Strange to see people calling something a cover-up when it's front-page news and has been for ages. What is it being covered-up with? Newspaper?
Poland is the source of horsemeat in burgers?
What has been covered up and is now exposed is the fallibility of the much lauded farm traceability scheme set up in the wake of the BSE scandal.
Multi layered trading in food stuffs makes it possible to hide from open and honest inspection. It’s difficult to discover who owns large consignments of meat or trace it back to the point of origin let alone be confident in what animal the flesh came from.
Ministers are not being honest retailers are not being honest (Several knew of the horse adulteration weeks before going public) the meat industry certainly isnt being honest. When the Irish authorities uncovered this practice they asked the UK to start a criminal/Police investigation, an investigation only started after the Irish provided proof of wrong doing the foot dragging and failings in UK food safety practices have been exposed.
Multi layered trading in food stuffs makes it possible to hide from open and honest inspection. It’s difficult to discover who owns large consignments of meat or trace it back to the point of origin let alone be confident in what animal the flesh came from.
Ministers are not being honest retailers are not being honest (Several knew of the horse adulteration weeks before going public) the meat industry certainly isnt being honest. When the Irish authorities uncovered this practice they asked the UK to start a criminal/Police investigation, an investigation only started after the Irish provided proof of wrong doing the foot dragging and failings in UK food safety practices have been exposed.
So any latest news on English horse meat ?
covered up and is now exposed
That's precisely what it wasn't. The imported contaminated meat was discovered through normal procedures and the information was publicised from the start. A funny definition of cover-up and exposure.
There are two things going on contaminated meat, meat that should never have entered the food chain and meat passed off as something else. Both of these things were supposed to be impossible with the farm traceability scheme which was introduced because of the BSE crisis brought about by lax UK food practices.
Patterson and other ministers have assured the public that the product is safe just not cow that is wrong.
It’s perfectly clear that the traceability scheme is a nonsense, UK food testing in this area was practically non existent before they were warned by others.
Patterson and other ministers have assured the public that the product is safe just not cow that is wrong.
In July 2012 the veterinary residues committee (VRC), which advises the government, warned that it had "repeatedly expressed concern" over bute entering the food chain.
The VRC said its concern was because bute had "the potential for serious adverse effects in consumers, such as blood dyscrasia [a rare but very serious, life-threatening, condition]".
No bute is permitted in horsemeat for human consumption, but it was found in 2-5% of samples tested between 2007 and 2011, during which time only 50 tests a year were conducted. The horse passport system meant to prevent bute contamination in the 8,000 or so horses slaughtered for meat in the UK each year was not working, a member of the VRC told the Guardian.
The VRC said its concern was because bute had "the potential for serious adverse effects in consumers, such as blood dyscrasia [a rare but very serious, life-threatening, condition]".
No bute is permitted in horsemeat for human consumption, but it was found in 2-5% of samples tested between 2007 and 2011, during which time only 50 tests a year were conducted. The horse passport system meant to prevent bute contamination in the 8,000 or so horses slaughtered for meat in the UK each year was not working, a member of the VRC told the Guardian.
It’s perfectly clear that the traceability scheme is a nonsense, UK food testing in this area was practically non existent before they were warned by others.
So any latest news on English horse meat ?
Neigh
in the UK there a no cover-ups.
It’s perfectly clear that the traceability scheme is a nonsense, UK food testing in this area was practically non existent before they were warned by others.
Now that one's just plain daft, especially as the media is full right now of something that has been traced.
Strange to see people calling something a cover-up when it's front-page news and has been for ages.
Duh, it was covered up by the people who changed lapels from horse meat to cow meat.
Glaringly obvious there Jon old chap.
Now that one's just plain daft, especially as the media is full right now of something that has been traced.
And it's been traced to where?
Oh, not Poland, oh I see.
I think you were the one lambasting Poland the most and it would seem the horse meat came from Romania.
But you would've seen that had you bothered your arse to read the info on the BBC link that I put here this morning.
in the UK there a no cover-ups.
Except in Northern Ireland or in the 70s & 80s when having a Northern Irish accent in the UK could land you in jail for 20+ years.
Yes, Britain is great, britain would never engage with such underhandness. Me bollix.
Duh, it was covered up by the people who changed lapels from horse meat to cow meat.
Now that isn't really a cover up, is it. Just a crime that someone was exposed for. You may as well call the Moors Murders a cover-up since they got away with it for a while before they were arrested.
And it's been traced to where?
Oh, not Poland, oh I see.
Oh, not Poland, oh I see.
I'd wait until the Polish connection is ruled out before saying that.
Now that one's just plain daft, especially as the media is full right now of something that has been traced
Nothing was traced in the meaning of the scheme Jon, it was discovered as part of police investigation that the UK were reluctant to have.
The presence of meat unfit for human consumption being slaughtered and exported from the UK indicated that the traceability scheme is indeed nonsense. The delays in reporting the negative results cannot be explained, Downing street over ruling ministerial advice didn’t happen either I suppose?
Defra never tested for meat type until they were warned to do so by the Irish. They only tested for bacterial contamination and banned vet products.
What is daft is taking a blind stance because of nationality
Nothing was traced in the meaning of the scheme Jon, it was discovered as part of police investigation that the UK were reluctant to have.
What makes you think the police were reluctant to investigate.
Statements from the FSA and Ministers in Britain and Ireland.
After the discovery of Horse DNA in mid January Irish Police started an investigation, the Police in Britain were not called upon to investigate by anyone until recently as results from the Irish investigation were made public.
There is now a clamour to "get" the people responsible with ministers making statements to that effect. At the beginning there were calls for calm and false reassurances from ministers, the story was seen as a labelling issue and someone else's problem.
After the discovery of Horse DNA in mid January Irish Police started an investigation, the Police in Britain were not called upon to investigate by anyone until recently as results from the Irish investigation were made public.
There is now a clamour to "get" the people responsible with ministers making statements to that effect. At the beginning there were calls for calm and false reassurances from ministers, the story was seen as a labelling issue and someone else's problem.
Now that isn't really a cover up
Yes, it is.
I'd wait until the Polish connection is ruled out before saying that
OMG, what news do you actually read? :DDDD
There isn't a single mention of Poland in that BBC link, Poland is not connected with the scandal any more than Kenya is. Not involved, simple as that.
The Polish connection is as dead as disco, the horsemeat came from Romania and the UK
What is daft is taking a blind stance because of nationality
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Marek11111 9 | 807
14 Feb 2013 / #165
problem solved
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Nickidewbear 23 | 609
26 Feb 2013 / #166
Meanwhile, Twitter's been raving about this. Horse meat was found in IKEA meatballs as well.
OK, this cracked me up. Onion's take on horsemeat:
theonion.com/articles/culinary-world-stunned-as-horse-meat-found-at-3sta,31451
theonion.com/articles/culinary-world-stunned-as-horse-meat-found-at-3sta,31451
Meanwhile, Twitter's been raving about this. Horse meat was found in IKEA meatballs as well.
So THAT is what makes them so tasty..Mmm it is my fav thing to shop there and get 15 meatball lunch plate
jasondmzk
28 Feb 2013 / #169
15 meatballs for 6 pln, I mean... you're lucky it's just horsemeat.