Find another explanation for this recurrent idiocy of Harry. I am at a loss.
nott: You were referring to Polish camps.
So you wish to claim that the camps run by Poles in Poland after the war were not Polish concentration camps because they were officially referred to as 'labour camps'?
I claim you have attention span like a dead golden fish. No contemporary media, Harry moron, referred to
camps, as you claimed, because there was only one contemporarily referred to in the media, that in Bereza. The post-war camps were not referred to, it was illegal to do so in Poland under Soviet rule, and the West didn't give a damn.
Your claim was another wild harryism, exactly as your claim about
Polish concentration camps after the war. They were Soviet camps, exactly as Auschwitz was a German camp. Poland was an occuped country, under Soviet rule, run by a Soviet clique of Soviet citizens, and everybody who heard about PRL knows perfectly well about that. Except you, that is. This needs another couple of braincells, sorry.
Which means, coming back to topic at last, that 'Polish concentration camps' as referred to by the Western media are about German camps in the occupied Poland, and the phrase is a slander exploiting Western ignorance about the European history.
Well, what else can we expect from a liar like you? Remind me, what was it you said would happen if I called you a liar one more time?
Quote me, you so good at invoking sources.
nott: Sawoniuk was Belorussian, born in Russia,
Sawoniuk was born on 7 March 1921 in Domaczewo, Poland and born to a Polish mother and an unknown father. Under Polish law of the time (and now), that makes him Polish.
His 'Polish mother' as according to 'some newspapers', Westerners ignorant of Polish realities just like you. He was using oteczestwo, as any Belorussian, and as no Pole would, and he was commonly known as a Belorussian. He joined a Belorussian Police under German control and prosecuted Poles.
Under Polish law he was a Polish citizen, just like other Belorussians, Ukrainians, Jews, Germans and whatever. So long in Poland, and still not unable to grasp this difference, you must be really stupid.
None of your sources claims that Sawoniuk or Obodzinski were Poles. Place of birth does not define a nationality, Harry, especially not in the pre-war Poland.
How unfortunate that you can not remove that fact from history in the same way that you remove inconvenient facts from wikipedia.
Looses argument, reverts to slander, Harry in full glory.
nott: Old tricks, Harry, blatant lies in hope nobody will check? None of these sources says he was a Pole.
The sources say that he was born in Poland and went to Canada as part of a program for Polish servicemen. But you still have to lie about what the sources say.
Right. Born in Poland. That's all they say. None of them says he was a Pole. No courts quoted by you have ever claimed that. No sources claim that.
Speaking of Gorale, how about the Goralisher Waffen SS Legion? No Poles in there according to you!
Who was speaking of Gorale, Harry? I said Germans did not recruit Poles to SS, nor to Hiwis, Harry the confused. Gorale were not Poles to them.
And then we have the Polnische Wehrmacht,
ROTFL!! :)) The what??? I say Germans never recruited Poles to the SS, and you call me a liar because there was a formation of Poles in the German army in the war of 1914? Everybody bloody knows that, Harry the Revelator. Loads of Poles were the citizens of Germany then. You heard about WW1? Try to google it.
Seems we need a thread for the most stupid argument on the day.
And of course Schuma-Bataillon 202, which was officially defined by the Nazis as a Polish battalion (although I guess that to you those boys were OK as they mainly fought communist partisans).
To me those boys were Ukrainians. Schuma Batallion 202 was formed by joining two Ukrainian formations which took part in the German invasion of the USSR. Whatever some drunk Nazi called them is hardly relevant.
And then there are the 151 Poles who fought with the SS and were recruited in Britain to join the post-war 'British Army on the Rhine'. The records that prove that are available for in UK War Department (now Min of Defence) files at the UK Public Records Office. Where do those men fit into your lies?
Germans did not recruit Poles to the SS, Harry, that's a historical fact. Polish citizen is not necessarily a Pole, Harry, that's a fact of life. Kebab is no good for brains, that's the conclusion.
Speaks volumes about the Admin that he tolerates you here.