Reporter says she would trade 10 Polish lives if it helped thousands of immigrants

Militant, fanatical supremacist Islam + allowing its advocates to immigrate are 99% of the problem. If they stayed in their desert homelands on the otehr side of nowhere and contented themselves to blowing up one another's mosques (Shi'ite v Sunnit!), the civilised world would not be the worse off for it. Maybe in time they'd kill each other off.

The only way to protect Poland from terrorist attacks is by not allowing Islamic migrants into the country, Polish European Parliament deputy Ryszard Czarnecki has said. His comments follow an attack in London on Saturday which killed ten, including three suspects, and injured at least 48 others. Terrorist attacks were often carried out by children of "Islamic migrants" - many of them citizens of European countries - who were trained by the so-called Islamic State. "Other countries have led to a situation in which those trained on Islamic State territory in Syria, Iraq - young people with French, Belgian, Dutch, British, German citizenship - return to Europe ... and somehow [the authorities] were incapable of monitoring them," Czarnecki said. "We, Poland, are learning from the mistakes of others ... and we will not open our doors to Islamic migrants," he added.

If that is true, why is the PiSlamic State allowing Islamic migrants into Poland? The current visa and residency permit makes no mention of religion and the government have announced no plans to change that, so why are PIS not doing what they claim is the only way to protect Poland from terrorist attacks? Does the PiSlamic State feel that it would profit from terrorist attacks in Poland and that is why it is not following what it claims is the only path to preventing attacks?


The door is already wide open, as anybody who has been to Warsaw recently can see, which would explain why PIS thinks it can get away with saying this rubbish (the only people who will believe them never go to Warsaw).

Reporter is imbecile. That about that.

PiSlamic is dishing out more of his typical BS. We are talking about illegal aliens from amongst hordes of Muslim parasites pounding on Europe's doors, not the normal procedure for issuing residence permits.

What % of Polish society do Muslims account for? How about Britain, Belgium. Germany, Sweden? Conclusion: the more Muslims, the more terrorism! That's why there have been next to no Muslim attacks in Poland. End of story!

You, 'Polish' Polly, may be talking about something that might make the hundreds of thousands of people in the Middle East who helped Polish refugees not so long ago wish that they hadn't bothered, but the PiSlamic State is clearly talking about something else. They are talking about "Islamic migrants", not refugees.


The reason there have been no attacks here is that Poland simply is not that important on the world stage. Terrorists hit high profile targets: Poland is not a high profile country. I'd imagine that most of your fellow Americans think that Poland is in the very far north of Europe, up by the North Pole, or perhaps next to Holland. However, all of the boasting that the PiSlamic State is doing about how Poles are completely safe is only going to increase the likelihood of an attack here. But that that's probably what they want anyway.

There or other libretards of Harry's ilk who say stupid, ill-considered things like "Poles were also refugees and immigrants, etc., etc."
That is true, but when our great-grandparents or grandparents or parents came from Poland to America (and other countries) as immigrants or refugees, they did not:

1. Desecrate Protestant churches and insist everyone should live according to Catholic rules;
2. Reject English-based American law and insist they would follow only the Napoleonic Code because that was the basis of law in the Old Country;
3. Create no-go zones where only Old Coutnry law prevailed and which even American police were reluctant to enter;
4. Seek welfare benefits the moment they arrived and refuse to work at menial jobs.
5. Demand Polish dietary habits become the norm in school cafeterias;
6. Join subversive groups whose aim was to forcibly Catholicise and Polonise the USA and the rest of the world to boot. 7. Detonate bombs at children's concerts or drive motor vehicles into crowds of tourists......

Oh dear, back to that old canard, eh 'Polish'. Pity it's been so comprehensively nailed so many times. But I suppose you need to resort to desperate means when the discussion is so clearly showing how badly the PiSlamic State is dealing with the terrorist threat to Polish lives.

That's complete BS. Belgium has suffered at the hands of Islamic extremism. Is that because (as you put it) it must be a important player on the world stage OR because it simply has a LOT more muslims living there ?

How many muslims live in Poland Harry ? I know you like to pretend that Warsaw is awash with your muslim friends but please provide a source rather than just saying "there's a lot of brown skinned people in Warsaw so I guess they must all be muslim".

You must have an IQ of 24.9. Name the last terrorist threat to Polish lives. The fact is Poland is increasignly admired for standing its ground on illegal Muslim aliens and not succumbing to EU intimidation and blackmail.

Brussels, the de facto capital of the European Union and seat of the headquarters of NATO, Warsaw, a city few could locate on a map of a country which few could locate on a map of the world: I wonder which of those is a higher profile target.


Nobody knows (seeing how it's illegal to force people to disclose their religion here).


That may be the kind of thing 'Polish' Polly and others of your friends would say, but personally I'd base a guess on the number of women wearing a hijab. Perhaps if you ever set foot in Warsaw you can do the same. But that's probably unlikely, isn't it.

Just to prevent naive libretard PiSlamic shouting "There are no no-go zones!" as he moves up in the Muslim Supremacists' decapitation queue, please read and absorb. nd just so you don't dismiss this as an "unreliable source" (as you often do when you disagree with the truth!), I'll start with your beloved NYT (which many Americans justifiably call the Jew York Times):

**As early as 2002 David Ignatius in The New York Times wrote about France: "Arab gangs regularly vandalize synagogues here, the North African suburbs have become no-go zones at night, and the French continue to shrug their shoulders." La Courneuve and other districts in the Paris region were described by police as no-go zones.

**In the wake of the 2015 Paris attacks, the Molenbeek municipality in Brussels was described in many media reports as a no-go area, where gang violence and Islamic radicalism had fed on Molenbeek's marginalisation, despair and festering resentment of authority. In 2015 Belgium's home affairs minister said that the government did not "have control of the situation in Molenbeek" and that terrorists' links to this district were a "gigantic problem"

**In a 2011 interview, Bernhard Witthaut, president of the German police trade union (Gewerkschaft der Polizei), stated that some areas in Germany, mostly with a high immigrant population, had become no-go areas where police feared to enter.

**Especially dangerous for outsiders is city of Malmö. A police officer and task force chief referred to such areas as no go areas and wrote that gangs like to lay claim to an area by throwing stones at mailmen, police, firefighters and ambulances who enter the area.

A canard? It is quite obvious that stone-walling denial will get you nowhere. In fact, rather than feasitng on roast duck with apples (a Polish favourite), PiSlamic will be eating crow! (LOL!)

Following your logic- What capital is Manchester?

You are applying your own disjointed reasoning to the actions of Islamic terrorists (unless you know something we don't).

So according to "Harry-logic" Islamic terrorists are targetting "high profile cities" only which is why Warsaw has been spared but Brussels hasn't been. According to Harry, the fact that Poland has not been targetted has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that there are very very few muslims living in Poland.

Make your own mind up about his argument


"Guess" being the operative word as basically you do not know do you ? You see a few women wearing a hijab (probably university students) and try to make an intelligent argument based on that experience. I'm surprised you don't provide us with photographic proof as we only have your word for it.


A good friend would probably advise you to stop opening your mouth as it makes you look like a fool. You know nothing about me-nothing. Your pathetic attempts at claiming I know nothing about Warsaw are again based on "Harry-logic" no facts, no sources, no evidence-just Harry's opinion dressed up as fact.

How many Muslims living in Belgium can enter Poland without any checks whatsoever? That's right, all of them. Just as they can enter France freely. So why did Muslims living in Belgium make repeated attacks on Paris and leave Warsaw alone completely? Could it perhaps be the profile of the targets?


It's not a question of seeing a few women wearing hijabs, it's a case of seeing women wearing hijabs on a pretty much daily basis. They're certainly a more common sight than Vietnamese women and there are reputed tens of thousands of Vietnamese in Warsaw, plus I live in a neighbourhood sometimes known as Little Vietnam. And I doubt they are all university students, or even mostly university students. Very often they have a kid or two with them.

As for photographic proof, what I'm saying is well known to anybody who has been to Warsaw in the last couple of years, perhaps you'd also like photographic proof that shopping centres in Warsaw are busy in the period before Christmas?


The fact that you don't know that religious Muslim women are a daily sight in central Warsaw is clear proof that you don't come here. But of course you aren't going to let your ignorance get in the way of a chance to rant about Muslims.

You are of the same ilk who attack Tommy Robinson for making valid statements.

Islamic terrorist attack:

Liberal: Nothing to do with Islam, just an extremist, as long as we spread peace and love all will be okay.
"Right wing neo-nazi": It has a lot to do with Islam, there are many calls for violence and death to infidels in the Qur'an.

Same liberal: Do not spread your political ideology in the wake of tragedy. Racist! "Hitler supporter!"

If a terrorist attack happens, you do nothing.
If someone makes an argument you don't like, you shut it down with empty words effectively achieving nothing.

Britain used to be something, thanks to soft cases like yourself it's become a target.

It's a real pity that you aren't old enough to remember when Britain used to be the target of 'Catholic' terrorists and that far more people died back then.


As there are in the bible.

The problem isn't Islam, the problem is with extremism, with radicalism. The problem is not the radicalization of Islam, but the Islamization of radicalism, as evidenced by the two British wannabe jihadists who before leaving the UK to fight in Syria bought copies of Islam for Dummies and The Koran for Dummies.

We've been down this road before Harry and the point has been made that the conflict in Northern Ireland was a territorial one, not a religious one, but I think the point you're making is that the Islamic terrorists are not representative of Islam just as the IRA or indeed the Loyalist Paramilitaries, were not true Catholics or true Protestants. But actually Martin McGuinness was a practising Catholic and indeed following the ceasefire and disarmament, he and Ian Paisley prayed together! I don't see why there's a problem with recognising that these guys are indeed Muslims and are killing in the name of Islam. That doesn't mean that all Muslims share those views, but merely that there are extremists in the Muslim community.

I think that liberals just can't admit it as it would require some actions and infiltration of these communities and it is uncomfortable and no PC. Also taking into account that these communities are not very helpful and are very 'sensitive' and 'touchy' about any criticism it is easier to blame some 'radical terrorists' bit like UFO came from nowhere...:-)

Even by your standards that's a pretty big deviation to make. You are arguing against a point that I did not even make. I didn't say muslims cannot enter Poland freely. Your argument is empty. Why did muslims living in Belgium leave Nato headquarters alone ? Why did muslims living in Belgium leave the Vatican City alone ? Is that not considered a worthy target for you Harry ? Why was a British soldier decapitated yet Polish soldiers haven't been attacked even though they have also fought on Islamic soil ?


Thanks for the nice detour about Vietnamese women but we're not talking about them or whether Vietnamese women have kids are we ?


There's no need to describe them as "religious muslim women"-if you are identifying them as "muslim" then they are clearly "religious"-your description is redundant.

Muslim women as a daily sight in Warsaw is not the same as saying there is large muslim community in Warsaw which is something that you continually allude to.


Not only do you pretend to know about my travel and living arrangements but you claim to know how old WhirlwindTobias is too. I am old enough to remember the IRA and I can educate you on this topic as you clearly have a muddled understanding if you're comparing the IRA to Islamic extremism.

The IRA were politically motivated-they sought the end of British rule in Northern Ireland and the reunification of Ireland. If the British government agreed to withdraw British troops and granted Northern Ireland autonomy then the bombing campaign would have ended.

The IRA generally, though not always, gave coded warnings to the police or the media of a bomb about to be detonated.

The IRA did not commit acts of terrorism in the name of Jesus or the Father or the Holy Spirit. They may have been Catholics but did not identify themselves as Catholic terrorists nor did they commit any acts of terrorism in the name of their religion. If you can prove otherwise then please share with us..........

On the other hand, ISIS, Al Qaeda etc do not want a political solution. They do not demand anything from us. They do not want to negotiate with us. They simply want to kill us because we are considered infidels.

Islamic terrorists make an explicit point of linking their killings with their faith and Allah. Even you Harry cannot deny this.

Attempting to compare the IRA with Islamic terrorists is pathetic.


<sighs> extremism of Islam Harry. You can't just be "extreme" and have nothing to be extreme about.


No. It is not "evidenced" by the two British wannabe jihadists as the very fact that there were only two of them is not enough evidence to base an entire argument on-even though you try.

You appear to be showing an increasing amount of sympathy and support for Islamic extremists Harry..........

Please cut down on the number of quotes in future, three quotes per post is plenty.

The general awarenss of libretard PiSlamic's ignoranceand sophistry grows with each passing day. There are no no-go zones. There is no culture war. Poles were also refugees and were received and helped. There were terrorist incidents by IRA, Basque separatists, etc., etc. Yes, but neither the Irish nor the Basques wanted to take over the world. The Islamists do: google.pl/search?q=islam+will+dominate+the+world

95% chance she sleeps with ethnics

Just kidding or maybe not. But when I look around the World and compare - White Women seem to be the most self-destructive

Really? Give me one quote from the new testament [you know that part of the Bible that Christians tend to focus on] that incites violence or calls for the killing of infidels/non-believers.

In her calculation she assumes, that out of the 6999 refugees a significant amount would have been killed in the war, would they not had fled the war zone. Actually she calculates that she saved ALL of the 6999 people from certain death.

Syria had according to Wiki a population of 21 Million before the war. (2011)
The war causalities amount to 470 thousand, which is 2.2 % of the population. This is the highest number available, and taking into account staged terrorist attacks, I question even the smallest numbers available. This are total numbers, ISIS and opposition fighters alike. Civilian deaths are about 1/5th of that - so at the end we can divide by 5 to get the actual numbers.

2.2% of 6999 are 154
So we can assume that had the 7000 refugees not fled, around 154 causalities would be possible according to numbers available. (Again, combatants AND civilians)

Would you trade 154 Syrian persons against 10 country men of you? Would you trade 30 foreign citizens against 10 of your countrymen?

I like maths so I liked this calculation, but people who get into PUBLIC debates about stuff like that DO NOT BELONG into the public!!!! S****** B****!

Because those are both very very well guarded and thus any attack is likely to have very limited 'success'.


You asked about the number of Muslims in Poland. I replied that nobody really knows but anybody who has been to Warsaw recently (i.e. not you) will have seen that there are more clearly religious Muslim women in Warsaw than Vietnamese women and there are reputed to be tens of thousands of Vietnamese in Warsaw.


Not at all. There are certainly religious Muslim women who choose not to wear a hijab, I know a couple of them in Warsaw. Perhaps you'd care to quote me claiming that there is a large Muslim community in Warsaw? Or is that just yet another thing you simply made up? There is not a large Muslim community in Warsaw but there certainly is a Muslim community in Warsaw and it is clearly growing. Not even the nationalists here seem to have much of a problem about that, just look at them all queuing up for kebabs after their annual march of morons.

I'd reply to more of your content but the last time I put four quote in a post (which was in the bin) I got a warning. Apparently rules here change even faster than the Muslim community in Poland grows.

Why do you automatically think that's a good thing (if true)? Most muslim communities in Europe seem to make modest economic contributions compared to the welfare and prison burden they impose....

When ex-Soviet Polsih prisoners and slave labourers fled to Persia during WW2 and Polish orphans were helped by an Indian maharajah, the helped Poles were grateful but did not try to take over or ikmpose on their their benefactors Cathtlicism or the Polish way of life. So only Middle Easterners as abysmally stupid as certain PF posters would be sjurprised that Poles resent the Musli m terrorism spilling across Europe.

Because he is an agitant who has never lived amongst muslims of any significant number. Seeing an occasional woman in a hijab is that memorable that he deems to write about it in a forum like it's some special event whereas members on here who have real experience of living amongst muslims don't even notice the attire of people we walk past on the streets.

I don't address his fake points because they are worthy of an intellectual argument-I address them because otherwise more impressionable people visiting this forum would have a distorted view of Poland and the question of Islamification of Europe.

The guy even thinks the IRA and Islamic extremists are comparable !

Mods-sorry for the over-quoting previously but it's difficult to know which of the many untruths Harry makes I need to correct.

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