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Where I should study journalism(in Poland )


AnastasiaKK  1 | 13  
11 Aug 2014 /  #1
Hello everyone!^^)

I need some help.I want to ask about journalism(where the best place to study , job opportunities)

Im thinking about Jagiellonian University but maybe Warsaw University is better?or other universities?
Monitor  13 | 1810  
11 Aug 2014 /  #2
There are no job prospects after this major. You may want to study it if it's your hobby and have rich parents. It's hard to say what is better, as you want to study in English I guess.
smurf  38 | 1940  
11 Aug 2014 /  #3
For a career in journalism it would be better for you to specialise in what you want to write about first and then do a H Dip in it.

So for example, you want to be a political journalist, you should first study politics to a degree level and then take a 2 year additional course in journalism.

Most journalism degrees aren't worth the paper they're written on and the vast amount of professionals in the industry now have followed that path.

Also, get writing for free sites immediately and get some experience. And stay motivated, it's difficult to break into journalism especially now but if you're good at it and willing to put in the years of work it'll pay off.
Maluch  30 | 94  
11 Aug 2014 /  #4
I think journalism is one of those degrees for people who will mostly end up unemployed ;) people who don't have the brains or initiative to actually jump into the industry themselves.

You don't need a journalism degree to do journalism - your best bet would be to start working in the field now, educate yourself widely or specific to what interests you.

My friend is a top reuter's reporter, travelling the world and living it up, but he never did a journalism degree or had any such training.
OP AnastasiaKK  1 | 13  
11 Aug 2014 /  #5
No,I want to study in Polish)
No job prospects at all?But I know that Poland has TV and radio and magazines etc)))
Monitor  13 | 1810  
11 Aug 2014 /  #6
No job prospects at all?But I know that Poland has TV and radio and magazines etc)))

But we have just few big TV stations and newspapers and thousands of journalism graduates every year. So it's thousands of graduates + people who haven't graduated journalism but want work in this business + all graduates from previous years who finally want to get their dreamed job vs maybe 50 serious job openings per year.
OP AnastasiaKK  1 | 13  
11 Aug 2014 /  #7
end up unemployed

I've been dreaming about journalism since I was 10 years old.The problem is in that I don't know what kind of journalism I should choose,because I love writing on various topics from fashion to politics..so I think I should try myself in everything

And now Im writing for free sites, but I want to be professional in it
Maybe I can study Bachelor degree in Poland and get a Master degree in other country if there are no job prospects..
Monitor  13 | 1810  
11 Aug 2014 /  #8
Maybe I can study Bachelor degree in Poland and get a Master degree in other country if there are no job prospects..

As somebody mentioned you cannot be a good reporter if you have no interests. Currently press moves to the internet so you can write to some blog, web-portals, vlogs. There are quite a view people earning money in that way. But still you must have something interesting to say, not just major in journalism. Don't go this way Anastasia!

Moreover you cannot simply change country, as you need to know the country's language on native level to be a writer. Native knowledge is something what very view can achieve. (except of people born in given country)
OP AnastasiaKK  1 | 13  
11 Aug 2014 /  #9
Hmm anyway I have to work hard and take every chance ...Maybe I should try to get a chance study abroad and then there find a job ...
Szalawa  2 | 239  
11 Aug 2014 /  #10
Yeah, you can try conducting a documentary on something in your area then upload it on Youtube, write blogs and reports. Youtube is the big thing now.

As for studying journalism, I'm not sure about this field... If you want to, don't let anyone stop you. But you can also do things that will be an asset to your skills in that field such as Language and media studies, political science etc. But I am a science person so I can't say much on this. Well you can do journalism on scientific research, that sounds pretty cool to be honest.
OP AnastasiaKK  1 | 13  
11 Aug 2014 /  #11
I am from Ukraine and Polish language is not so that hard, so next month I am going to learn Polish...
By the way, sorry for my bad English:D
Varsovian  91 | 634  
11 Aug 2014 /  #12
Look, realistically, you are not going to get a journalism job in Poland. So, forget it. And if you feel you're being discriminated against, most big journalism jobs in Poland go to people whose parents were well-connected decades ago - especially in the secret police. So, most Polish journalists stand no real chance of a good job either :)
OP AnastasiaKK  1 | 13  
11 Aug 2014 /  #13
Thank you for your advice! I will try to find something that will help me to be much better to know more...
But what about Universities? ))

So I have to find a friend on TV and magazine))joking)
I don't know what is going to be in the future, but I have a plan:D
WielkiPolak  54 | 988  
11 Aug 2014 /  #14
Well it feels great to read that the degree I have is useless, but I can conclude it is difficult to break in to. I have a degree in journalism but if I could do it again, I would have done what was suggested near the top of this thread and got a degree in a subject that interests me, and then tried to use that. A lot of journalists now have degrees in English or Politics. They don't have journalism degree. A journalism degree doesn't actually teach a whole lot of any subject, so for example, my general knowledge has not improved much from it, I just know more about the industry and what qualities you need as a journalist. I have thought about starting my own magazine, that is one way. The question is, can any money be made of it? If nobody reads it, who cares? You might as well just have a website that nobody reads, at least it won't cost as much.
OP AnastasiaKK  1 | 13  
11 Aug 2014 /  #15
So now I have to find out what subject interested me and then use it in my future career...
But it's the hardest thing.. But anyway, I can write about fashion in any time:D

Why you don't want to study again? Study that subject that you want? .
DominicB  - | 2706  
11 Aug 2014 /  #16
I will try to find something that will help me to be much better to know more...

I'm going to have to agree with everyone else. A degree in journalism is a waste of time. Jobs in journalism are very difficult to get, even in the West. In Poland, you have to be an ace or have very good connections, or both.

Like someone else said, get a degree in a more useful field. If you want to become a journalist, study sciences (biology, chemistry, physics, engineering and math). If there is a shortage of good writers in any field, it is precisely here. There are precious few good journalists who write about the sciences.

As for other fields, degrees in the following fields are just about as worthless as one in journalism: psychology, sociology, anthropology, political sciences, communications, media, art, music, film, photography, performing arts, architecture, languages (including English), literature, philosophy, theology, economics, finance, banking, business, management, administration, international relations, tourism and recreation, law, criminal justice, history, agriculture, marketing, gender studies, ethnic studies and just about anything that contains the word "studies".

Basically, too many people study humanities and there are not enough jobs for them when they graduate. To have a chance, you have to 1) have natural PROVEN talent and actual DOCUMENTED achievements before you begin university, 2) go to a top school; 3) be an excellent student; 4) have excellent connections; and 5) be a born self-promoter. Otherwise, the chances are higher that you will end up working in some very-low lousy job for the rest of your life.

Study sciences, especially geological engineering, petroleum engineering or biomedical engineering. Otherwise, study the math-heavy version of the field you like, i.e. econometrics instead of economics, financial mathematics instead of finance, etc.

Math is money.
Maluch  30 | 94  
11 Aug 2014 /  #17
So now I have to find out what subject interested me and then use it in my future career..

You can start right now ;) Tell us about the latest fashions in Ukraine... I hear the women there are very beautiful.... (photos would help tell your story)

Studying Journalism is kind of like studying Business. It is one thing to actually study it, it is another thing to actually do it.

The best business minds and journalists never studied those subjects, they learned at a school called "real life"

That said - coming from Ukraine ... Poland is full of opportunities and really high salaries ;) You will love living here!
OP AnastasiaKK  1 | 13  
11 Aug 2014 /  #18
And where did you study journalism??

If you wanna know in Ukraine recently was held Holiday Fashion Week 2014 in Odessa)) I must say we have so talented people! For instance, Julia Aisina or Diana Dorozhinka! The last one is sooo talented:) Have you heard about Oleg Skrypka? :) This year he has made his first own collection with patriotic vibes ,actually it is so cool:))))

But let's go back to journalism:D As I understand I'd rather choose something else. Politics sounds great because I am interested in it , but I don't like chemistry Biology, don't know why but it's kind of a routine for me..

And yes, I think women in my country are very beautiful)))
I heard a lot about Poland , it is nice country and there people kind to Ukrainians)) am I right? :)
DominicB  - | 2706  
11 Aug 2014 /  #19
Politics sounds great because I am interested in it

Like I said, politics is just about as useless as journalism or business. Far too many students study it. Find a field that 1) few students study because 2) it is very demanding. If you study the easy humanities subjects, you will always face stiff competition for jobs.
OP AnastasiaKK  1 | 13  
11 Aug 2014 /  #20
Yes ,I know it.. It is like in my country - there are so many lawyers and economists))

but I think that every job is needed and I wanna have that profession that I love..
DominicB  - | 2706  
11 Aug 2014 /  #21
but I think that every job is needed and I wanna have that profession that I love..

Every job may be needed, but not every person who graduates with that degree is needed. If you're going to study something "easy", make sure that you have natural talent and can prove it, already have significant achievements in the field and can prove it, go to an extremely good university, are a top student, make TONS of useful contacts, and aggressively promote yourself.
OP AnastasiaKK  1 | 13  
11 Aug 2014 /  #22
Math...I am not bad at Math but it's not that I want to study..
Szalawa  2 | 239  
11 Aug 2014 /  #23
but I don't like chemistry Biology, don't know why but it's kind of a routine for me..

That's what I am doing, lots of work. But still better then Physics and high level mathematics for me.
I hear even with a Bachelors degree in Science it will still be hard to find a decent job. But If you can write good reports and "sell the knowledge to the public" via documenting the research you just might have something. But you will need passion for science and high understanding of the subject.
OP AnastasiaKK  1 | 13  
11 Aug 2014 /  #24
Yes ,I know) and i am ready, because it is something that I like , not that thing that makes me feel "oh again , ok I will do it" as I said I have a plan wich includes so many steps.

And do you like it? What is your subject? )
smurf  38 | 1940  
11 Aug 2014 /  #25
from fashion to politics.

Well then, I suggest you do some kind of humanities degree, such as politics or fashion, or something broad like culture studies and then once finished do a post-grad in journalism. The previous qualification will serve you better in the long run than just a journalism degree.

But if you like fashion so much then if I was you I'd do a degree in fashion/art/culture studies, Try to find a course than combines them. When finished then you can become a writer or maybe find your way into television.

Best of luck
OP AnastasiaKK  1 | 13  
11 Aug 2014 /  #26
Thank you so much!
But fashion is not mygoal, I said that like a joke, but anyway as every girl I love fashion:))
WielkiPolak  54 | 988  
12 Aug 2014 /  #27
Anastasia study what you are interested in. I don't like to see people get pressured in to studying a 'realistic' field. Do a degree in something that interests you. Then, if you want it enough, you will have to fight to get the job that you have a degree for. If you want, you could try to take more than once subject, one you like and another that is more realistic to get a job in, as a back up.
jon357  73 | 22934  
12 Aug 2014 /  #28
Where I should study journalism(in Poland )

Nowhere, if you want to be a journalist - better study something else. If however you do want to study journalism, try UKSW.
Maluch  30 | 94  
12 Aug 2014 /  #29
Study sciences, especially geological engineering, petroleum engineering or biomedical engineering.

lol your thinking is extremely old school and narrow-minded. Math is boring! I remember years ago a Computer science degree was the big thing, "study computer science if you want a job" Well that was wrong because everyone studied it, and the bubble burst, and at the end of the day - why do something you hate and sit at a computer like a zombie? (even if you are getting paid ridiculously well).

The "worthless" humanities may not get you a job but they teach you how to think and conceptualize the world...

Do I still think Universities and 'higher education' are one big business to suck the money out of your pocket? Sure. (in north america at least).

Anastasia - at the end of the day, you will likely be unemployed or with low salary - so follow your heart ;) Study something that interests you, enjoy your student years, and...

Marry Rich ;)
OP AnastasiaKK  1 | 13  
12 Aug 2014 /  #30
In my opinion, nowadays everyone has to fight for a job..It is like in my country everyone says that even if you have to diplomas be ready to say everyone "free cash" (or I don't know how to say right, in Ukt=raine it sound like вільна каса:)))) )in McDonald's.

Jon357 hmm I have never seen this University.Why exactly UKSW ?and they have journalism since 2010..And where in Euorope?I was thinking about Charles University, but then I found Jagiellonian and University of Warsaw

Marry Rich

Maluch,I agree with you:))))Because I won't study subjects that I don't like at all..I agree that I might have a few subjects that I don't like,but at least they will be relevant to journalism,not to chemistry or biomedical engineering:))) I'd rather take an interview and right about it,why not?))

And yes, you are right I'd rather choose low salary or have no job (but anyway I don't think that I will have a job immediately after university)

Hmmm marry rich - it is interesting:DD

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