Turkish guy to study at a university in Poland. Is that problem for Polish people?

Dolno, don't waste your time. Yer man's a complete looper as they'd say in Dublin. This place is chock full of fruit and nut cases. Go and tend your beautiful garden or something. 'Whatsoever things are lovely, think on these' :-)

"How do you know what lifestyle I have here in Poland , the above is the first post that I have made on this thread, can you explain why you think that I have a loser lifestyle?"

because of your changing subject i never talk about something expection about collage you are changing and maybe try to start new argue how can i know ? this is wrong im trying to say.

"Dolno, don't waste your time. Yer man's a complete looper as they'd say in Dublin. This place is chock full of fruit and nut cases. Go and tend your beautiful garden or something. 'Whatsoever things are lovely, think on these' :-)"

hay old man go to your bed dont play with young guys.dont worry in turkey you never imagine what we have ? Best kitchen in the world are place.Turkey is amazing everybody know that.Check out! and you are idi*t.keep changing subject keep eating sh.t

Thanks Atch, (Sadly Too wet for gardening it has been raining for two days now.)

It sounds like the guy is almost preparing to fail, or is here start some argument, but as a Pole living in Poland I will answer the title of this thread from my own personal experience.

There are many Turkish students and families living in Poland very successfully, we have a Turkish family in our small rural village, we talk the kids go to the local primary school, everyone waves when they drive down the road in the car, I have never heard anyone say a bad word about them, they are treated the same as any other Polish neighbor.

In the main town we have a few Turkish people running successful businesses full of Polish customers.

I was in Wroclaw (University town) at the weekend there were students and tourists from all over the world eating and drinking and walking until the late hours, everyone seemed to get on having a good time.

"Whatsoever things are lovely, think on these",
I do everyday when I wake up in Poland and think how luck I am.

lixt1 "keep eating sh.t"

I think you are a very rude, I do not believe that you are Turkish or if you are you sound like a football hooligan who is embarrassing his country, Don't worry too much we also have a minority random lunatics in Poland too.

"Thanks Atch, (Sadly Too wet for gardening it has been raining for two days now.)

It sounds like the guy is almost preparing to fail, or is here start some argument, but as a Pole living in Poland I will answer the title of this thread from my own personal experience.

There are many Turkish students and families living in Poland very successfully, we have a Turkish family in our small rural village, we talk the kids go to the local primary school, everyone waves when they drive down the road in the car, I have never heard anyone say a bad word about them, they are treated the same as any other Polish neighbor.

In the main town we have a few Turkish people running successful businesses full of Polish customers.

I was in Wroclaw (University town) at the weekend there were students and tourists from all over the world eating and drinking and walking until the late hours, everyone seemed to get on having a good time.

"Whatsoever things are lovely, think on these",

I do everyday when I wake up in Poland and think how luck I am."

so whats your problem to say "loser life style", what lifestyle are you expecting if you go to university n Poland?

who is talking about my collage expecting dont u understand ? if you try to tell me something bad you get bad words.Thats all.I'm arguing disgusting polish guys here.So do not try to teach me my people i know they are fine.So if you try to judge me you get bad answers thats all.

"I think you are a very rude, I do not believe that you are Turkish or if you are you sound like a football hooligan who is embarrassing his country"

you have really problem.after my response you gonna write 2 answers.why ? put every answers in one comment box.because you are obsessions about me because of my answers.i'm not worrying anything about i know whats going on your country.you cannot imagine who i am because you dont try to met me.so you deserve sh.t

So to sum up, Turkish students,visitors are very welcome in Poland, Turkey is a nice country (I have visited it a few times) and the Turkish people are friendly and welcoming.

lixt1 Maybe spending sometime in Poland will calm you down , there is no need to be on the defensive, as a Turkish guy there nothing for you to be afraid of here.

look you dont get it.i'm not afraid of anything.i just wonder and ask it.i'm repeat you dont get i'm already calm down.you cant make decision about me you dont know me.are u stupid ? explain this sentente why you are need to write something about my expection for collage ? explain this sentence.i hate arguing,fighting or stuff like these but some idio*s always starting argue i'm saying okay im arguing for years maybe whole my life thats fine.

Well so much for _that_ effort to cool things down....

@mafketis you are stupid too look at your comment negative because you are already start new argument.so fu.k you too

No worries mafketis I am just glad this guy is a troll and not a real Turkish guy, take a look at his first post where he claims to be a reader of RMF 24.

All highly unlikely as he is not Polish reader, would have been more credible if he had quoted a Turkish or English source, also his use of punctuation belies his attempts to write in broken English.

haha ugly troll show himself look at him.i believe you are syrian.escape from syria (coward).you are not read this post first place you just want chaos and bad thing like your heart.you want some reputation in this forum maybe in this post.and try to interrupt are conversation about collage.so i'm saying again you are loser f.ck.whatever bad english comes from loser brain like you.

"i believe you are syrian.escape from syria (coward)."

Looks as if you have issues with Syrians, which has nothing to do with the topic of this thread.

Have you anymore questions relating to ' study at a university in Poland" that we can help you with?, or should we consider the thread closed?

no i just give answer what you deserver thats all.i'm turkish guy and you are sad to me troll not a turkish guy.i have no problem with syrian.i change my mind you are member of loser f.ck community.i'm not racist like you.by the way expectation about collage not related with this topic.

yes i have question about collage and poland loser like you a lots of in poland or not ? so what's are next thread in this topic global warming or how to being a loser as we can see.

"loser like you a lots of in poland or not ? ".

Poland is no different to any European country, there are all sorts of different people here , I think that the majority of people in Poland are not losers, but I am a loser so it's best you come visit and find out for yourself.

Lixt1, could you please tell me what attracts you in Poland that you want to come here? I think you would feel much better if you go to Germany, France, UK etc. A lot of Turkish/ Muslims immigrants there and you will feel almost like at home.

Looks like things are suddenly improving in Turkey. Hopefully the coup will be a success and normality returns. Would that affect you coming to study here though?

Unlikely, but, hope springs eternal:-)

You never know the OP may be Erdogan looking for a safe haven after being tipped off.

is this kinda Egypt scenario?army vs radicals?not sure who is against who there?
geez,,another crisis,this could potentially be worse than Syria.Turkey has minorities problem and nukes
2days after massive nato summit..hmmm. someone decided there to get rid of erdogan?

Back on topic, please

I doubt there will be any immediate effect for Turkish citizens studying at universities in Poland or planning to come and study here, most of whom are likely to be sympathetic to it. It isn't the first time this has happened there, gregy741, nor even the second. Everything will be OK.

What may be an issue is people planning to return home or come here over the next few years. I had a look at the departures board at Istanbul Airport and most flights are deleayed indefinitely.

I suspect the OP is rather busy right now, and unlikely to comment, assuming there is currently web access.

Is that problem for Polish people?

No, not for the Polish people but no doubt the Muslim people because they are not generally welcome by the Polish people.
The Polish people do not want to bastardize their Catholic culture to Islam just like the rest of the world.
Pay no attention to the ex pats responses here but to the native Polish responses like the ones below.



That is a polite way of saying, "Please don't come to Poland."
If you are paying attention to the world news you will see that NO COUNTRY in the world want Muslims in theirs.
After your remarks about how dumb everyone is that responds to your defiance, Poland definitely would not be a good place for you to study because telling a Polish person that they are dumb might just get you a broken nose, or worse, no matter how fast you claim you are.

Now that is my answer to your question.
Glad to be of help and may God help us.

Looks like you should stay home and fix yer country.

Curse of decapitated Polish noble heads falling on Turkey. Desecration and mutilation of dead people, what was and is Turkish habit, bringing very bad karma. Turks should give heads back until isn`t too late. Heads must be buried with decency and dignity.

Give heads back!!!

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First of all I want to say hi to everyone who reads this... I m gonna study for 6 years in Poland. I m curious about what happened in past and also I m worried. Dont get me wrong please I m not trying to say racist to polish people, we all know media .Thats what i m influenced of.

Today I want to ask you about peoples thoughts. I m from Turkey,Istanbul. I m not muslim but people wont understand that by how I look. There are a lot of people who say they got punched a lot of times in the face on the streets,concerts and football matches with no reason.- I m sayýng again I m not trying to call polish people racist.- 'The attackers were bald and muscular.' A lot of them had mentioned about that.Also my friend was gonna get stabbed but thank to God a police officer saw them.By the way my friend didnt tell anything to them, he was working in the gym and those people saw him thats it.And I know ýt ýs weird..But of course this racism didnt built of just because of polish people. The strangers helped it out. I know a lotof stupid turkish guys too.( They live in Poland by the way) I m sorry for them.. Whatever as I mentioned there a lot of people who were verbal harassed And nobody helped them. It doest matter where they from.

The main thing is I want you to clarify all your feelings,thoughts. I m NOT MUSLÝM. But ýf you would see me on Street you wouldnt understand that.So without swearing tell me how you feel. Thanks for reading again... I have met some polish people in England and they were quite nice.Actually I m not worried of young people. Would drunk people hurt me in nights? Or those harley davidson looking guys?

I like Poland and Polish people. I was searching for one year then I found out this beatiful country . But honestly what do you think about that? And sorry if I made any mistakes. I m still trying to learn english

It doesn't matter if you are or aren't. Here in Warsaw there's quite a mix of people from many countries, especially in student communities, and you will be fine.

Just avoid large football crowds as you would doubtless also do in Istanbul or elsewhere. Far less organised racism than many places and you will see fewer such people here than you might see demonstrating in Istklal Caddesi.

Good luck and enjoy your time here.

Alucard, as jon correctly mentioned there are groups in all countries which use their ideology to discriminate against others. Poles are not racist but they are fiercely patriotic, the advice I would give is try to learn a little Polish before you arrive and read up on the history of Poland, this will help you understand the culture. This would be a great equaliser for you and will work in your favour, enjoy your stay in Poland and have success.

Thank you guys for anwering. I m quite happy that I learnt all of this information. I will dont worry I love to learn about others cultures and history.

Firstly, as a Turkish guy.. I see the lixt1 is a really troll, coming here to ask for informations and then being offensive to truths.

I really really thank @paulina and @rozumiemnic for their understanding.

Judgind the whole nation looking at just one troll is always wrong. Get rid of your bias first. I can honestly say there are bad people as many as good people, like the other countries. Here in Turkey, I have many Polish friends who are in love with Turkey! I've been in Poland, I've come across many racists people saying "kurwa spierdala" , but I never judged the whole Poles as racist... Because I've also met many nice people like Paulina and rozuemnic..

If you ever come to Turkey, please just let me know and I try to do anything I can do for you. You're always more than welcome.

And please, no matter what the nationality is, never ever feed the troll

Alucard

I can say that if you arw not traditional and especially not muslum you can do okay here

But

Telling from my experience and from the people i see here

As an agnostic and coming from secular - non fascist turkish/kurdish living here for some time

You will always feel you are a 'foreigner' here if you cannot integrate

And people will be mostly suspicious as you are from muslim country - turks do not leave good impression, you may have difficult times

You will see that people will be looking at you because you look different and you may get physical abuse - especially be ready for verbal abuse

I never felt i belonged to turkish society because of the kurdish/ turkish issue, different cultural outlook and religious ideas, so i am doing good here apart from missing family but generally with other turks i am in contact here, i see that they are lost and they are not able to decide if they can have a future here or not

So my suggestion is think twice before you decide. It is a country with very high number of white and catholics

If my Polish brothers are sane and, what I know, they are still sane, Polish people do have problem with possibility of Turkish students coming to study in Poland.

It is so because to some people who are born and grown up in sick society shouldn`t be allowed to walk freely in normal countries.

This "cliché" happens to be true :)


Well, then there would probably be no World War II, no concentration camps etc. and we would have a completely different reality, so I don't get your comparison.

Btw, as for "good Nazis" - if it wasn't for one good Nazi, my mum, me and my brother most probably wouldn't be even born.


With what?


The reality is that there are over 1 billion of Muslims in the world and anyone who thinks that all of these people have one goal in life (convert or kill all unbelievers) is an idiot. That's my personal, honest opinion.

Most people's goals in life is to have a job that will earn them a decent living, getting married, having a family, being happy. No matter whether they're Muslims, Catholics, Hindus or atheists. No matter whether they're Poles, Turks, Americans, Jews, etc. We're not talking here about fanatics but about normal, ordinary people.

Those are the facts of life.
People in given countries are born into their religions, culture, traditions just like I was born into Catholicism. Some people choose to turn away from their religion (just like I did at some point), some choose to stick with it (like I did eventually), some just go with the flow, some don't have much choice in their home country, some believe in God but don't agree with everything that their religion has to offer (like I do).

People are different, they are individuals and tarring them with the same brush is, according to me, a sign of stupidity/prejudice/ignorance. I can understand where this prejudice is coming from but an intelligent person is aware of his/her own prejudice/bias and at least is trying to think in a logical and objective way.

Now, I'm not blind or stupid - I know what's going on in the world and that Islam is in our times number 1 provider of terrorists on this planet and religious regimes.

But there was time when Christians were killing "heathens" too, persecuting people of different religions for centuries (Jews), treating women as second-category people, persecuting people who thought differently, scientists, etc.

Christians were wiping out whole continents, killing, raping and pillaging often with the name of God on their lips. Those Nazi soldiers who destroyed my country and killed 6 million of my compatriots were wearing the slogan "Gott mit uns" ("God with us") on their belt buckles and they were Christians.

So if you'd ask me whether someone's religion matters to me (or whether he or she is religious or not) I would answer - no. I don't care. Because it doesn't matter. What matters is whether he or she is a good person. This may sound like another cliché :) but this is the truth.

There are, of course, things that I don't like about Islam (there are also things that I don't like, although to a lesser degree, about Catholicism, Judaism and other religions). But I wouldn't treat someone badly, ban someone from coming to my country or make someone feel unwelcome based only on their religion without knowing their exact views, attitudes, character, personality, etc.

Btw, as for comparing Islam with Nazism, gregy741 - funnily, not long ago I had a discussion with a Polish agnostic about a Roman Emperor, Julian the Apostate (who was anti-Christian and wanted Rome to come back to its pagan beliefs), about Christianity and monotheistic religions. He claimed that if it wasn't for monotheistic religions the world would probably be a better place and he compared Christianity to Nazism, just like you did it with Islam (and, according to him, if it wasn't for Christianity, then there would be no Islam, so there you go - it's "our" fault anyway :)). And for some Jews, for example, the Christian cross induces similar feelings as the Nazi swastika does, apparently (centuries of persecution, remember). Poles had some clashes with "the peace-loving crusaders" too - the Teutonic Order who were simply called by Poles "Krzyżacy" (could be roughly translated as "the Cross people").

So are you sure you want to go down the road of such comparisons? Because it's a double-edged sword...


You know, I'm reading two blogs of Polish women married to Muslims - both are Egyptian men. One couple lives in Egypt, the husband is a religious Muslim just like the rest of his fairly traditional family. The "bastardization" of this Polish woman's Catholic faith to Islam looks as follows: they own a dog, they have a Christmas tree on every Christmas and she prepares Polish food on Christmas Eve, they will also have a baby when they have a bigger flat with more space, because that's what she decided and he drinks alcohol.

Another couple lives in Poland. What the Polish woman heard from her Egyptian man at the beginning was: "It's your country, you decide, baby". The "bastardization" of this Polish woman's culture (it doesn't seem to me that she's particularly religious) to Islam looks as follows: the Egyptian guy wants a dog, he started drinking alcohol - not vodka though, he apparently likes those flavoured beers with low % that in Poland usually women drink :) - he would buy such a beer for every match of the Polish team in Euro (right in the middle of Ramadan), he doesn't eat pork but he isn't fasting during Ramadan when he's in Poland.

Additionally, I'm not sure if you are aware of this, Johnny, but Muslims have been living in Poland for centuries.
Also, according to a report from 2009 there were 456,000 Muslims in Ukraine and somehow I've never heard of any "bastardization" or any other problems with the Muslim community over there.

Poland isn't any magnet for large "hordes" of migrants of any faith or no faith (well, maybe except for Ukrainians) and when you come here you usually have to adapt to some degree (a grater degree than in the West) in order to survive in this country. So I don't understand your histeria. Poland "somehow" survived with 3 millions of Jews many of whom didn't assimilate at all, Poles and their "Polishness" survived some rougher sh!t than most of the West will probably ever experience so I don't think you have to worry about us that much and tell other people on our behalf whether they're welcome in our country (not yours).


Yeah, either that or he's totally crazy lol


You're welcome :) I don't like when people generalise about and are prejudiced towards Poles, Catholics and Catholicism so I can relate and empathise pretty easily. Besides, I'm a Christian and empathy is an important part of my religion and I wish more people who are calling themsleves Christians on this forum would remember about this important fact...

The world seems to be a darker and more scary place with every year and that's why I think it's important for people like us to build bridges or at least try to think objectively and apply common sense and some empathy...


Sorry to hear that, DuRnaa...


I'm glad to hear that :)


Teşekkürler, that's very kind of you :)


Well, to be honest, I think that right now it's probably not the best time to be from a Muslim country or looking "Arab" in Poland. Although it would also probably depend what city you would choose to study in. If you're going to just study here then you're probably going to study in English so you'll be around other foreigners anyway. As for Poles, I guess it's like DuRnaa and istannbullu34 write - there are good and bad people here - if you're lucky you'll meet more good people than bad, if you're unlucky you may get verbal abuse or even end up being punched or beaten up.

So if you like an adventure and some adrenaline rush then come - if you don't - maybe choose a more predictable place.
I don't really know, there are Muslims visiting and living and working in Poland and they're still alive lol but I myself don't like the direction where my country is going so I don't know what to advise you...


I hope that your society has become more healthy and your country more normal since the times when Serbs were performing ethnic cleansing and raping women and girls during the Balkan wars. Otherwise, maybe we shouldn't be letting Serbian students into Poland, hmm?