Could Poland be self-sustainable in energy?

The last thing I heard was at least a couple of years ago.

I forgot about Father Rydzyk's geothernal proejct... so taking it all together (minus atomic enegry of which I'm no big fan!) -- geothermal energy, windfarms, hydroelectric, bioenergy, coal gasification -- if the maximum coordianted effort and investment were put into these sustainable fields over the next 5 years, what percentgae of Polands energy needs could they cover? I know this can be only a rough guesstimate, but anyway...

I think the biggest problem here in Poland is that there is no concerted effort from the authorities to make people aware of energy-saving. In Belgium you are bombarded with it. Subisidies on local, regional, federal level...

You get penalties for not saving energy...You are literally forced to do it. If only because you feel the effect in your wallet.
Try to build a house in Belgium without an effort to save energy and you you get huge fines (in the form of not being able deduct mortgage costs from your PIT). That is the way to go.

It goes from segregated waste collecting (try in Belgium to put everything in one bag and you are, rightfully, marked as an outcast)
to hefty subsidies for hybrid cars.
Here in Poland the problem is that there is no civic society as such, no public awareness "for the common good".
As for Rydzyk...That is of course a scam. A laugh really that the most fanatical anti-European in Poland wanted to get subsidies for something planned to make him only richer.

Typical lefty nonsense.

isin't the in the best interest of the owner to have an energy efficient house - why haunt people with regulation to do that

I do not agree. It is the only way to do it.Tax them (and hurt them) until it hurts...and then they will do it.

It's one thing to encourage citizens and make them aware of the problem, but going as far as punishing them financially it's taking things way too far.

Financial punishment is already happening has been for a while, petrol/gas prices anyone? household energy bills aren't getting any cheaper either.

Right, it's self correcting. If energy costs are high, I can use better materials/new technologies and save money in the long run.

What would be your substitute for electricity? especially high powered devices.

Adding few facts:

The installed wind power capacity in Poland is ~1181 MW (on 14.01.2011). Wind energy density in Poland is one of the smallest in Europe. Installed capacity per capita is 0,012 kW, whereas per km2 of land area the figure amounts to 1,44 kW.

psew.pl/en/wind_energy.htm

However, a capacity is not the same as an actual power output. I could not find any data on current wind power output in Poland, so I will provide some estimate based on Ontario, Canada. Ontario's wind power capacity is roughly 1240 MW (planned 2600 MW by the end of 2011), quite comparable with that of Poland.

Current Ontario wind power output is 131 MW; that is, about 10% of the current capacity. Data taken at 12pm-1pm, Apr. 18, 2011.

ieso.ca/imoweb/marketdata/windpower.asp

Clickable map of wind farms in Poland:

psew.pl/en/elektrownie_wiatrowe_w_polsce.htm

Map of wind power in Polish voivodships in Poland 2010:

psew.pl/en/map_of_renewable_energy_sources_in_poland.htm

Thanks for the info Boletus.

By the look of those maps, is there so much more wind up the North West of Poland?

Does anyone know about any E.U. or Polish government initiatives about renewable energies subsidies?

Here are fine statistics about wind power in Poland:
ewea.org/fileadmin/ewea_documents/documents/statistics/EWEA_Annual_Statistics_2010.pdf
It says that currently wind power stands for 1,5% of total energy consumption in Poland.
You know the thing is that many areas in Poland are relatively unsuitable for windmills. I guess that with current trends we can get to something between 5 to 10% of total consumption in next ten years and that would be it.

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Poland Renewable Energy

What is Polands take on renewable energy, I know that there is a smog problem in some parts of Poland ie: Warsaw is bad. Does Poland / EU have a plan to limit pollution, are there any rebates or intensives for people going green or buying electric ???

I wonder if a solar / EV company would be sustainable there

My guess only nuclear power would be able to do that on the global scale. Well, I suspect that all hydro power in Poland is already thoroughly exploited.

meh ,no point building nuclear plants in Poland..it would take them 50 years..
Nuclear Fusion is coming in the next 10 -20 years,and everybody will have free unlimited and clean energy from bucked of water.

Doubtful.

theguardian.com/environment/2018/mar/09/nuclear-fusion-on-brink-of-being-realised-say-mit-scientists
unlimited energy from flippin water
just throw more money at it and develop it...forget about wind or solar panels.
"Unlike with fossil fuels, or nuclear fuel like uranium used in fission reactions, there will never be a shortage of hydrogen."

The same type of bright promises about fusion power could be heard for 70 years already. And always the delay is "only 15-20" years ahead. Cannot be trusted before would be demonstrated. And don't expect fusion power would be very cheap and problems-free.

"bob Mumgaard, CEO of the private company Commonwealth Fusion Systems, which has attracted $50 million in support of this effort"
and here is what the problem lie.
50 million?
dumb leftist governments in Europe spend billions on tackling fossil fuels energy...spend fraction on helping developing fussion and it will be developed quickly.
US spent 400 billions on developing f35 fighter..just throw money on something that helps this planet ffs not on bombs and fighters

maybe at beginning..but fusion is the only future for humans in terms of future energy..
not only energy but also shortage of resources..fusing atoms we could make gold out of water or any resource we need

I don't bet about distant future, but in this century, I guess, fusion will not become a mainstream player. Therefore in our century nuclear fission will start to play larger role. Especially, in those countries who lack hydro or geothermal power.

I guess the same; there's a long hard road ahead before it becomes truly viable. Perhaps we'll see a real breakthrough over the next couple of decades; that's still quite a long way before it can be rolled out.

There are claims that a new generation of nuclear reactors may produce quite a little nuclear waste and even burn a lot of waste that already exist. If this is true, why to get crazy about fusion too much in this century?

Of course Poland can. Only if Poland`s politicians sold out Poland, it can`t be. But normally can. Even moron could see that

Why do you think that being self-sustainable in energy would be a sell-out?