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pawian  221 | 25381  
9 Sep 2011 /  #31
=Ironside]He also asked for more monies

That`s correct.
Anything against?
Crow  154 | 9341  
9 Sep 2011 /  #32
Where do you see the fractious split with the EU coming about, Crow?

many but still, hard to say

Anyway, Poland isn`t small country and Poles aren`t small ethos. Poles would respond on situation and frictions are inevitable. Nobody can`t prevent information's to flow. Poles would pledge to liberate itself and all players taking part in the game and follow their interests

Do you feel that the federalists in Europe will get ahead of themselves and thrust unreasonable demands on Poland?

among else

What will change NATO's stance?

calculations
Seanus  15 | 19666  
9 Sep 2011 /  #33
So, what guarantees can Serbs offer Poles?

Crow, politicians are Slavs by default only.

These two are natural Slavs who share common heritage. Fedor was born in Ukraine and Igor Vovchanchyn is Ukrainian. Fedor speaks Russian and a little Ukrainian but I'm sure they understood each other. Can you say the same about politicians? They speak the language of greed and power.

youtube.com/watch?v=2ERANCFKhP0

nice video. The Japanese guy is saying that Igor isn't drinking much. Best not start that with vodka-drinking Slavs, LOL.
Crow  154 | 9341  
9 Sep 2011 /  #34
Sean, all in all, things goes exactly as it suits to the Poland`s strategic interests. Poles are lucky
Seanus  15 | 19666  
10 Sep 2011 /  #35
Those strategic interests being? One man's interests are another man's pitfall.
Crow  154 | 9341  
10 Sep 2011 /  #36
Germany is stupid. Their pressure on Serbs exposed evil German intentions on Poles and Polish patriots are now on alert.

still, falling deeper in mistake, Germany increased pressure on Serbs. So, idiotic Germany finally got Russian attention. While in case of Poland (Central Europe in general), Russia deluded itself about eventually possible historical agreement with Germany, Serbian question finally opened Russian eyes in case with German intentions.

Now, in between business talks, Russians are more willing to listen Serbian ideas... and Serbs are always full of nice ideas. See,.. recent Serbian idea is about territorial unity of Kaliningrad Oblast and Lusatia, via that part of what is today`s eastern Germany. Russians love the idea, i can tell you that one. Poles could love it, too. Eventually
Seanus  15 | 19666  
10 Sep 2011 /  #37
But Putin sympathises with Germans and even speaks their language fluently, Crow. Remember, he is a businessman first and foremost but also a Russian patriot. He could have plenty conflicts of interest. He likes Serbs, esp Serbian bikers ;)

He might see Serbian-Polish ties as undermining Russia's stronghold over your country. Anyway, to be continued :) :) Dobrej nocy :)
Crow  154 | 9341  
10 Sep 2011 /  #38
But Putin sympathises with Germans and even speaks their language fluently, Crow.

yes. Its like when i wanted to learn Latin. Death language

Remember, he is a businessman first and foremost but also a Russian patriot.

being Russian patriot today means being for business first

He could have plenty conflicts of interest.

yes

He likes Serbs, esp Serbian bikers ;)

exactly

He might see Serbian-Polish ties as undermining Russia's stronghold over your country.

no, no. Russia is aware that Serbs means life to Poland and, Russia won`t complicate. Russia need that Poland and Serbia live. On their western borders its enough to them. They have greater maneuverable space in other directions. Don`t worry, i`m absolutely positive about it

Anyway, to be continued :) :) Dobrej nocy :)

yes. Da, dobra noc. Laku noc :)
Seanus  15 | 19666  
10 Sep 2011 /  #39
I can't agree with your second statement, Crow. There are plenty of Russian patriots that have no knowledge or experience of business. Only a select few get truly rich in Russia and they love money, not their land so much.

As for Tusk being in Krynica, I don't think he knows what he is getting himself in for. He has joined the discussions at a very late stage and the ball has been rolling for a long time. He is a bishop at best but he'll be made to feel like a pawn. Enjoy the champagne and caviar, Donald, as that's all you'll take from the meeting.
OP Ironside  50 | 12387  
10 Sep 2011 /  #40
I hoped for some input from his supporters. As it is, he can talk and prime but it is all meaningless PR enterprise, somebody else is calling the shots.

His words sounds hollow and weak.
Question is are majority of Poles brainwashed enough to support the EU and her puppets.
pawian  221 | 25381  
10 Sep 2011 /  #41
=Ironside]Question is are majority of Poles brainwashed enough to support the EU and her puppets.

Yes, we are! Don`t you know that the Polish support for EU at about 80% (the highest in EU, probably) has been steady for years?????

Fortunately. :):):):)

Ironside, it is not 80% Poles who are brainwashed. It is you who is brainwashed. Don`t you realise this? ??????

You have a good brain laundrette there in US?????

:):):):):):):):)
Grzegorz_  51 | 6138  
11 Sep 2011 /  #42
to further promote integration

It's terribly sad that our "leader's" only vision for this country is to beg for more foreign money.
Seanus  15 | 19666  
11 Sep 2011 /  #43
Good point, Greg. He'll have to haggle to get the repayment rate down.
pawian  221 | 25381  
11 Sep 2011 /  #44
=Grzegorz_]It's terribly sad that our "leader's" only vision for this country is to beg for more foreign money.

If you lived here, you would see how this money works wonders for Poles.

And don`t call it begging. Call it claiming. :):):)
delphiandomine  86 | 17823  
11 Sep 2011 /  #45
It's terribly sad that our "leader's" only vision for this country is to beg for more foreign money.

Who else is going to pay for it?

I certainly don't see those "renta" types bothering to lift a finger to help Poland.
OP Ironside  50 | 12387  
11 Sep 2011 /  #46
Ironside, it is not 80% Poles who are brainwashed. It is you who is brainwashed. Don`t you realise this? ??????

Really? Somehow I doubt that, both percent you claim and brainwash. Don't you realize that every brainwashed individual can be easily recognized by a display of uncontrollable grimaces on his/her face, sometimes mistaken for smiles.

You post give away state of your mind.
Look at the bright side - at least your brain is clean.:)
pawian  221 | 25381  
11 Sep 2011 /  #47
=Ironside]Really? Somehow I doubt that, both percent you claim and brainwash. Don't you realize that every brainwashed individual can be easily recognized by a display of uncontrollable grimaces on his/her face, sometimes mistaken for smiles. You post give away state of your mind.

I am only amused by the pranks of trolls here.

As for Euro Union support in Poland, I even underestimated it. Actually, it is 86%, not 80%.

What will you say to that?
:):):):):)
Grzegorz_  51 | 6138  
11 Sep 2011 /  #48
Who else is going to pay for it?

Pay for what, courses for +50 y.o. village women, where they are taught how to turn on a computer ? Cash for peasants with 3 shitted cows, which stop them from giving it up and looking for a normal job ? Overpriced roads, which we will not afford to maintain properly ? Show me any country, which became wealthy thanks to foreign aid.
OP Ironside  50 | 12387  
11 Sep 2011 /  #49
As for Euro Union support in Poland, I even underestimated it. Actually, it is 86%, not 80%.

What will you say to that?
:):):):):)

I would say that 80% of all who bothered to vote - so 80% out of 40 % of those entitled to vote in Poland, lets be generous 50% !
It is not smashing majority, given that mass media in Poland are full of pro EU bias and propaganda....
pawian  221 | 25381  
11 Sep 2011 /  #50
=Ironside]I would say that 80% of all who bothered to vote - so 80% out of 40 % of those entitled to vote in Poland, lets be generous 50% !

Huh! I knew you would reply rubbish.

86% of support from all Poles, not voters only.
OP Ironside  50 | 12387  
11 Sep 2011 /  #51
Source !

Pay for what, courses for +50 y.o. village women, where they are taught how to turn on a computer ? Cash for peasants with 3 shitted cows, which stop them from giving it up and looking for a normal job ? Overpriced roads, which we will not afford to maintain properly ? Show me any country, which became wealthy thanks to foreign aid.

I knew you will ignore above.
What happened with your smiles? If you will try to block your uncontrollable grimace syndrome you may get jaw-lock.
Crow  154 | 9341  
12 Sep 2011 /  #52
i understand Tusk. No sh** with EU, NATO and Saudi Arabia
pawian  221 | 25381  
12 Sep 2011 /  #53
=Ironside]I knew you will ignore above.

Yes, I sometimes overlook Grzegorz`s posts. I just perfectly know their contents without reading. :):):)

You are lucky I still read all your posts! :):):) Though it is such a waste of time. But fun too. :):):)

=Ironside]Source !

The presence of Poland in the EU supports 86 percent . surveyed in the first half of April by CBOS , 9 percent . referred to as its opponents , and 5 per cent . is undecided on this issue . Social support for Polish membership in the EU has continued since the beginning of the accession to the EU at the highest level . Compared to the same study, which CBOS conducted in June 2009 , the number of supporters of our presence in the structures of the EU increased by 1 percentage point . At the same time by the same group decreased its opponents .

35 percent . respondents can not unambiguously determine whether earned or lost on membership . Respondents having a definite opinion on the matter , more often declare that they have personally benefited more from the membership (43 percent . ) Than it lost ( 12 percent . ) .


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