL Oh, Seanus, you're so childish :) Many people using the internet noticed the same thing I did, it's not a big discovery, really :) Did you even read those links I gave you (except for the "answers.yahoo" :))? :)
Now, if you don't mind, Brits are having a serious discussion here.
I don't mind :)
Have you even been to Scotland?
No. There was a time when I wanted to visit Scotland but not any more.
It's 'expose' and not 'disclose'. You'd disclose your income, for example. Or public disclosure :) Hope that helped :)
Ah, I knew you "disclose" something not someone but I couldn't find the right word :P Thanks :)
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17 Jul 2010 / #103
No. There was a time when I wanted to visit Scotland but not any more.
Why not?
Too sunny for you :-)
4x family allowance plus child tax credits maybe even working tax credits as well and what about the kids education?
where the **** do you get that i get tax credits i am over the threshhold for tax credits and for your information tax credit is not a benefit so check your facts and my child benefit goes to nspcc as i cant get them to stop it because i dont need it but they make it hard to stop as they just say anyone with kids is entitled but we dont all need it
Those links are as pointless as punching your own teeth, Paulina. Those personality thingies are not worth the effort. Look for my dissertation or thesis on the net, then you'll see what I'm about :)
OK, you don't want to visit Scotland, fair enough.
Childish or child-like? :) :) Far from either really.
The Poles have black pudding which is close to kaszanka here. That can't be too bad for them :) Besides, they have Irn-Bru, a soft drink that Doda advertised.
OK, you don't want to visit Scotland, fair enough.
Childish or child-like? :) :) Far from either really.
The Poles have black pudding which is close to kaszanka here. That can't be too bad for them :) Besides, they have Irn-Bru, a soft drink that Doda advertised.
Why not?
Dtaylor5632 wrote that there are many people like Seanus over there :O
And after reading this forum I'll stay away from the British Isles in general.
Those links are as pointless as punching your own teeth, Paulina.
Why pointless?
Look for my dissertation or thesis on the net, then you'll see what I'm about :)
Wha?
Childish or child-like? :) :)
Childish - dziecinny.
Far from either really.
I know, I know, in your eyes you're Mr. Perfect :)))
Poles also do well on housing lists. The local councils know that they can get the cash together as they live together in large numbers. The difference is that Scottish areas tend to be a bit rougher. I can walk in almost any part of Gliwice and feel safe. Kraków? Maybe not but I'd still feel safer than in some of Aberdeen's worst parts.
Seanus (ignoring the obsessive stalker, Paulina. Deeze nuts are taken)
Seanus (ignoring the obsessive stalker, Paulina. Deeze nuts are taken)
Seanus (ignoring the obsessive stalker, Paulina. Deeze nuts are taken)
Ah, no more arguments left, I see :]
Ok, enough. Paulina, go get yourself a boyfriend in a box and play with it, keep you calm for a while and Seanus, go take care of your vegetable garden or go plant a fruittree. Or go dance some pagan's dance or whatever.
>^..^<
M-G (jeezes krist)
>^..^<
M-G (jeezes krist)
How many residents of PF actually live in Scotland? How do you feel about your personal safety? I'm always on my guard when in Glasgow. There are some chancers and fools there. It can be bad when you are guilty by association and there is a belief amongst some that immigrants are causing problems. Some lash out :( :(
Seanus (still ignoring the bored little lady and following the PF rules, right on topic)
PS No, Paulina, I won't be your client either:
tube8.com/erotic/paulina-erotic-massage/5878
LOL. No thanks :) ;) ;)
Seanus (still ignoring the bored little lady and following the PF rules, right on topic)
PS No, Paulina, I won't be your client either:
tube8.com/erotic/paulina-erotic-massage/5878
LOL. No thanks :) ;) ;)
How many residents of PF actually live in Scotland? How do you feel about your personal safety? I'm always on my guard when in Glasgow. There are some chancers and fools there. It can be bad when you are guilty by association and there is a belief amongst some that immigrants are causing problems. Some lash out :( :(
i think any where you lvie there re always undesirables some have nothing better to do than bully and pick on folk makes them feel big . i think if they cant behave like men or women then they should be put back to where they come from
What if they are from that area, tab? Where do you put such people that are native to that place?
in jail hahaha i would . teach them a lesson, they would get beat every day or any other punishments they do to others xxxxxx
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17 Jul 2010 / #114
where the **** do you get that i get tax credits i am over the threshhold for tax credits
Part time cafe work must pay well oh yes and you are a weekend warrior as well. I didn't know the TA paid that well.
and my child benefit goes to nspcc
Lol sure it does.
I'll stay away from the British Isles in general
It's a great place to visit. Your thoery is pretty flawed if you took notice of some of the tools on here no would visit Poland at all :-)
Tab, jail tends to harden people in Scotland. They can turn into repeat offenders due to the sheer anger of what they had to endure in prison. Quite the ordeal I imagine!
Flawed logic abound ;)
Flawed logic abound ;)
[quote=time means]Part time cafe work must pay well oh yes and you are a weekend warrior as well.
I didn't know the TA paid that well.no you silly little man i dont do cafe work i work with adults who have learning difficulties and special needs that are not capable to do things on their own . you are ******* rude to presume alot about me . see stereo typing again, do you seriously think all single parents work in cafes dont be so ******* naieve. adn it does go to charity . what do you do for britain i know i have done my bit i have been to iraq and afghanistan to fight for our country and weekend warrior you live in the dark ages if you think we dont do much , many ta and regulars have died fighting for this place so shut the **** up about things you dont know oh i guess you watched it on telly didnt you sorry but where my jobs and the TA are invlved you cant say **** all . what exactly do you do then ????? you a bin man or on dole you seem to have a lot to say so lets hear what you do thats so great , i lost my best friend in iraq so dont say ****all about ta
SEANUS
i would like to see them in for life to make sure the folk they inflict
upon have the satisfaction of knowing they wont be out again and beaten every day would be a perk of the job especially folk who beat women . kids etc they need hung i think xxxxxxxxxx im no sadist though xxxxxx
I didn't know the TA paid that well.no you silly little man i dont do cafe work i work with adults who have learning difficulties and special needs that are not capable to do things on their own . you are ******* rude to presume alot about me . see stereo typing again, do you seriously think all single parents work in cafes dont be so ******* naieve. adn it does go to charity . what do you do for britain i know i have done my bit i have been to iraq and afghanistan to fight for our country and weekend warrior you live in the dark ages if you think we dont do much , many ta and regulars have died fighting for this place so shut the **** up about things you dont know oh i guess you watched it on telly didnt you sorry but where my jobs and the TA are invlved you cant say **** all . what exactly do you do then ????? you a bin man or on dole you seem to have a lot to say so lets hear what you do thats so great , i lost my best friend in iraq so dont say ****all about ta
SEANUS
i would like to see them in for life to make sure the folk they inflict
upon have the satisfaction of knowing they wont be out again and beaten every day would be a perk of the job especially folk who beat women . kids etc they need hung i think xxxxxxxxxx im no sadist though xxxxxx
So remind us all who has the power to open up the markets to cheaper imports?.
Remind us who bought those imports
Yeh iam sure all the coal miners just gave up their jobs after the near civil war they fought just so they could have cheaper coal from poland.
I'm sure they thought that the price of coal was just right, but clothing and food was too expensive! Kind of the same thinking of the dairy farmer... milk is priced correctly, but energy is wayyyy too expensive....
Its true that some are just idle, every country has people like this but not everyone has that attitude. A good start would be raising the minimum wage which is one of the lowest in western europe, if french companies have to pay 9 euros an hour then why do ours only have to way £5.85
Not a problem, just lay off the corresponding percentage of the workforce, or raise the prices for consumers.
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17 Jul 2010 / #118
no you silly little man i dont do cafe work i work with adults who have learning difficulties and special needs that are not capable to do things on their own . you are ******* rude to presume alot about me
Why does it say occupation "soldier and cafe worker" on your profile?
iraq and afghanistan
Come on the nearest you have been to these places is probably a local curry house of similar name. And to be honest i don't think you are a native Brit and the nearest you get to TA is with a E in the middle.
Why does it say occupation "soldier and cafe worker" on your profile?
it shouldnt do as i have been doing my job for long time
Come on the nearest you have been to these places is probably a local curry house of similar name. And to be honest i don't think you are a native Brit and the nearest you get to TA is with a E in the middle
dont you think you should get a gripyou know the TA have been over there for the last god knows how many years oh **** sorry your too busy watching crap about "families with 40 for food " yeah its highly ******* interesting when the british army doing their job . i would like to see you voice your opinion of the TA to the families who have lost loved ones there are not many ta soldiers who havent been over there so go take your face for a ****
Come on the nearest you have been to these places is probably a local curry house of similar name. And to be honest i don't think you are a native Brit and the nearest you get to TA is with a E in the middle
i was born in london my parents were in the army so dont ******* tell me im no native
you may not be thats why you no practically fuckall about the army adn other thigs you have ******* about today
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17 Jul 2010 / #120
there are not many ta soldiers who havent been over there
But you are not one of them :-)
it shouldnt do as i have been doing my job for long time
But it does. Anyway put the kettle on whilst we chat :-)