Poland - never again

I think that the problem arose in the first place because some of you on this forum have become too intimate with each other.

Rofl FBI?? Please... yeah because even on their slowest day they have nothing more important to do...


Says the guy who talks a ton of sh1t about polish people and calls our independence day celebrations a wankfest, calls polish people stupid and backwards amongst other things... but only online of course because you know if you said that to any polish guy around your commie block youd get stomped. You would never dare call independence day a wank fest to your neighbors and fellow poles, least of all a polish stranger and you know it. If any of your 60 zloty an hour clients knew about the things you said I bet theyd never do business with you again. Even with all your complaining about Poland you wouldn't leave because you know that no other country can give you the same level of a good cheap life and a high degree of safety from the regular cultural enrichment happenin.

You can still get whooping cough even if you are vaxxed. Same with flu, meningitis, etc. So no, the vaxxing doesnt make a difference.

And its thanks so whooping cough vaccines that the.whole no fault laws were passed. Till a company takes responsibility for damages caused by a product they make esp one they expect people to inject, no thanks...


Had it done in poland back in prl times. They vaxx against diseases that are basically extinct or can be easily treated but not against hep b which is a hardcore disease.

Look if you want to inject viruses and thimerosal into your body be my guest. That's your right. However I prefer not to. I've never had tetanus, meningitis, and even flu for over 10 years. I'll trust my immune system over a product made for companies to make them a profit with no recourse should the side effects end up being paying deadly. Its like the bogus lamisil medicine - itll clear your yellow toe nails, but you might get seizures, strokes and even die... no thanks


Considering the chances of catching it is literally 17 in over 6 billion ill take my chances. Im statistically more likely to win the lottery than catch polio

He came in 1992. No big multinational IT companies in Poland back then. Hardly anyone had a home computer in 1992, and I doubt there were any Indians in Poland back then either.

They didn't need them they simply copied (cloned) their systems.

Just one I am familiar with below.

MERA-60 Cloned from the dec pdp11 series, op system stolen from the west (RSTS/E commercial applications RSX/RT11 scientific and more sinister military applications.

Programmers were very sought after especially those who lived in the west with commercial or military coding experience , there were some traitors who went to Poland during the cold war and made a great deal of money.

After 1989 once sanctions were lifted , Poland just simply bought the legitimate machines from the west.

But IT was very much alive in Poland during and after the cold war.

All the more reason to be wealthy today. Tons of opportunities as the market opened up. A property purchased for 30k back then would be easily worth a minimum of 1 mil zloty and even as high as 4 5 plus mil zs today.

And that's just properties let alone all the new companies coming in, the new stock market, the very lax tax and business law environment, etc. A person who came from the west to poland in 92 should be very wealthy even without a ton of formal business education and experience.


There were plenty of multinational corps in poland back then. Perhaps not it but plenty of other fields. And that's when the Marriott brigades started showing up from the west to invest in polands market.

But idc about that really. He chose his career so be it. What bothers me and should bother all poles on here and people with polish families, spouses, etc is that he calls poles stupid, backwards, and independence day celebrations a wank fest - a day that commemorates regaining our freedom after a century off the map and the innumerable lives lost in that struggle so we could have a free independent poland today. But he doesn't get that. And even if he doesnt he knows such things are very offensive to poles and he would never dare repeat them in public because he knows he'd get stomped, his polish friends and neighbors would hate him, and his polish students would neber come to him for tutoring if they knew the things hes said about them as polish people

So very true, it's like when the odd brit pisses up a war memorial to the fallen in the UK, the Police have to give them a new address and protection from the general population when they go to court.

You could not buy a house in those days without Ministry of interior permission.

You could not get a work permit for any old job - only in cases where there was a need or a missing skill, teaching English would be one such skill. It is an extremely valuable skill as it is help produce a management class in Poland who have been able to absorb lessons from the west and help develop Polish businesses that can be global.

The Marriott brigades that you denigrate were also people that had missing skills - economists, accountants, bankers, lawyers et cetera. The legacy today is that Poland has probably the strongest economy in the post communist world.

You have simply no idea what it was like to try and make a living in those times.

Doug seems a pretty well adjusted guy - If you're only method of valuing people is by the money they have then that is a sad and dispiriting way to view the world

If you think it was easy to make money in those days, maybe join Crow in Serbia and double your existing millions since that is a pretty good approximation of what poland was like in 1992.

I know filling out paperwork sucks but that's how people buy and sell especially property.


Yes I do because my family and i lived in poland throughout the 90s. I wasn't working as I was a kid in grade school but I was keenly aware of what problems people faced. Instability and poverty affects adults and kids all the same. Even in the mid to late 90s I followed the war in yugo everyday and aware of what was going on.


Those people did not stay in poland and contribute. They came in with capital, analyzed where the best roi was, and as long as there was good cash flow and their NPV calculations were on target with reality they didn't give a rats was about poland.


Is that why he constantly derides poland and calls poles backwards and stupid? Is that why he calls a celebration of regaining freedom after veing off the map for over a century a wank fest? Yet despite all his ragging on poland he won't leave because he knows he couldn't live nearly the same kind of life style and have the same degree of safety in the UK as in poland.

There's only one thing worse than being talked about, and that's not being talked about:)

And I am rich Dirk. I've got a beautiful daughter, who you also deemed fit to include in your recent stalking of my personal affairs. Now, when we talk about who would be bashing people, for casting aspersions as to my daughter, if you were around, I would in fact be likely asking you to stand up and take your punishment like a man :) :)

And I thought the context was always clear. I referred to the Polish nationalists who were awol from school and never bothered to learn anything about the past.

Why don't we split Poland into 2, like the Ukraine would split along the same kind of lines? You nationalists can have the mosquitoes and your precious forest, or what's left of it, and Krakow, and the educated masses can have the land west of Warsaw. You don't want it anyway, because it's tainted by being German in the past, and is not Polish enough right?

Or at least the majority of it's citizens are against what you stand for.

Get lost, you are not welcome in the west , pay a visit here and talk about nationalist scum and slag off patriotic marches, church parades, see how far you get.

you educated lol you would still be in the UK if your qualifications were up to it.

@Dougpol1

Not once did I ever get your daughter involved or contact her or anything like that and I can stay that with all honesty so stop lying.

Context shmontext... I know what you wrpte.. forget even about the nationalists or independence day. you called poles backward and stupid so **** you. But you'd never say that in person because you're a keyboard warrior. You know if you called your polish neighbors, your polish students, etc stupid and backward they wouldn't want to live next to you and definetely wouldnt want to do business with someone who thinks of polish people so low, regardless of their politics. And if you said that to a young patriotic man youd definetely be missing a few teeth.


We don't need that when we have ALL of poland. You forget pis is in charge and has 2-3x the support of 2nd place PO. And if you wish to change the situation and make your voice heard get your citizenship and vote


Seeing as how CBOS and other stat agencies say 3/4 of Poles reject migrants from me and africa and the majority of poles reject gay marraige I beg to differ.

Actually the majority of poles are againstbwhat you stand for - commies, uncontrolled third world migration, diminishing the importance of Christianity and its traditions, etc. That's why poles voted pis in. Pis and kukiz support together accounts for the majority of poles. PO camt even some close theyve been in the teens, getting close to the 20s (half to a third of pis support) the past few years. And actually even a slight majority of pis supporters also rejects migrants from me and africa accoeding to cbos.

If I did to you what some people have done to each other on here including to me, all your neighbors, potential student you want to tutor, every pole in your life would know your true feelings and hatred towards poles and theres plenty of.materkal for them to read. You're lucky I'm not going to take it to that level as I have better things to do. Nonetheless I will admit it does bother me that a person who hates poles so.mucb and constantly calls them stupid, backward, makes fun of poles. Its one thing to make fun of the government, but you make fun of all poles - the country where you live, your neighbors, students, etc

I can't help it that you have poor recall. You made a personal reference to her in an sms: I don't know about the traceability of the telephone number, but unlike you, I am not personally into all that and would let the authorities look into it instead if repeated.


I think you will find that the people who live in western Poland are against PIS. They solidly are in Tri-City as well, and so it's your gang who would have to do the hasty retreat.

Right - we're all clear then. Back to the bar?

Even the PO supporters would chase you out if they read the sick posts you make about Poland and its people.

Yeah I probably said something like that she gets her good looks from you. And if you want to tell that to the FBI like you said you would please do. I'm sure they'll kick my door in as soon as theyre done with the el chapo trial.

What a joke... whatever dude I've said my peace on this topic.


Perhaps. But even the majority of PO supporters are against third world migration. And their views are pretty socially conservative especially when compared to places like uk, sweden, germany, etc where they have women legally marrying dead pirate ghosts and children who are encouraged to cross dress and society hates hetero christians.

No PO supporter would like to be called backwards or stupid or have their country's struggle for independence made fun of.

No you do not. Four years ago you were fairly honest when you first joined the forum and gave your salary as just under 40,000 dollars a year plus commission of around another 20-30,000, so about 70,000 a year. Two years ago, you were talking about a dream of owning a convenience store and admitting to knowing nothing about the business laws in Poland. Now, you're worth 2 million dollars and own a house valued at 900,000 dollars? No bank would have given you a mortgage of that size with the salary you were earning. Knowing the way you inflate, exaggerate and lie outright, I expect that if the house exists at all, you're referring to your family home which your parents are selling, probably downsizing now that the kids have left home. And the reason I'm making an issue of it, is because you frequently attempt to childishly belittle other people on this forum, when you have no intelligent argument to make, by boasting about your so-called assets and suggesting that your fantasy vast wealth and self-made millionaire status, makes you superior to them. Grow up and stop being so silly.

As for you Dolno, you really do sound as daft as a brush these days. As a gentleman of the old Polish variety you have a responsibility to give guidance to the younger generation of the Polish diaspora, not encourage them in that kind of ignorant, rude, dishonest and obnoxious behaviour.

If you wish to make such a personal accusation then please describe how I have done this'

As for Doug he is quite simple one of the worst examples of a guest In Poland, Please do not deride people who are quoting from his OWN anti Polish words on this forum.

Or do you also think that Polish girls would still have hair legs if it were not for the EU, do you agree with him that Polish patriots celebrating their independence day are scum. do you shout down church parades from your tower block.

Get a grip Atch you are above defending Dougs abusive postings.

@Atch

What is it your concern? Yes my first job out of college was 80k a year and even before that i had a decent net worth built up from my time as a commodity broker and jobs I held in college that allowed me to graduate with no student debt and buy a little cheap condo for cash right out of school. Even 4 5 years I had other sources of income - investments which included an employee purchase program that was basically a guarunteed 10% roi as employees got a 10% discount off the current price amongst other things.

Salary is different from income and assuming you pay taxes youd kmow that. That 80k salary was just thr money i got from my day job at the time. As you know I am a co owner of a construction company (family business which ive been helping my dad out with for years and it brings in about 1 to 2 mil revenue a year) have investments, am a silent partner in a currency exchange, import/export goods to poland, among other things. Like I said, just my house and the pl property alone are 2 mil. Thats not counting around 80k cash savings, my e trade securities, cars, jewelry, etc.

Worry about building your own wealth. Not worry about what a stranger on a forum has.

When I sell the house atch youll be the first to receive a picture with $900k 850k or whateber it sells for in cash and my smiling face = ) I'll take it out the bank especially for you. No mortgage no car loans no student debt and even not a single credit card as I dont believe in living above my means and paying interest

Inflation on debt is the biggest scam the banks ever pulled...
I'd convert to Islam just for their sharia banking - zero interest loans

Na that don't work they just add it to the capital sum in most cases.

Actually if you notice I almost never am the one to first insult a person. Whenever I debate someone I do not use insults UNLESS they start with them first towards me. In fact when they do I point it out to them, explain how only ignorant people start with insulting others due to their lack of rhetorical devices. In fact, I just pointed that out even in the vaxxer thread.

Furthermore, notice that I dont even argue with theother cms harry or delph or jusy about anyone else for that matter even if their vie2s are the opposite of mine. However if they begin with insults I will point it out and respond in kind.

And if I'm in t the wrong I admit it and apologize


True. They call it 'profit' and its usually a fixed amount insteaf of interest. However my Pakistani friend told me some institutions do indeed charge far less than like a us bank with mortgage

Adrian, why don't you just go back and look at your posts from three and half years ago when you were telling the truth about yourself. You were wondering if you could have a decent lifestyle on a net monthly salary of around 7,000 zł and talked about teaching English part time to make extra cash whilst accepting that you wouldn't be able to save anything............and now you're worth 2 million dollars...............oh and you were going to live with your grandparents until you could afford to rent something :))

Why don't you be a dear and find them for me. You seem to care about it so much as thats all you've been posting about for days. I only write about this when people like you bother me about it. I prefer however to debate and discuss other topics in other threads. I'm sure you can pull your notes on everyone and find what I said and when.


Yes because Google offered me an 8k z a month base. Which I rejected....


Actually I wrote I had the option to live at an apartment my grandparents own that sits empty while I find a place.

And yes, much has happened in 3.5 years. Just look at all the bitcoin millionaires since last year alone. People.make and lose fortunes everyday.

Yes at the time I had an 80k a year salary job... I then left it for a territory manager job which is the one delph tried to get ke.fired from. During that entire time I was involved in the family business mainly doing marketing, sales, contracts, writing bids proposals invoices, working with the subs etc as my dad doesn't speak English and we split profits accordingly

Like I said atch, ill send you a pic of 900k in cash and my smiling face with a thumbs up.as soon as I sell the house


Your apology for calling poles backwards, stupid, etc.

Still care to have your neighbors and colleagues read your posts and decide for themselves??

Sorry to say this Dirk but I want to be clear for Atch that I am I no way egging you on


Yes I have a responsibility to defend my nation when people accuse my people of being backward, stupid and senseless let alone thugs..

No I know I'm aware. Doug talks sh1t about poles all the time. He can't help it. Now he's doing it less because people are calling him out more on it and the other brits arent jumping in to defend him and also talk sh1t about poles. And Lord knows he's not the only one to say some really bad thinfs about Poles. But still eben though Doug has toned it down he can't help himself - even yesterday he called poles senseless.

And yet he claims hes only talking about polish nationalists and polish government even though he clearly doesn't specify government or nationalists but rather paints poles all with the same brush.

Nothing he says is more negative than the things I hear Poles say every day, he's well assimilated.

It's only those marginal figures who are insecure about their Polishness (because they don't live here or don't have citizenship or whatever) that make a big deal about not criticising Poland, real Poles are well aware of the problems in the country and complain, loudly and clearly about them constantly.

Not about polish people. And even if so poles have that right to talk about other poles kind of like blacks habe the right to call each other n1gger.


Maybe according to the far left's new version of assimilation in Europe - no go zones, radical mosques, demands of crosses being taken down, not working and living off benefits, not speaking the language, etc.

Over 30 years in a country and not being fluent in its language and not having citizenship is not being 'well assimilated'


Yeah they're sick of all the eu meddling, the threat of migrants coming in and causing terror, rape, economic burden, etc that's why they vote for pis. Pis and kukiz account for majority of polish voters afterall.

stop using an important topic (on its own) as a cheap distraction

I have no idea how fluent he is, I think a person is fluent enough if they can deal with bureaucracy (and things like medical care) on their own without an interpreter and read newspapers and understand news broadcasts. is there evidence he can't do that?

And in the EU citizenship with a particular country is kind of a non-issue.

Well you said he's 'well assimilated.' I dont know what you're basing that on and compared to whom. Since generally people who can't speak the language in the country theyre in and dont have citizenship, much less after over 30 years, generally arent considered to be 'well assimilated by most people, so I can only wonder if the migrants flooding into europe - who also dont speak the language, have contempt for the natives of the country theyre in, hate the government system, etc are also 'well assimilated' by your definition and degree of assimilation.


I can work and live all over Europe as I am a eu citizen. Yet if I spent 30 years living in France or Germany and never mastered the language and neber made it past mere residency and never got the citizenship most german and French natives wouldn't consider me 'well assimilated' - theyd winder why after 30 years I still haven't bothered to master the language, especially for a college educated european like Doug. Its kind of like the migrants flowing into europe. Only difference if they've been there a few years and dont know the language, for Doug its over 30.

you?

Do you have enough millions in assets to ask?