Pubs in Poznan kick out Roma?

ha ha ... its not because you are white that you get refused jarnowa ... its because "WHAT YOU HAVE MADE YOURSELF INTO!"


No ... it just proves that you couldn't have a heart big enough.

Coincidentally yesterday I met a Belgian couple ... and their two children, among them the most beautiful little 2 yrs old daughter! :D ... but you wont like then, because one of the parent was colored. While they would avoid you, because you are nothing but negativity to their joyous life... and those kids should run away from you, because you probably would hate them.

Roma are European people ... people like Hitler had the greatest amount of hatred for them. Follow that man then... if you wish. But remember, in this way you will never get peace (let alone a good woman in your life). Even if you do end up getting a woman, it will be just because even dogs get bi*ches and its not a big deal ... and she won't be anything but a 30 min night and a life time of pain - or just trash you in the 30th second.

Improve in your soul when its still time. Otherwise your hatred will keep rotting in your heart and stink ... while more hatred will also keep it heavy and troublesome.

If you dont like colored partners. Its your choice! But for this you don't need to hate colored people (those who are good at heart and educated) just because they found their love in a white woman/man.

Learn to live.

Yes, to an extent.


The problem is people being refused based entirely on their ethnicity, background - whatever - and not because of them as an individual.

Just as an employer can refuse to employ someone for a variety of reasons, it can't be because they are a woman, gay, roma etc.

That is discrimination. But I wouldn't expect you to understand.


Well I don't think anyone is getting "sentimental" about them - just realistic.

You seemed to be make invidious comparisons between them and gypsies & roma - who have their own sizebale share of scumbags too. I've encountered enough of them for anyone to form a bad impression also.


Has anyone here tried to maintain otherwise? Gypsy "culture", roma "culture" and plenty of so called civilised/settled cultures - they are all primitive, backward, sexist, homophobic etc etc

very much so. In UK our primary schools are more or less brainwashing children that only Jews suffered in WW2.
When I told my kids that not only Jews suffred and there was more to WW2 than Ann Frank, they looked surprised, as this is how it had been presented to them.

doing their own thing. Maybe your kids primary school has a narrow view,or maybe its more that Anne Frank's story connected with your kids in the same way I still remember a book we read at that age in school about a kid living in the rubble of Warsaw.

My mates daughter has just finished her WW2 "module" and from what she was telling me (and asking endless questions) about was learning of Child evacuees,The Blitz,Rationing,Battle of Britain,Normandy and VE day.

Not sure if she even knows yet that we fought Japan too. But thats the point,you cant claim something in primary school is all a child is going to be exposed to.

Id also add that you could argue that kids for decades here have been "brainwashed" into despise the British Empire...one quick look on say youtube's comments shows how well that worked for the sinnister unnamed "brainwashers" of our youth.

ps,"Brainwashing" Western term for Chi Com "re-education" method used in the Korean war to convert US/UK etc POWs into good little communist turn coats. All post war studies confirmed that " Brainwashing" even in those extreme cases,only lasted with any effect for a maximum of 6 weeks after exposure......

its hardly a liftimes damgage unless the person brainwashed didnt have much up top to begin with.

They can refuse ugly people, they can refuse unhealthy looking people, working class people, people with the wrong clothes, guys with beards, people with tattoos, people with the wrong expression on their face, etc.

All because the owner wants the right people in his place. It's a personal preference or for business reasons or a mix of reasons.

Who are other people to say that such owner MUST allow Roma people, or people with tattoos etc. in HIS place?


I understand, but i don't agree with the State telling pub owners that they have to let in people against their will.

or white men I suppose.

Is that the voice of experience I hear speaking?

no problem ;)

pubs for gays, pubs for Roma, pubs for whites, pubs for blacks, i don't see the problem.
it's all about freedom. :)

why should all pubs be for everyone, without exception?

because people like Harry otherwise cry about discrimination?

no no, my plan about opening "Club Darkness", just brown people and white women....ahh yea!

Good luck.You will need it.And don't forget to insure the place, you know it won't be long before "Club Darkness" turn into smoldering rubble.

That's my exit strategy

I searched the David Baddiel Doc-y, do you mean "Baddiel and the Missing Nazi Billions" if you know a place I can watch it for free, without having to give my card details over the net, that would be appreciated.

He was also on "Who do you think you are?" and covered his family's time in Britian during the war.

Interesting, Jerry Springer as born in Britain to Jewish war-time refugees.

No they are not....they are folks from India originally...you can still see it if you would take a better look.

Living across Europe for century's, but never being able to adapt and to fit in. Most of them following age old backward traditions (forced marriage at twelve) are rarely interested in higher education or hard regular labor etc.

Not our problem.
But when they take to the european streets begging and being criminal, not paying taxes THEN they become our problem.

German towns have lots of problems with immigrated Roma who send their children out to beggar for the criminal clans.
Bremen for example found a solution...they forbade giving money to minors...a short time later Roma vanished from the town center.

There is nothing european about them!


Oh stop that bloating!
How is your racist "Slavic Union" coming along? Romas aren't Slavs either btw....

There is someone else who came from Germany said something similar ... and then along with his Final Solution, he had some solutions for the Roma aswell.

They are European enough as they have been here for generations. For some folks no one is greater than themselves, its not an aggregate European sentiment, so I guess you can keep that to yourself (not to mention be ashamed of it aswell).

There've been mafia, drug lords, all kinds of maniacs etc who have caused alot more harm to Europe and the European people that these folks. It is better to try and rehabilitate them with sincere and better policies. The policies are lacking, nothing else, otherwise these people are just as human as any other human in Europe or across the world.

Many of the Indians here in Europe since just recent generations are doing very well. The richest man in UK is an Indian business owner I read somewhere (Mittal metals I guess). Its not a matter of which ancient ethnicity they belong to ... its a matter of rehabilitating and giving them the European respect which they deserve, being here for such a long time!

You can't tolerate them ... and some people of ur likes would go ahead with devastating policies against them ... or just move ahead with half hearted efforts to help them and then like morons declare "There people are not human enough to be helped..." ... so whats the solution? .. "eh ... lets go for a FINAL SOLUTION".

Nope ... that might be your way of thinking, but definitely not the aggregate European way of thinking. Not at all.


It doesn't matter until they are humans. My idea about the Slavic Union had no racism in it. Even the name if considered misfit, could easily be changed. But for someone who cannot think beyond sadism, I don't get surprised.

And?

Did they learn from that and adapted to fit in better? Nooooo....


Nah...more like Bremens laws are needed. Make it uncomfortable for them...then they will leave on their own sooner or later when they can't make an easy dime anymore.


Heh:)

Wanna make a poll how popular the Gypsies are in Europe?

PS: You hypocrite you...the Roma wouldn't be allowed to enter your slavic only union club either. So stop playing the self-righteous lawyer here. That mask slipped from you long ago...

How about just helping whoever wants to integrate with open arms, and the ones that want to continue with unacceptable behavior should be ostracized for it?

Main problem are the traditional family hierarchies...it is very hard/impossible for a Roma youngster to leave that. Most are really deeply caught in their parallel world....

Your a person who is desperate ... and nothing else. I've always been very clear in all my stance, and never had any mask ...


Its not even about popularity, its about what is right and what is wrong. First of all, I have strong belief about the goodness of people in Europe. Secondly, what is right will always be favored by humans with hearts which still beat in favor of love and peace.

But corrupt hearts have a difficult time believing. They are too interested to make sure that everything and every slightest aspect in the world is as painful as their pain-engrossed eyes can see it.

Here ... end of story. Whatever you wanna feel go ahead. I've made my point.

Status Quo?

Yeah...it was me calling for a "Germanic only Union"....suuuure....


Absolutely!

Keeping your children from being educated but forcing them to beg and steal for the clan on the streets is WRONG!

Forcing a young girl against their will to marry a much older man on behalf of the clan chief is
WRONG!

Settling wild without paying any taxes and leaving behind a dirty waste land when they move on is WRONG!

etc.....


You farted a stink as usual...

They need to be pulled out from any trash situation they are found in ... and trained to be self sufficient, educated etc. There needs to be a total flow of attention, without any pollution of hatred/condemnation or thought/feeling that they are different than any other European.

Policies need to be properly applied. Even the desert dwellers of Libya got into better lifestyles by some policies. It is definitely possible, the matter is how much heart and intention is involved into it.

Re-education camps?

Nazi or Soviet style....hmmmm....

The greatest wrong is to hate and demean, as well as discriminate somebody... look into history how they have been discriminated. It has appalled various authors from Europe.


No ... thats the stink coming from your mouth ... thats what happens when you have a brain full of ****.

Roma really do have the best interests of their children at heart don't they?

Oh please....your wolf crying get's really lame after awhile, especially as that's your only contribution to an otherwise interesting discussion!

*yaaaaawn*

How about removing the children from their situation, providing them a stable loving environment, including a proper education complete with skills and societal training. To prevent more children from being introduced to the problem, forced sterilization of adults (over the age of 12 for example) might be in order.

Your interest lays in hatred ... you will find anything other than that boring.


Do something ... watch "Hunchback of Notredam" ... I know its for some gentlemen and women a "kidstuff" ... but sometimes there'z lot to learn from anywhere.

There needs to be trust built into them. That is a long process. But the first thing is to rebuild them at any cost whatsoever. Policies need to be introduced accordingly ... the bigger the problem, the better the policies. Unless they are considered as our own, our children, our likes - we are not really going to get anywhere with them. There is no solution other than this with them.

...I'm not prepared to accept another dictatorship just for being able to "re-educate" the Gypsies...

Why not send the people in question Lodz-the-boat's way...he would surely be willing to provide shelter and food for them in his garden...

But don't you understand? It's their WAY OF LIFE. They don't want to be trained or educated. They like things just they way they are. Get real for once - go out and start talking to Romas about this. Ask them outright how they feel about you ideals. They'll let you know in no uncertain terms, or maybe they'll just laugh out loud.