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Poland Parliamentary elections 2015


Polonius3  980 | 12275  
16 Oct 2015 /  #601
PiS

PiS leader Kaczyński speaking in Biała Podlaska said, according to Rzepa, that a significant victory for PiS would enable a one-party government to peacefully change Poland for the better in cooperation with the president and opposition if it agrees to cooperate. A multi-party Sejm will lead to constant fighting, name-calling and backbiting. The moral of the story: everybody vote for PiS!

www4.rp.pl/Wybory-parlamentarne-2015/151019515-Kaczynski-ostrzega-przed-wojna-w-kraju.html
mafketis  38 | 10956  
16 Oct 2015 /  #602
everybody vote for PiS!

Especially jerkwads who've never lived and never will live in a country with a PiS government! (and who are strangely proud of that fact)
delphiandomine  86 | 17823  
16 Oct 2015 /  #603
PiS leader Kaczyński speaking in Biała Podlaska said, according to Rzepa, that a significant victory for PiS would enable a one-party government

So he's already dreaming about holding absolute power in his hands.

to peacefully change Poland for the better in cooperation with the president and opposition if it agrees to cooperate.

Kaczyńśki, cooperate? He's refused to cooperate with anyone for the best part of 20 years - why would he change now?

A multi-party Sejm will lead to constant fighting, name-calling and backbiting.

In other words, he wants absolute power for himself, and he realises that having to form a 4 party coalition with Ziobro, Kukiz and Gowin is a recipe for total disaster.

The moral of the story: everybody vote for PiS!

And vote for the type of people that get involved in the kind of things that we've seen today.

Anything connected with professional PiS-basher Toamsz Lis cannot be regarded as a reliable source.

So in other words, he should be silenced by PiS.

See Polonius, every day, you prove that PiS are more interested in state-sponsored censorship and approved versions of events than they are about actually governing.
Polonius3  980 | 12275  
16 Oct 2015 /  #604
he should be silenced by PiS.

Your mis- and over-interpretations (note hyphen use!) and tendency to put your own words into other people's mouth are so disgustingly Harryesque"!
Sorry, I know he's your idol and role model!

don't recall any PO supporters

As I have said, PO are clever enough to cover their tracks and (seocndly) their misdeeds are underreproted or passed over in silence by the biased Michnikite and TVN-style leftstream media.

PiS are too sincere, fortright and possibly a tad naive and figure if they're working for the good of Poland everyone should see that. Sadly, they underestimate the long tentacles of the PO's ruthless hate industry.

victory for PiS

LATEST CBOS POLL -- 4 parties in Sejm, luckily only 2 also-rans:

PiS 34, PO 27, Petru 8 and Kukiz 7.

wiadomosci.gazeta.pl/wiadomosci/1,147565,19036769,sondaz-cbos-po-traci-60-proc-badanych-uwaza-ze-po-wyborach.html#Czolka3Img
mafketis  38 | 10956  
17 Oct 2015 /  #605
PiS are too sincere, fortright and possibly a tad naive

You do realize that your'e saying, in effect, that they are unqualified to govern. But, hey, you don't have a dog in this fight since you'll never live in Poland so fantasize away.
Roger5  1 | 1432  
17 Oct 2015 /  #606
PiS councilor, Janusz Kapuściński...proposed that the street leading to a waste incineration plant should be called "Oświęcimska".

Only in Poland could someone say this and not have their political career instantly ended. Shame on him. No doubt he will be blaming people for lacking a sense of humour.
gumishu  15 | 6175  
17 Oct 2015 /  #607
In other words, PiS intend to use TVP as their personal mouthpiece if they win power. It's exactly what happened between 2005-2007, and we can expect TVP to resemble something that Putin would be proud of.

none of what you say happened between 2005-2007 - Kaczyński complained that public TV does not support PiS even though he appointed Urbański as the head of said TV he was also not pleased with Wildstein before
delphiandomine  86 | 17823  
17 Oct 2015 /  #608
Only in Poland could someone say this and not have their political career instantly ended. Shame on him. No doubt he will be blaming people for lacking a sense of humour.

Shocking, isn't it?

It just shows PiS for what they truly are - a bunch of boorish, uncultured fools that would be right at home in the Komitet Centralny.
Polonius3  980 | 12275  
17 Oct 2015 /  #609
uncultured fools

POO are not uncultured fools but smooth, glib and slippery bald-faced liars. PM Kopacz recently told an outright lie saying she had entered politics 14 years ago. In reality she made her political début in 1982 during martial law when her application for membership of the communist-satellite party ZSL was backed by Radom PZPR 1st Secretary Bogdan Prus. In the 1990s she belonged to the anticlerical leftist-liberal Freedom Union and (when that thankfully broke up!) to the warm-tap-water POO. Her party-hopping suggests she could be in any grouping that gave her aggressive political streak (an excess of male hormones?) an outlet.

niezalezna.pl/71989-ewa-kopacz-sklamala-w-tvp-przyszlam-do-polityki-14-lat-temu-o-zsl-ani-slowa
Grzegorz_  51 | 6138  
17 Oct 2015 /  #610
PiS is going to win the elections, no matter how loud some strange individuals are barking... Too bad POO is still making the damage, like the recent PKP Energetyka "privatization".
Wulkan  - | 3136  
17 Oct 2015 /  #611
PiS is going to win the elections, no matter how loud some strange individuals are barking...

The funniest thing is that they believe that they are heard, the number of members of this forum who will vote is quite small and those members will not get influenced by clown anyway.
InPolska  9 | 1796  
18 Oct 2015 /  #612
All the Poles I mingle with (most of them supporting PO) are not as excited as you guys are in PF as they know that on 26th their life won't change.

How many people in PF will vote next Sunday?
Roger5  1 | 1432  
18 Oct 2015 /  #613
I'll be voting. Not for PiS. It'll be interesting to see how many of the posters most concerned with the moral policing of Poland will be casting a vote.
InPolska  9 | 1796  
18 Oct 2015 /  #614
I assume that first of all, most people in PF are not even voters in Poland anyway.

I do not vote and whether PO or PiS no difference to my life. What matters is what most POLES want......
johnny reb  47 | 7638  
18 Oct 2015 /  #615
I assume that first of all, most people in PF are not even voters in Poland anyway.

Like you I am not a citizen of Poland either however if I was I would vote for PiS.
InPolska  9 | 1796  
18 Oct 2015 /  #616
If I could vote, I would vote for ZL as I personally know some of them (and also because they'd suit me ;))
Wulkan  - | 3136  
18 Oct 2015 /  #617
All the Poles I mingle with (most of them supporting PO) are not as excited as you guys are in PF as they know that on 26th their life won't change.

My life won't change either as I don't live in Poland but it doesn't mean I can not do something good for my old home land and help removing the worst government Poland has ever had that has been destroying this country for the last 8 years.

How many people in PF will vote next Sunday?

I will vote and my vote goes to Kukiz'15.
InPolska  9 | 1796  
18 Oct 2015 /  #618
@Wulkan: if you don't live in Poland, obviously your life won't change as per Polish election ;). Interesting that you'll vote for Kukiz and thanks for telling us as most people don't want to say it.

Whether PO or PiS my life will NOT change so on October 26, "business as usual" ;)
Roger5  1 | 1432  
18 Oct 2015 /  #619
Wulkan, I don't live in the UK, so I don't, in fact can't, vote in UK elections, which I think is fair. Your vote may affect my life, even though you don't live here. How can that be right?
Wulkan  - | 3136  
18 Oct 2015 /  #620
Interesting that you'll vote for Kukiz and thanks for telling us as most people don't want to say it.

I have nothing to hide, I'm proud of my choice, my whole family will vote for Kukiz'15, only my dad votes for PiS which I am fine with.

Your vote may affect my life, even though you don't live here.

Just because I don't live here doesn't mean I don't know what's good for my old country. If my vote effects your life it will be for good if so. I'm not voting for PO or some smaller clowns am I?
delphiandomine  86 | 17823  
18 Oct 2015 /  #621
My life won't change either as I don't live in Poland but it doesn't mean I can not do something good for my old home land and help removing the worst government Poland has ever had that has been destroying this country for the last 8 years.

So in other words, you're voting based on nothing but things that you've read on the internet.

Anyway, do vote for Kukiz. The dream scenario right now is for PiS to need Kukiz's votes - which will almost guarantee screw-up after screw-up in the Sejm. Meanwhile, PO will sit back and win early elections comfortably.
Wulkan  - | 3136  
18 Oct 2015 /  #622
So in other words, you're voting based on nothing but things that you've read on the internet.

No, I come to Poland on a regular bases and also have close contact with with my family and friends who live in Poland.

Anyway, do vote for Kukiz. The dream scenario right now is for PiS to need Kukiz's votes - which will almost guarantee screw-up after screw-up in the Sejm.

Thank you for demonstrating that you know nothing about the politics.

So, care to tell us what are you going to vote or feeling a bit ashamed voting for Platfusy? :-))
Roger5  1 | 1432  
18 Oct 2015 /  #623
If my vote effects your life it will be for good if so.

Well, that's highly debatable. I remember the PiS coalition with Leper and Giertych. My point was that I believe people should not vote in a country where they don't live. In extreme cases, e.g. the USA, some people can vote in Polish elections. That's undemocratic.
Wulkan  - | 3136  
18 Oct 2015 /  #624
Well, that's highly debatable. I remember the PiS coalition with Leper and Giertych.

Well, you don't have to reach far into your memory to remember PO government do you?

My point was that I believe people should not vote in a country where they don't live. In extreme cases, e.g. the USA, some people can vote in Polish elections.

And who are you to tell where people should vote and where shouldn't? Maybe it should be like in North Korea where People can't vote at all lol
Roger5  1 | 1432  
18 Oct 2015 /  #625
OK, if you're happy for Americans who have never lived in Poland and contribute nothing to Poland to vote in Polish elections, fine. I'm not, so we'll have to agree to differ.
johnny reb  47 | 7638  
18 Oct 2015 /  #626
My point was that I believe people should not vote in a country where they don't live.

I agree or pay taxes to the that country..
I have always said, to be able to cast a vote you must present either your property tax receipt or proof of income tax.
Those are the people PAYING for what and who you vote for.
To have welfare recipients who vote for a living instead of work for a living that pay nothing into the public trough to pay for

what is being voted on should not be allowed to vote either.
Polonius3  980 | 12275  
18 Oct 2015 /  #627
based on nothing

People all over vote for a candidate for different reasons. It'd be great if everyone based their vote on profound intellectual analysis, but to expect that is a pipedream.

Many females vote on the basis of looks ... a handsome, smartly dressed and well-groomed candidate cuts more ice than an unkempt and scraggly looking one. Others are influecned by his/her family status. A mutliple divorcee may come across as unstable. Still others judge a candidate by where he is from (local patriotism), his occupation, religion hobbies and interests. The Internet? many people in a given country do not attend political rallies and also have to rely on the media and web to learn about candidates.
InPolska  9 | 1796  
18 Oct 2015 /  #628
True, Pol, but don't focus on women's vote. Men are not that more rational either. Some 90% of voters for M. Ogórek were men and for instance, in Italy, when they had Cicciolina, most of her voters were men.... Nowadays, politics is no more than marketing. A candidate is sold just the way some detergent is sold and as a result candidates need to look nice, to smile a lot, with white teeth, with a nice family, with a dog..... and who cares about their lack of program. Poland is no different.
Wulkan  - | 3136  
18 Oct 2015 /  #629
Your vote may affect my life

You're right, tell me which party I should vote so it will effect your life in Poland most positively so I can reconsider my decision, if not Kukiz'15 then who?
Roger5  1 | 1432  
18 Oct 2015 /  #630
I'm not trying to tell you which party to vote for (I'm not a fan of any of them, and haven't voted for a party in 30 years, just against others). My point was simply that I believe that if a person has chosen to make another country their home, as we have, they should consider their right to vote in the old country's elections, whether that right exists in law or not.

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