Poland is the source of horsemeat in burgers?

Stuff like that would be funny if it wasn't so pathetic.


It looks like they did exactly that.


Evidently you don't. You certainly seem to have forgotten about that meat scandal in Konstańcin not that long ago.

Smacznego!

No comment and further discussion with people like you because it is just a waste of my time .

If you supply yourself in Polish shops in the UK then you're right, it's not true. If you buy in Poland that's a different story. In Britain there's Asda and there's Waitrose, most groceries in those Polish shpos are the cheapest possible stuff sold for a tenfold of their Polish price

There's something in that. As far as meat is concerned, one I like in Poland is the choice of good wędliny, if you're prepared to spend a bit more, it's possible to find very good stuff. The cheap stuff is rubbish. In Britain not wedliny (especially from supermarkets) can be dodgy - best to avoid unless you know an artisan who makes it. The fresh meat shops however tend to be much better.

The moral of the story is that anything can be put into processed food and nobody knows until a quality control audit.


You mean your nonsense was exposed for what it is. Nonsense.

Funny enough neither did I- the mods must have created it.


You joking? this is the country who gave the world BSE. And now UK and Irish companies sourced meat anonymously which contained suspect materials and stamped 100% Irish/British Beef on it.


Damn right. This sort of thing has been going on for ever, all over the world. The meat industry 'money launders' meat products to hide what and where it comes from.

Why did a Irish company with abattoir in Poland buy product outside its factory? because it, like many other meat producers before it, are long term specialists at passing off crap as food..

UK food manufacturers have promised that they check the source of their food and yet again, its been shown to be a lie. Even MacDonalds are selling horse..

I don't give a damn about all this situations. It is obvious that governments in question and companies are doing everything to blame somebody else, just that stigma wouldn't be attached to their firm or their country. As it is not good for business.

What is funny that horse meant is the least harmful of crap they put in the cheap food. It wound;t be pass them to use that horse meant issue as a cover of something more sinister.

To the point:
Who do you trust more?We are talking politicians here, right? Neither both are capable of doing and saying anything as long as they can get away with.

As to your points jon!The fact that you trust the UK more do not influence facts it just make you biased. As long as you admitting that to be the truth - there is no conflict.:)

you obviously don't remember the 'made in Poland' posters then.

no, some do, yes.

Didn't surprise me one bit when i read about it.

Poland is a corrupt mess of a nation. Their people are opportunists and will stop at nothing to make a dollar.
They're over here (UK) fccking each other on a daily basis for cash.

They didn't actually 'give the world BSE', it was around a long time before that outbreak. They were however completely open about it. No whitewash, supermarket shelves empty, and the world media being answered rather than fobbed off. And now people know it is safe.


Several firms are doing that. Only one country.


Spot on. Fallen racehorses may be flown to Paris by lunchtime. There's no suggestion though that the Polish company was using Nijinsky.

Really the best way forward is to forget the normal Polish bureaucratic obfuscation and be completely open and pro-active about it. Only then will consumers in such an important market start to trust the rest of Polish meat products again.

It seems that some people prefer to get outraged at a perceived slight at their country than safeguard the livelihoods of people who work in the industry.

I'd eat a horse. Not if I knew it, first. But I guess that goes with most meat. Can't be any worse than emu or bison. Mr. Ed kinda got on my nerves. I'd definitely eat him.

Somebody is obviously telling porky pies.


emirates247.com/offbeat/crazy-world/ireland-vows-to-id-source-of-horsemeat-labeled-polish-beef-2013-02-06-1.493988

Since this source is neither Irish, British nor Polish I could say it's far less biased in its reporting.

I don't know who to believe at the minute, paper work can easily be forged and meat producers in Ireland have done it in the past unfortunately.

More likely Pony Pies.

The thing is, it doesn't matter where the meat came from, it matters where they were truned into burgers and where they were packaged.

Horse meat is ok, safe to eat etc. the point is that it was sold to a misled public.

seems you can mislead the folk to horse and make them eat.

Spot on.


My Lidl Pony.

Love it!

Did you hear that the veggy burgers contain uniquorn?

damn I was racking my brains for the next pony burger joke, and you beat me to it! and so well!

I was handed that one on a plate, so my veggy hasn't beat your meat :-)

Thats the biggest mis-description of the BSE criss I've ever heard. I could call it a lie, but maybe you have no idea how utterly wrong that is.

The UK beef industry converted sheep scrapie (known for 200years) into BSE by feeding infected sheeps brains to cattle. Cutting the temperature during rendering probably triggered the outbreak. BSE definitely started in the UK

They and the UK government denied it was a problem for years.

Selwyn Gummer infamously fed his own daughter a beef burger in front of the camera's in a vain attempt to prove that British Beef was safe

newscientist.com/article/dn91-bse-disaster-the-history.html

Eventual British Beef was banned world wide, (it lasted 10 years in the EU), when they could no longer cover it up. UK beef is still banned in many countries such as the USA and Russia..

To this day the UK public has a very low opinion of the safety of UK food, selling horsemeat as UK beef will re-enforce that distrust.

BTW, horsemeat has also been found in Spanish burgers, its probably all over Europe but other countries will not check for it..they arn't stupid.

You are right Peter, he ( Jon 357 lies and he does it for purpose . His main task here is to ridicule Poles , disparage them , humiliate and degrade our nation .

This guy Jon 357 distorts facts and he finds a great peasure in it . His hatred for Poland is the same as that of infamous Harry, at last banned for good . I can`t understand why others are not banned , they put off other people from this forum . Many people don`t post here because of tremendous bad immage they give to this forum for new posters . They should be banned for constant lying and misleading people .I `ve stopped too for half a year because of them .

What does this guy contribute for this forum , nothing just invectives and lies.


You are very wrong hudsonhicks . Sometimes it happens but on the same scale like in UK .

You see no measure can be taken to assess the level of corruption only a proxy , which is nothing but probability . If someone thinks he can bribe a policemen or a doctor in Poland , do it and you will be charged of bribery . Our prosecutors are very serious about it . What was our infamous past no longer exists .

Jeez, this story doesnt wanna go away. Especially since it supposedly is healthier than beef and pork while being cheaper.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horse_meat

Poland didn't put it in the burgers the countries who bought the horses from Poland did.

Look at the bright side the horse meat is healthier for you and you will not get the mad cow disease, I would start worrying if you start finding human meat in your cheese burger.

Check it out. It was nothing new.

And is irrelevant to the Polish contaminated meat scandal.


Cover-up. It was very transparent. And Mr Gummer was quite righ. The meat was safe.


Almost anything is healthier than pork, but if you buy a product on the shelf, you expect it to contain what it says on the label. Not contaminated meat from Eastern Europe.

This the entire basis of proof? I did check it out, I also lived through it in detail, your comments complete and utter garbage.


Really? you said Polish authorities could not be trusted and the British could be trusted. Thats proven beyond doubt to be not true. Nobody can be trusted.


Out right lie in the face of legal, scientific evidence. British beef was banned for a decade, most of the herd was culled and certain types of cattle was banned from the food chain because it was unsafe.

Hundreds of people have died so far from vCJD.


What it said was British or Irish Beef. There is no evidence the meat even came from Poland, except from the word of companies that passed off horse meat to consumers as beef.

Careful what you say Jon, lying and making unprovable claims is libel, no matter where you are.

You might want to see when Kreuzfelt-Jakob disease was identified. By the way, I lived through it too.


This much we know from recent events.


Absolute truth. Your 'argument' proves the effective response to the issue.


Check out the meaning of supply-chain. The products have been identified as being contaminated by Polish horsemeat.


Lying is something we all know you understand, from your past and present habits here, however perhaps you ought to check the definition of libel before mouthing off.

vCJD was discovered in the early 1990's. You might want to explain your lies.


No, they have identified horsemeat in UK, Irish, French and Spanish meat products. They CLAIMED it came from Holland, then Poland. A claim from a fraudulent company selling horse as beef isn't worth jack.

Test's have not backed up that the meat came from Poland.

As I said, unless you have proof of you claims you are being libelous.

I don't have proof do you..

Slabs of Horse have been traded where the contents and origin are not as labelled. These meat traders could have been sourcing horse from anywhere or buying horse legitimately from Poland and relabelling it as cow. The latest news here in Ireland is that the horse meat has been traced to a meat dealer based in Hull England.

The Irish Police are investigating to see where the fraud occurred was it in Ireland, Poland, England or a combination of all three

Latest news on the topic:

Rangeland is saying it "was the victim of fraud"


thejournal.ie/rangeland-food-meat-production-787461-Feb2013/

Given that Dr. Creutzfelt died in 1964 and Dr. Jakob died in 1931, I wonder if you think they discovered it using an ouija board?

Then again, lies are something we've come to expect from you. As I say, check out the concept of Supply Chain within the food industry. And check out the meaning of libel while you're at it.

dont be silly it was around for years before the early 1990s it was knows as scrapie in sheep, for example.


oh fgs can no one have a discussion about anything, talking about what has been discussed in the papers, without some oversensitive flower crying 'lies' libel'!!

Horse meat sold as beef is just the tip of the iceberg, if they can pull this stunt for god knows how long what the hell else have we been eating. The mind boggles.

Lately and before this scandal began ive been thinking about becoming vegetarian, not saying i will but for me to even think like that is quite astonishing. Not from the meet is murder angle but just the what the hell are we eating side.

Where ever there is profit there will be scandal, skull buggery and downright fraud. Contaminating our food supply is scary *****.