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More punch-UPS ON 11th NOV in Poland?


Harry  
22 Oct 2012 /  #31
Its quite funny cause in many cases the pathetic antifa is more aggressive and dangerous than the "evil" far right.

Really? Is that why the only times water cannon and tear gas were used on Nov 11 last year they were used on the neo-nazis?
And do you have photos showing the anti-fascists tearing up paving to get rocks to hurl at the police?
1jola  14 | 1875  
23 Oct 2012 /  #32
No, but Bufetowa allowed the Kolorowa Niepodległa (sic) to set up on Marszałkowska to block the legal Independence march. The travellers were there with their rainbow world peace agenda dancing to the tune of Fvuck the White Eagle. Of course, their parents and grandparents were doing similar things some years earlier. Independent Poland to them is, well, fascist Poland.

As to the photos, Harry Without Borders, I posted a video from the last march where the German Antifa are running through the streets on Nowy Świat. One stops, throws up a Hitler salute, and yells Auschwitz Heil. I suppose he got comfused which demo he got hired for this time. The Germans then ran for safety to Nowy Wspanialy Swiat cafe( the bastion of marxist art and thought) where the police arrested 70 or so of them. They confiscaqted various weapons. The German riff-raff were running because they just had attacked members of a military parade marching down Nowy Swiat, as they do every year, and the police decided that was too much. The Marxists are inviting the German Antifa this year again.

The Left , communists, new-communists, and other useful idiots never cared nor fought for independent Poland, in fact just the opposite, so it is not their holiday and should stay out of it. They have their own celebrations like May 1st and the Gay Parade.
delphiandomine  86 | 17823  
23 Oct 2012 /  #33
The Left , communists, new-communists, and other useful idiots never cared nor fought for independent Poland, in fact just the opposite

Remind us who on this forum fought for an enemy of Poland?

Then again, in your twisted world, everyone that isn't with you is immediately an enemy of Poland. Classic fascist thinking.

Anyway, here's to Warsaw being trashed again by thugs under the guise of "independence".
OP polonius  54 | 420  
23 Oct 2012 /  #34
Rzeczpospolita reports that anrcho-leftist thuggery are already planning to cause trouble by blocking a legal Independence Day March on 11th Nov. this year. They have even set up a special Facebook link appealing to like-minded troublemakers to come and bring alongr friends to break up the Independence March. Anyone know if they again plan to bring in their Red Nazi buddies from west of the border?
sobieski  106 | 2111  
23 Oct 2012 /  #35
As far as I know the official Independence March will be lead by the President of the Polish Republic.
jon357  73 | 23133  
23 Oct 2012 /  #36
Who will lead the rightist hooligans rally, the one round the Dmowski statue, that last year was attended by the cretins who were throwing paving stones and burning TV outside broadcast vans?
sobieski  106 | 2111  
23 Oct 2012 /  #37
It does not take a lot to control this lot. I think Polish police have a poor record in crowd control.
OP polonius  54 | 420  
23 Oct 2012 /  #38
President Komorowski will lead the official state parade, whilst patriotic forces have registered their Independence Day March. Last year the authorities made the mistake of also allowing the anarcho-lefties to march. This year if the reds try to disrupt things, they'll end up behind bars where they belong.
Harry  
23 Oct 2012 /  #39
whilst patriotic forces have registered their Independence Day March.

If they were so patriotic they would respect their head of state and march behind him. In reality they are nothing more than neo-fascist scum in the same model as those traitors who collaborated with the Nazis and the commies when they occupied Poland.

Last year the authorities made the mistake of also allowing the anarcho-lefties to march.

I see that you are giving the question of why the only times water cannon and tear gas were used on Nov 11 last year they were used on the neo-nazis just as much attention as you give to other questions which expose you as somebody who is at best highly economical with the truth: pretend that they haven't been asked.
delphiandomine  86 | 17823  
23 Oct 2012 /  #40
whilst patriotic forces have registered their Independence Day March.

Can you explain why they aren't taking part in the march organised by the head of state if they're so patrotic?

I mean, surely you don't need me to explain that your use of "patriotic" in this sentence is totally wrong - patriots love and support their country. Why would any true patriot refuse to march with the President?

In reality they are nothing more than neo-fascist scum in the same model as those traitors who collaborated with the Nazis and the commies when they occupied Poland.

I do wonder why Polonius supports them so much. Could it be that he's attracted to the shaved heads, muscles and lack of any hair on their bodies?
kondzior  11 | 1026  
24 Oct 2012 /  #41
Who in his right mind would call a Nonentity komorowski a "President" worth of following him? Oh, it was you Delphy.... Please continue.
delphiandomine  86 | 17823  
24 Oct 2012 /  #42
Who in their right mind would post such rubbish about the democratically elected President and Head of State of the Republic of Poland?

Ah, that's right - a traitor. Back to the wall, now.
kondzior  11 | 1026  
24 Oct 2012 /  #43
who would follow a president he did not voted for? how many lefists followed Kaczynski, that was realy elected by the people. As opposed to parachuting into rightfull president's chair, before his corpse was even found?
Harry  
24 Oct 2012 /  #44
who would follow a president he did not voted for?

That would depend on the whether one is following the president as a man or as a figurehead. Some people understand that certain occasions should be above the realm of politics. And other people heckle during ceremonies to lay wreaths at Powazki Military Cemetery to honour those who died during the Warsaw uprising. No need for us to guess which camp you fall into.
kondzior  11 | 1026  
24 Oct 2012 /  #45
so the only defence of this nonentity is by calling him a figurehead? and you still deem him worthy of being followed?
smurf  38 | 1940  
24 Oct 2012 /  #46
if you don't like the democratic system in Poland you are more than free to cross the border in Belarus.
On yer bike, g'wan, away with ya now.
Grzegorz_  51 | 6138  
24 Oct 2012 /  #47
Who in their right mind would post such rubbish about the democratically elected President and Head of State of the Republic of Poland?

You expats are too funny, especially that garbage, who was masturbating so much to Kaczynski's death that he even opened a thread on it here on PF.
delphiandomine  86 | 17823  
24 Oct 2012 /  #48
What's even funnier is watching self-proclaimed patriots completely abuse the meaning of the word :)

Here's a hint : patriotism isn't voting PiS.

As opposed to parachuting into rightfull president's chair, before his corpse was even found?

Yet more rubbish. If you had actually read the constitution (though, like most PiS supporters, you haven't) - you would be aware that it clearly states that in the event of the President being incapacitated, the Marshal of the Sejm automatically becomes Acting President. There's no such thing as 'parachuting into his chair' - it was his legal, constitutional obligation.

and you still deem him worthy of being followed?

He is the rightful and democratically elected head of state. No matter how much emigrants like yourself try and claim otherwise.
landora  - | 194  
24 Oct 2012 /  #49
who would follow a president he did not voted for? how many lefists followed Kaczynski, that was realy elected by the people. As opposed to parachuting into rightfull president's chair, before his corpse was even found?

I voted for Komorowski. The majority voted for him and he was fairly chosen in democratic election. Who are you to tell the people who voted for him that their voice was somehow less valuable then the P'iS supporters?

Komorowski replaced the previous president after his death. What were we supposed to be waiting for, 3 years of mourning without president maybe? That's what a psycho twin would probably have wanted!
jon357  73 | 23133  
24 Oct 2012 /  #50
The majority voted for him and he was fairly chosen in democratic election.

Exactly.

Amazing how a thread about football hooligans smashing up town on the day in which Europe remembers those who have fallen in both world wars can turn into a thread full of pointless comments about a reviled former president and his seedy twin brother.
sobieski  106 | 2111  
24 Oct 2012 /  #51
that was realy elected by the people.

The duck was voted into his chair by mr maybach.
Ironside  50 | 12387  
24 Oct 2012 /  #52
I wonder if this year the government will fail to provide security for peaceful march as they did it last year? German provocateurs should be denied entry or should be detained.

I also wonder whatever policeman undercover who attacked brutally a peaceful demonstrator faced charges or got away Scot free - meaning he only followed orders.

If they were so patriotic they would respect their head of state and march behind him.

in orderly Fascist fashion ? Should they call him fuhrer too? You acolytes of revolution are all the same fascists - Bolsheviks - antifa - or any other fancy name you choose. All fighting for the cause in their comfy armchairs , neither of you lectures on patriotism and democracy found himself on the receiving end of totalitarian regime and you never will, because you will volunteer into the ranks of Political Police to oppress others in the name of democracy and all those lofty slogans.
kondzior  11 | 1026  
26 Oct 2012 /  #53
I voted for Komorowski. The majority voted for him and he was fairly chosen in democratic election. Who are you to tell the people who voted for him that their voice was somehow less valuable then the P'iS supporters? Komorowski replaced the previous president after his death. What were we supposed to be waiting for, 3 years of mourning without president maybe? That's what a psycho twin would probably have wanted!

Most modern politicians, Komorowski being the prime example, are just suckups who made it big in their party, get elected not due to them being good politicians but because their party is elected (and Komorowski siting on the chair already, and people still in the state of shock), and then spend their time sitting in parliament and sleeping or reading the newspaper while getting paid for it. OH BOY WHAT TALENT AND HARD WORK THAT WAS TO REACH THIS POSITION NOW I'M JUST GOING TO SIT HERE NOT EVEN PROPERLY LISTENING TO WHAT THE OTHERS SAY BECAUSE MY PRESENCE IS ENOUGH TO GET ME PAID.

You know what? Kaczynski, while I may disagre with him in many points, was in the whole thing because he wanted to do politics, not just get paid for doing nothing.
jon357  73 | 23133  
27 Oct 2012 /  #54
I suspect that power had its advantages then too.
delphiandomine  86 | 17823  
27 Oct 2012 /  #55
Most modern politicians, Komorowski being the prime example, are just suckups who made it big in their party

How many times have you been imprisoned for your political beliefs? Komorowski was. And you?

and Komorowski siting on the chair already, and people still in the state of shock

People were not in a state of shock by the time the election came around.

OH BOY WHAT TALENT AND HARD WORK THAT WAS TO REACH THIS POSITION NOW I'M JUST GOING TO SIT HERE NOT EVEN PROPERLY LISTENING TO WHAT THE OTHERS SAY BECAUSE MY PRESENCE IS ENOUGH TO GET ME PAID.

Given that Komorowski has been very proactive in proposing (and rejecting) legislation, your ALL CAPS point is moot. Incidentally, there's not much he can do as a ceremonial head of state. Read the constitutional recently, have we?

You know what? Kaczynski, while I may disagre with him in many points, was in the whole thing because he wanted to do politics, not just get paid for doing nothing.

Kaczynski was in it because his brother told him to.
kondzior  11 | 1026  
27 Oct 2012 /  #56
Komorowski has been very proactive in proposing (and rejecting) legislation

you are kidding right? or just being a delphy?

Incidentally, there's not much he can do as a ceremonial head of state. Read the constitutional recently, have we?

Walensa, Kwasniewski, Kaczynski, all of them, to various degree, behaved like real President should. Komorowski is just a disgrace. "Ceremonial" disgrace.

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