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Muslim tourist visiting Poland - safety concerns


Chemikiem  
4 Nov 2015 /  #31
I'm pleased you've decided to go Intan, sure you will have a great time. Poland is a beautiful country with plenty to see and do :-)
Honest Pole  
6 May 2016 /  #32
To all muslims reading this It's not fully safe to wear headscarves. Some muslim women were harassed.
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Pakistan_Lahore  - | 19  
6 May 2016 /  #33
My question is; do you think it would be safe for us to travel in Poland, concerning islamophobia?

Poles are generally educated people, I never heard in my entire life about Islamophobia or something similar, especially from educated Poles. "Islamophobia" is a Media word, but in real life Poles never discuss with you on such a topic.

Yes there are young trolls, like skin heads, sometime they made mistakes, as in every culture, but altogether they are calm and religious people. Due to their Religion they hardly try to hurt you. Like Italians, Poles have family system too.

All I wanted to say "Respect begets Respect" my Dear!
Honest Pole  
6 May 2016 /  #34
My question is; do you think it would be safe for us to travel in Poland, concerning islamophobia?

Well racism and xenophabia increased greatly in the last 2 years so I don't think it's really safe to be in Poland at this point if are darkskinned because you can be mistaken for arabs, refugees or simply because you were a foreigner or a muslim. Indians, pakistanis, sikhs, turks and even south europeans were already attacked and beaten.

aljazeera.com/indepth/features/2015/12/witch-hunt-poland-barely-visible-refugees-151201111826928.html

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Pakistan_Lahore  - | 19  
6 May 2016 /  #35
So why Poles are bearing the Refugees, why because of EU?

Can't you people take any serious actions against EU? Quit EU thast it, if German wants than they can bear them, but why would you? Let Poland for Poles only, as it was before
Honest Pole  
6 May 2016 /  #36
So why Poles are bearing the Refugees

They aren't bearing at least not those EU wanted. There a few that come on their on their own apparently though 99% of victims aren't refugees.
Pakistan_Lahore  - | 19  
6 May 2016 /  #37
And what steps you are taking as a citizen of Poland, you have democracy there.

I admit 99% except Syrians are so called Financial Refugees, in Pakistan people are earning good money now a days, in Indian too, economy is getting better day by day. Poles must not accept refugees from Pakistan, Indian or Bangladesh, no need trust me.

So what steps Poles will take to solve this problem. Or how will you people solve this problem. Believe me if Afghans come to Pakistan again due to Refugees, Pakistanis get angry with there government and come on the street and protest against Government. Me either, how can I accept other nation, that blast Pakistani's economy? If we haven't got enough food at home, how could we help others. Thats why Hate rise
Honest Pole  
6 May 2016 /  #38
Pakistan, Indian or Bangladesh

Definitely people from these countries aren't refugees and people in linked articles weren't either.
Pakistan_Lahore  - | 19  
6 May 2016 /  #39
I understand, but Poles must try to find a solution, hate is not the reply, Humans are humans, peace and harmony must remain in our Heart, it is important. I understand people could lose their patients, as I told you before, If I have no food at home, how can I help others?
Kezcaisim  1 | 37  
6 May 2016 /  #40
Humans are humans

Funny. You come from a country where raping children and women for no real reason isn't frowned upon, where Islamic extremism is condoned.

**** off with your hypocrisy.
Pakistan_Lahore  - | 19  
8 May 2016 /  #41
Yes tell me this story after an year, when Russian tries to enter the Polish terrotories. I would be pleased to listen :)
kpc21  1 | 746  
9 May 2016 /  #42
I would say it's a fault of all the extremist and terrorist organisations, who are mostly muslim, that muslims are here in Poland seen as they are. But it's even difficult to call it a fault - for me it looks deliberate.

The true is that humans and humans, and also muslims are normal people, they even believe in the same only God as christians. But explain it to simple people, who see on TV that muslims (not christians, not jews, not buddists - but muslims) are making terrorist attacks, that muslims rape women in big European cities on New Year's Eve (I am not saying whether it was true or not, I say what media were showing), that muslims break into trucks on French-British border to illegally cross the border, that muslims make turmoils in camps for refugees, that muslims massively move to European countries saying they are refugees even if they aren't. I don't say people of other religions don't do that. This is just what the mass media show - even not the TV (on the main news on the Polish public TV, in the time when the "refugees" topic was very popular, they were even showing, every day, the life of the real, not fake, refugees from Syria, coming to Europe as refugees fully legally - to show people that real refugees also exist), but mostly the Internet.

It's definitely not fair that because of a relatively small group of idiots who either don't know how to behave, or do it deliberately, the muslims who are just normal people and don't look for any conflict are discriminated. Or even not only muslims, but any foreign-looking people, especially those with a skin darker than typical for Poland. There is also a group of Polish people, originating mostly from the football (soccer) fans/hooligans society, who as well look for conflict with any foreigners, saying they are patriots and they want to protect Poland (as if the conflicts with the fans of the opposite football clubs weren't enough). But what can we do about that?

I would say, muslims have these dzhihadists, extremists and terrorists, as well as fake refugees and other "naughty guys", and first they have to do something with them.
Marsupial  - | 871  
9 May 2016 /  #43
I would say its the fault of the muslims who get busted here planning attrocities weekly. Or is the ones who wear blankets over their whole body and try to tell us it's clothing that we ridicule daily? Martians would be more acceptable.
Honest Pole  
9 May 2016 /  #44
Thats why Hate rise

Well Afghani refugees are persecuted in Pakistan despite having very similar culture and looking similar(although afghans are lighter skinned) and Pakistani government is using every excuse possible to deport them.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afghans_in_Pakistan#Persecution_and_discrimination
afghanistan-analysts.org/the-refugee-dilemma-afghans-in-pakistan-between-expulsion-and-failing-aid-schemes/
america.aljazeera.com/articles/2015/11/18/afgh an-refugees-in-pakistan-facing-fear-and-discrimination.html
aljazeera.com/news/asia/2015/01/afghan-refugees-deportation-pakistan-20151217595569540.html
Pakistan_Lahore  - | 19  
9 May 2016 /  #45
@kpc21

Wearing black, brown beard, saying Allah hu Akbar, killing people in the name of Islam, doesn't bother me. I have understood one thing, that media needs stories and what could be a better story to spread hate against each other? ISIS photoes, videos are allowed in the media, but normal Muslims, or Chirstian, Hindus, Budah videos is allowed like they way they are sponsering ISIS? I think $$$ Games, thats it. In Todays world everything is possible.

@Marsupial

"Or is the ones who wear blankets"

Yes before "men wearing blankets" were the sons of the US and the US's Government had officially given them the Title "Sons of America", now why the hell their Father is deniying to call them his sons again???

"I would say its the fault of the muslims who get busted here planning attrocities weekly"

Nope muslims were not involved in breaking the Soviet Union, it was the perfect plan of the US.

@Honest Pole Afghans fighters were made by the US, not by us. The time is over now and they should go home now.
kpc21  1 | 746  
9 May 2016 /  #46
Wearing black, brown beard, saying Allah hu Akbar, killing people in the name of Islam, doesn't bother me.

I believe you, and for sure many people also think so... But how to explain it to the whole society?

I think $$$ Games, thats it.

Definitely, it's always the case.

If someone likes to wear blankets, it's definitely nothing bad in that, as long as he accepts that other people in the country dress up in a different way. If someone forces his wife to hide the head - it will not be accepted in Europe, because it's just breaching the basic human rights. If the wife does it according to her free will, then it's ok. The problem is that sometimes it might be dificult to decide where is the border.
Pk2016  - | 3  
11 Jun 2016 /  #47
Hi , i am from pakistan , me and my wife next week gona be visiting Europe ( including poland warsaw) . I don't have bread and my wife is not wearing headscarf or burka , from the yesterday i am reading these articals and i am really surprising shocked that there is so much hate about muslims , even i saw many harshly videos on YouTube, next weekend we will gona be there, should we skip warsaw tour? becoz we don't want to be victims or any danger, its sounds like a warzone .
dany_moussalli  13 | 259  
11 Jun 2016 /  #48
becoz we don't want to be victims or any danger, its sounds like a warzone .

It's not that brutal, Warsaw should be ok since it's summer time and there are many tourists. But there's always a slight possibility that someone on the street will give you "weird" looks, or even say something about you in Polish (you wouldn't even notice, since you don't speak polish)
Pk2016  - | 3  
11 Jun 2016 /  #49
Well , honestly i was very excited and happy to visit warsaw but all of this i just read the facts about poles make me feel uncomfortable, i think we should stay in hotel not go outside ??? Is there any uber in warsaw plz??? I dont want to travel in public transport maybe somebody can hit us , any suggestions to protect ourselves???
rozumiemnic  8 | 3875  
11 Jun 2016 /  #50
to be honest if you are unbearded and your wife doesnt wear the hijab, I dont think any attention will be drawn to you.
Pk2016  - | 3  
11 Jun 2016 /  #51
by the way my wife is eurpeon , i just wanted to be sure that maybe ppls give a bad look on us or attack . Becoz its our honeymoon tour and i dont want anyone destroy it . I just wanted to be sure, thanks.

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