Will many Poles migrate to Germany in May 2011 (after opening labor market)?

I fully agree! :)

Yes i mean you. The point is youre apposed to Poles living and working in other countries although you yourself are Polish and do not work or even live in Poland. In order to preach the issues you do i believe you need to lead from the top, you cant expect somebody else to do something you yourself are not prepared to do.

Me thinks that you are over beating the egg just a little. I only partially agree with you, there have been many positive stories as well.

Will there be an EU in May 2011 or just "not as we know it"

I think it would work without a hitch if the fiscally unsound nations were removed. If you can't manage your finances, suspension along with punitive measures. The labor markets should be opened much slower for the poorer nations than they have been.

May2011, not so big a change...

Many Poles already work legally in Germany. All you need is an invitation.

I don't think it will be a big change next year.

By the way, most Polish who go abroad in Europe to work, return to PL sooner or later.

Germany, of course, is nearer to Poland than Britain is - it shares a long land border, so migrants can return and spend more easily.

Talking about the numbers of emigrants, Poland's Minister of Labour Jolanta Fedak said on Polish radio: "We are looking at 300,000 to 400,000 people, but over a period of three to four years."

bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-13222354

Poles moving to Germany?

Hmmm, perhaps I should start trying to teach German... "Was machst du in dein freizeit?"

bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-13222354

France get's all the arab north africans and we get the Poles....I like that! :)

Be carefull what you wish for,we still have scores to even.

What do you mean with that?

German national football team, sabotage... unhealthy diets... injuries... All done by an magical Polish nurse...
Be carefull! ;)

*No good to win with Poles in football!*

My eagle eye will see everything! :)

In Zn?

Funnily enough, I recall a Spanish minister saying something like "We could have X number of Poles or X number of Africans, so we'll take the Poles"


Yeah, but there was also a Polish boxing world champion and a Polish Eurovision entry...

Tyson is from the US.

spiegel.


Didn't I say so! :)

I am considering moving to Germany, however I'm going to need to polish off mein Deutsch and finish my degree here in the UK, so it'll be a while.

But only if I'll be able to find a job that corresponds with my education. That's probably the biggest hurdle in finding job here - I don't know much about the local jobs market and how willing would the employers be to employ me. I hear that Germans are more 'rigid' in this regard. Other issue could be acceptance of the (local) society, so I'd most likely live in a big town and keep a low profile (that's the way I'm living here, anyway).

I mean "Never forgive,never forget".

No. People who thought of migrating have already done it, to Ireland, Britain, Holland etc.

Language barrier is the main problem - Germans require German speaking immigrants, while most young Poles learnt English at schools or universities.

I think the Poles will be better absorbed in Germany than in the UK.There will be no antipolish sentiment in Germany like in the UK.It is also a chance for Germany to get rid of the Turks.

Now that is wishful thinking... ;)

Boy, which immigrants would you prefer: Poles or Turks?

Wanna bet?


Yeah, send 'em all to Serbia.

Europe for Europeans! :)

One of the main things that interest me about you BB, is that you live(d?) in East Germany during communism.
You really have many things to educate me on about this period and are very informative about it.
But (always a but) back then, you and Poland were the "enemy".
Youz were gonna come over to us in "West" Europe and be the enemy within.
By infiltration and manipulation turn us free loving people into some kinda commie paradise.
I am building up my question here...;)

What's the difference?
People want better lives, the media and politicians spin it and we (the people) divide.
While the bankers, politicians and some multinationals not only get bailouts (from ******* tax payers no less) and pats on the back for driving their companies into the ground but also get away Scot free.

I say **** Europe for Europeans, I say criminals be put in prison despite race, colour, creed or nationality.

Rant over :)

Your diplomacy is astounding, BB ;)

For those who can read Polish, there is nice satirical article by S. Mizerski, here:
polityka.pl/spoleczenstwo/felietony/1515272,1,z-zycia-sfer.read

I'll try to summarize:
He starts with the dooming prediction that after May the 1st there will be nobody left to finish the projects that were born in such difficulties: the second subway line in Warsaw, the stadiums for the Euro 2012 and the North Bridge - not to mention missing highways.

He then says:
Although the latter are to be build by the Chinese, but seeing what happens, they may also decide to flee. Pessimists anticipate that the only specialists to remain in the country will be the experts in memorials and manufacturers of crosses, candles and torches; that is, the experts in the areas neglected by the West, but which in Poland experience a new Renaissance, and even more - the Middle Ages.

(...)
Then he states that: Opening up of the German market could be a chance for Poles working in the Netherlands. and then explains the Dutch grievances about Poles: they drink, park cars badly, party all night and they do not even speak Dutch.

(...)
But: We must agree that the accusation of the lack of Dutch language skills is particularly biased, because if our countrymen learned the basics of the language then they would began demanding better wages from their Dutch hosts, and consequently the misunderstandings between the two sides would only intensify.

(...)
Some concerns are being raised that by leaving the Netherlands, our compatriots will force the Dutch to do all that murderous work for them, and consequently this would further worsen the current opinion about the Poles: adding the epithet of the loafer to the existing ones of the drunkard and the party animal ignoramus.

(...)
There are suggestions that Poland should retaliate by deciding to expel all unemployed Poles - at least those who drink, party all time, badly park and do not even know any Dutch. The effects of such a step could be devastating for the Netherlands.

AFAIK Poles are the best integrated group in Germany, and marriages between Poles and Germans are the most successful intermarriages in Germany. Germany also already hosts the second biggest Polonia in the world, and you never heard of any trouble.

Especially for me.