Pro-Israel lobby to be formed in Polish parliament

Thought this was interesting:


jpost.com/Diaspora/Pro-Israel-lobby-to-be-formed-in-Polish-parliament-404629

No body wanna post a reply to your message as I can see but I'll make an attempt just to please you, friend.

The first remarkable thing that should be noted here, is the fact that they dared to open their mouths to make this great public statement only after the presidential election. They had enough wisdom to suppose that such a statement made before the election could have negative effects

on their candidate . We can only state that a remarkable Jewish carefulness was demonstrated.

By the way, In the Polish parliament there already exist Ukrainian, Lithuanian and German lobby (groups).
Probably a pro Russian lobby is also desirable as a counterweight to preserve the political balance.

The Other: Polish Parliamentary Israel Allies Caucus

It shows one thing -- the Israelis are on the ball. Every nation, global corporation and other interest group has lobbies strategically positioned where they can influence lawmakers. I wonder where Poland has such lobbyists. Again, I repeat for the zillionth time -- Poles should follow the Jewish example in terms of intra-ethnic moral and practical solidarity rather than tearing each other down, of which the Polish-Polish war has been a prime example.

From a purely ethical standpoint, this is legalised corruption. A lawmaker is lavishly wined and dined, may get various gifts and gratuities on the side, the least toxic of which would be generous donations to his favourite charity, with maybe a free holiday in Tahiti for himself and his family thrown into the bargain -- in the hope that he will vote the way the lobbyist wants. But the world is not guided all that much by ethical considerations.

Oh, I didn't know that. Do you have some links so that I can read up on it? Thanks.


That's what I thought, too - especially since I know how much AIPAC influences politics here in the US.'

What also surprised me is the reference to "shared Judeo-Christian values". Relations between the RCC and Judaism haven't been particularly good for a very, very long time. How strong are traditionalist catholics in Poland, do you guys know?

Yes. And the leader of the group is from PiS.

What a surprise.

sure. All would like to take part in control of Poland. Problem is that when Slavs rising their head, all others joins efforts against Slavs. Poland and Poles as Slavs aren`t excluded from this general rule.

forumemjot.wordpress.com/2015/06/05/jan-dziedziczak-w-sejmie-nie-powstanie-grupa-lobbujaca-na-rzecz-izraela-komentarz-do-dementi/


So consider it (Jerusalem Post Article) a Jewish joke for the present

Quite a lot of pro-Israel feeling here - Jan Paweł II was a supporter of Israel (and hated anti-Semitism) which has had some effect.

Do you think it's okay that a foreign nation - Israel or any other - manipulates domestic politics of another country in such a way?

On May 13th the Vatican recognized the state of Palestine. Good for Roman-Catholicism and bad for the racist Zionist scum that think they can dispossess the Palestinian people and keep them stateless. Polish Christians are overwhelmingly Roman-Catholic. Recognizing the human rights of Palestinians is the Christian thing to do. Supporting the racist state of Israel is wrong.

Any organisation, state, group etc has the right to lobby politicians. Israel is not the only country to retain lobbyists and no harm at all for one country to want to build up trading and cultural links with another.

In this case especially, the two countries have very deep links. Although time and the grim reaper is reducing the number of Israelis who were born in Poland, many families there have their roots in Poland.

And Jan Paweł II's love for Israel and the Jewish people has left its mark.

Local groups and organizations? Yes. Foreign nations buying politicians? No! I don't know how familiar you are with AIPAC, but if you'd watch them openly corrupting politicians in D.C. you would start questioning the democratic foundation of the political system in the US as well.

I'm not sure that lobbying for economic and cultural reasons is the same as buying politicians at all. If there are bribes or other secret payments then yes, there's a problem. If it's employing lobbyists to promote, say, exports or investment then it's fairly normal.

The Pope is of great authority to us, of course.
But.
The term anti-Semitic is vague and can be interpreted in a hundred ways, I can only guess what interpretation was meant by the Pope. IMHO the Jews have a tendency to regard any criticism as an anti-Jewish act. (oy! vey! )

We, goys, probably have the right to protect themselves from some Jewish inventions like Communism and the Frankfurt School and their neo-Marxist ideas, call it anti-Semitism, if you like, I do not mind.

Given centuries of pogroms followed by the holocaust, and even those people who make strange comments online like "oy vey (not a Hebrew phrase and rarely used today - "oy vavoy" is better) who could possibly blame them.


All of which have far wider appeal than within the community you associate them with and indeed have notable proponents who are Poles. When Israel (or any other counry except perhaps Cuba, and even then..) lobby a government, the very capitalistic concept of international trade and development is doubtless closer to their intentions.

No surprise, no surprise here, Jon, taking into account the Diaspora's geographic dispersion .
Nevertheless we can easily distinguish and recognize something that can be identified as a basis or a foundation. Let's have a closer look at this

phenomenon :

HENRYK CIMEK
JEWS IN THE POLISH COMMUNIST MOVEMENT. See p. 55-56 (available on line)
politologia.univ.rzeszow.pl/.../Henryk_Ci..


Now it's about the appeal mentioned above by you, we can regard this KPP, taking into account the share of Jews, as a Jewish-dominated

organization that disseminated alien propaganda that didn't really appeal to the locals, especially to Poles.

And the same source (that confirms other numerous sources ):


Well, jewish nationalist tendencies even .... even in an international movement and organization such as communist party. Even don't know what to think about those who weren't in the International movement .

I do not want to elaborate on the subject of Russia here, so just several links for you :

davidduke.com/solzhenitsyn-the-incredible-disappearing-man/


And again, we see a Jewish-dominated organization that disseminated alien propaganda that didn't really appeal to the locals

By the way According to the data provided by the Russian Political Police before the Russian Revolution Jews constituted more that 50% of
the well known party.

There were similar events during the so called German Revolution 1918, Hungarian Soviet Republic 1919.

Needless to say, members of the Frankfurt School were both Marxist and Jewish.
By the way, the Frankfurt school never criticized or even described Jewish group identity or Jewish culture

And again, we see a Jewish organization that disseminated alien propaganda that didn't really appeal to the locals

An now, Jony, make an attempt to find something in common among these countries and events. Do not forget.to share your findings with us.

Please stick to the topic about Polish Parliament lobby

Well, this lobbying provokes controvercy and it probably is desirable to know why, which requires some knowledge of the background ( = the situation or past events that explain why something happens in the way that it does)

Except that not one word you posted gives any info about the background. The fact that the country involved is majority Jewish (as well as your views about Jewish people that you frequently expound here) has no relevance whatsoever.

Many countries use lobbyists to promote trade, development and cultural links, and everything here is entirely transparent and legal.

What prevents to create Jewish lobby in Poland then ?

What's the point? ¾ of PM are Jewish or atheist (Jewish claiming being atheist)

Look up AIPAC in the USA, and when you find out the power it has over a politician to win or lose, control its vote, smear its name, set it up for scandal, to write policy through think tanks and endorsement outside the normal process of law, you understand it better. they influence foreign policy as well.

Cynthia McKinney tells the story well.

Rev. 3:9

I don't call that anti-semitism. I call it stupidity.
What's your point here? Do you think that a pro-Israel lobby in Poland would be aiming to bring communism to Poland? Are you that clueless about history? Just as a point of information: Israel was never a communist country. Poland was. Israel's communist party was tiny and had to join together with an Arab anti-zionist party to get enough votes to be in the Knesset. In Poland, in contrast, the communist party ruled. Communism is and always has been anti-Israel.

Well, seams that Israel have more respect for Polish interests then Poland`s NATO and EU partners.

Spot this >

"I'll say it very clearly - Israel doesn't recognize Kosovo"

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Any info on how function that pro-Israel lobby formed in Polish parliament? What are moves of that lobby, their suggestions to Polish parliament?

Slavs, Poles included, should accept hand offered by Jews. Jews have much more honesty then western Europeans. After all, they have bravery to accept Slavs as equal.

LOL. Oh boy Crow, you must not be familiar with the Talmud.

@Dirk diggler
He is totally oblivious to how they feel about the Goyim! Lol......Viva Serbian education and RT propaganda...

I don`t know for you people but, I would hold to very simple facts. That is, did you ever heard that any western European, any Anglo, Franco or Germanic leader openly admits and speak about Slavic antiquity? For sure, you never heard that. But see, that is very important. Always is important to be aware of its own place in history and then future becoming more clearer. So, why minimize Slavic contribution to global civilization? Really, why? Why publicly promote utter lie about late arrival of Slavs in Europe? To whom, to which politics serve these lies?

You see, Israel acknowledged Slavic antique history. PM of Israel Netanyahu speaks publicly of it. So, as a decent person, my respect to him and to Israeli people. There were misunderstandings in history but, we Serbs won`t spit on offered hand.

Why would I care for Talmud. Back in era of slavery, when Slavs were hunted, bearers of Bible, Koran and Talmud equally hurried in their dirty business. All they committed crimes on Svetovid and children of Slavia (ie Sarmatia).

We can`t forget past, but, if hand is offered in reconciliation, if our past isn`t denied, at least, we can think.

@Crow

By reconciliation do you mean statements such as 'goyim were born only to serve us without that they have no place in the world' by the same chief rabbi of israel that netanyahu buddied with?

I only can hope for the day that poles are able to get away with half of the shyt Zionists say and do.

There is no hand offered to any slavs that's purely for reconciliation or for slavs benefit. The only hand offered to Slavs were Jewish slavs and even that was simply a means to an end. In the late 60s and 70s the Soviets allowed Jews to leave after the war with israel due to pressure from American Zionist groups that were concerned about antisemitism in USSR. The Soviets wisely emptied their jails of hardcore Jewish criminals (and non jewish) along with some Soviet spies mixed in with legit Jewish families. These same criminals have decades long careers in organized crime and who now live in israel bc the state refuses to extrade them for all the things they've done in us, Brazil, australia, all over the world.

Same as with the jews still in europe. Israel only wants to help jewish slavs - mostly ukranian jews along w french, german, hungarian jews namely to move them into subsidized housing in occupied Palestine to help with the governments campaign of gradual ethnic cleansing of the west bank, with americas financial assistance. And yet the Zionist dominated msm continues to paint the Palestinians as the wrongdoers for not allowing occupiers to live in peace.