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Refusal of service and "black lists" in Warsaw, Poland


Commie Hater  
4 Jun 2016 /  #1
Some years ago I stayed at a hostel in Warsaw. I was a frequent guest and thought that I had acquired some goodwill with the management. Alas, I had some billing dispute and it now appears that my name has been added to a black list. The hostel in question is no longer in business, but my name is on the black list from almost 10 years ago. Any advice on how this works? I presently stay in better and more expensive places, but I am concerned about what exactly the witch wrote about me. I may want to get a Polish lawyer, since the ECJ ruled that it violates people's privacy rights to keep information about a person in a database forever.
jon357  73 | 23112  
4 Jun 2016 /  #2
since the ECJ ruled that it violates people's privacy rights to keep information about a person in a database forever.

It would also be potentially illegal in Poland to retain such data without your consent.

The hostel in question is no longer in business, but my name is on the black list from almost 10 years ago.

The 'black list' is still being used by someone? Who is using it?

I may want to get a Polish lawyer

Expensive and ultimately probably fruitless, unless you've got a copy of said blacklist.
peterweg  37 | 2305  
4 Jun 2016 /  #3
EU data protection laws should apply.

This is Polands law - uk.practicallaw.com/6-520-7945?service=fs#a952860

Basically personal identification data can only be used for the purpose it was collected. You have a right to see any data a company may have on you for a small fee. Any errors must be corrected on demand.

A company can be prosecuted if they don't comply with Data Protection law,
OP Commie Hater  
4 Jun 2016 /  #4
Many hostels in Warsaw. (I could start a list of them!) I have heard the list discussed many times. These hostels cooperate to some extent to find beds for people when they're overbooked, and apparently sharing a list of problem guests arose out of that and communist era traditions. To some extent, I understand their concerns. Do you really want to share a room with someone who got so drunk that he just peed on the floor? People having sex in the common areas is another area that is likely illegal and quite rude. Those who are more discreet and disappear together into a toilet or shower should have a presumption of privacy, even at a hostel. However, they still need to pay when they break the sink off the wall.

The 'black list' is still being used by someone? Who is using it?

I don't think that it would be a problem to prove that they are keeping a blacklist. I have enough emails and can name names if needed. They have plainly admitted to it.

Expensive and ultimately probably fruitless, unless you've got a copy of said blacklist.

Thank you for posting the link. During my time here before, I saw enough of the communist era mentality still openly manifested. As the market expands, those doing stupid things get punished my the competition. I suspect that unless there is some exception for hostel owners, that there was some commie style bribery involved. I highly doubt that any of this has been registered. I will start writing emails to some of the hostels involved and possibly also booking services to alert them to the declared practice of blacklisting. (I have never had a problem with booking, but I also don't book shared rooms anymore.)

If they don't comply, I should forward this to the police or directly to the prosecutor's office?

A company can be prosecuted if they don't comply with Data Protection law,

peterweg  37 | 2305  
4 Jun 2016 /  #5
Contact these giodo.gov.pl to find out what you need to do.

Mind you, they can refuse to serve you if they want.

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