RIP to the poor kids...and I hope that these few fools don't influence others into thinking that killing innocent people for what their ancestors did is the right way to do things.
Well said Cardno
9 year old Polish girl and 10 year old brother killed by World War II bomb
Well said Cardno
They killed many of my family, and friends,
The people who did this are all dead now....do you want to punish people who were not even born when these events took place....?
How would you feel if some young Jew stuck a knife in you because his grandfather was killed by your grandfather...?
Its people like you that will ensure that Poland never makes any progress or becomes a real part of Europe...
We must never forget what happened , but trying to keep the second war going forever just does not make sense.....
How would you feel if some young Jew stuck a knife in you because his grandfather was killed by your grandfather...?
Yeah like the Jews don't do it anyway not literally of course but the demand new compensation over and over.
Its people like you that will ensure that Poland never makes any progress or becomes a real part of Europe...
Really?So Poland is unreal Europe?What's the REAL Europe anyway?It is none of your bussines pal and you need to shut your mouth and stop talking about things you don't understand.
Ok....i am going to hate the Italians for what those dam Romans did in the UK
also the romans killed jesus too
What's the REAL Europe anyway?
Actually i said a real part of Europe , not a part of real Europe....
Bombs are still recovered in most European countries, I think. Of mine, bombs in Finland are quite certainly Russian, while those in Italy American.
Many countries in the world, including the losers Germany and Japan, had completely destroyed cities too and managed to not only build them back, but to become part of the most important economies of the world. So I'd say rebuilding destroyed cities doesn't automatically mean hampering development, nor new cities would have automatically been built.
Many countries in the world, including the losers Germany and Japan, had completely destroyed cities too and managed to not only build them back, but to become part of the most important economies of the world. So I'd say rebuilding destroyed cities doesn't automatically mean hampering development, nor new cities would have automatically been built.
Bratwurst Boy 8 | 11918
28 Mar 2011 / #37
Many countries in the world, including the losers Germany and Japan, had completely destroyed cities too and managed to not only build them back, but to become part of the most important economies of the world. So I'd say rebuilding destroyed cities doesn't automatically mean hampering development, nor new cities would have automatically been built.
I've read journos which meant that was actually the reason WHY the losers became the economical winners some years later.
They got the chance to "start from scratch" and to re-build hypermodern as everything had been flattened but the winners had to make do with the same old aged crap.
Quite a theory mind you...after that it would mean that all the economical basket cases of today need just a good 'ol fashioned mass bombardement.
but the winners had to make do with the same old aged crap.
There is a lot of truth in that... one of the cleanest cities i have been in was Rotterdam , no old buildings there , as the Germans did a good job of slum clearance in 1940...
The railways are also a good example , France for instance has a very modern rail network that works well , the old network got bombed to bits , but we in the UK still have the old Victorian rail system....
Bratwurst Boy 8 | 11918
28 Mar 2011 / #39
There is a lot of truth in that...
Well...then...THANK YOU!
;)
When should we send the Luftwaffe over?
(What are friends for...)
Err yes , to get back to the thread.....
The first year i was in Poland i went to a village school near Lobez to collect a friend of mine who was a teacher there , she asked me to have a look at something a young boy had brought into class....it was a live Russian mortar bomb...!
We had to get all the teachers and kids out of the school and wait for the army to come and take it away...
They had a look around among the trees where the boy had found this bomb and within an hour they had found four other items that you definatly would not want your kids playing with....
Its a problem in many countries , especially those that saw a lot of fighting such as Poland....
The place i am going to live in Russia has even more of a problem , its quite common to turn up unexploded nasties , as well as human remains when digging your garden....
The first year i was in Poland i went to a village school near Lobez to collect a friend of mine who was a teacher there , she asked me to have a look at something a young boy had brought into class....it was a live Russian mortar bomb...!
We had to get all the teachers and kids out of the school and wait for the army to come and take it away...
They had a look around among the trees where the boy had found this bomb and within an hour they had found four other items that you definatly would not want your kids playing with....
Its a problem in many countries , especially those that saw a lot of fighting such as Poland....
The place i am going to live in Russia has even more of a problem , its quite common to turn up unexploded nasties , as well as human remains when digging your garden....
Is the disposel of such things a fairly matter of fact thing in Poland?
In the UK if an old mills bomb(hand grenade) is found the local Plod go well OTT,sealing off area that a 1000 pounder would have trouble making much impact on. I know there is " better safe than sorry" but,a happy medium. Is that a Polish thing,over panic,or more like the french farmers who pick them up and chuck them to the roadside for the daily army van to pick up?
In the UK if an old mills bomb(hand grenade) is found the local Plod go well OTT,sealing off area that a 1000 pounder would have trouble making much impact on. I know there is " better safe than sorry" but,a happy medium. Is that a Polish thing,over panic,or more like the french farmers who pick them up and chuck them to the roadside for the daily army van to pick up?
I don,t know if this is a true story...but here goes...
Some old Polish farmer told me he ploughed up a bomb on his land...there seemed to be some dispute as to who should shift it , as they were not sure if it was a Russian or German bomb...
It seems a bit unlikely there would be such a dispute , but thats what he told me....
Anyways..while they were arguing about the matter , the old farmer put a chain round the bomb and dragged it off his land onto state land so he could carry on ploughing.....
Later when the army showed up they decided to blow it up where it was....as it was too dangerous to move it... ha..!
Some old Polish farmer told me he ploughed up a bomb on his land...there seemed to be some dispute as to who should shift it , as they were not sure if it was a Russian or German bomb...
It seems a bit unlikely there would be such a dispute , but thats what he told me....
Anyways..while they were arguing about the matter , the old farmer put a chain round the bomb and dragged it off his land onto state land so he could carry on ploughing.....
Later when the army showed up they decided to blow it up where it was....as it was too dangerous to move it... ha..!
The details of the "argument" may have been,well,embellished,but the jist sounds pretty plausable.
Mateusz_A Ty - | 12
30 Apr 2011 / #44
And the Polish are still dying because of Germans..
Well, more will be getting better living opportunities very soon.....
I'm sure many children were killed by bombs on all sides but it doesn't make sense to drag it up again and again. Any humane person would issue their sincerest condolences to those that die needlessly but I think everything should have been said a long time ago.
I'm sure many children were killed by bombs on all sides but it doesn't make sense to drag it up again and again. Any humane person would issue their sincerest condolences to those that die needlessly but I think everything should have been said a long time ago.
ukpolska
1 May 2011 / #46
My wife's family lives one kilometre away from where they were killed and know the family very well.
It is a tragedy that no one could have prevented this as there is a strong suspicion that it was encrusted with mud and looked like a rock of which farmers throw on the sides of fields.
All over this area there are arms dumps when the Germans fled in front of the advancing Russian army and my father-in-law found a dump on his farm three years ago and promptly called the army who disposed of it.
All the children in the area are having special classes informing them of the tragedy warning them not to touch suspicious objects; always smart to think of things in hindsight, but in this case it's a shame that this was not done before.
Don't be daft my friend as this ordnance maybe 70 years old and as I said it was covered in mud and any lettering would be virtually imposable to read, if it was there at all.
It is a tragedy that no one could have prevented this as there is a strong suspicion that it was encrusted with mud and looked like a rock of which farmers throw on the sides of fields.
All over this area there are arms dumps when the Germans fled in front of the advancing Russian army and my father-in-law found a dump on his farm three years ago and promptly called the army who disposed of it.
All the children in the area are having special classes informing them of the tragedy warning them not to touch suspicious objects; always smart to think of things in hindsight, but in this case it's a shame that this was not done before.
Some ordnance has labels like "warning", "danger", "handle with care", etc. Or this:
Don't be daft my friend as this ordnance maybe 70 years old and as I said it was covered in mud and any lettering would be virtually imposable to read, if it was there at all.