Poland Parliament elections in October 2011

what I would love to see is Palikot in the government - I mean that PO+PSL don't have enough votes to have a government but we'll see

Distribution of votes, part 2.

Urban voters have chosen PO.
Country voters -PiS.

In biggest cities the ratio was 2:1.

Old ladies in Poland


Exit polls suggest they do.

It is in a way. I believe that PIS is the modern incarnation of Targowica- albeit an unsuccessful one(:

Look at the parallels a new modern Polish sate pursuing a reformist agenda and making headway, which is in some cases ahead of its European counterparts, and there is the other party sowing discontent, and questioning the legitimacy of the government.

Begging in foreign countries for support ?ups ...thats PO!

Do you know how much monies has been wasted by PO? Do you know how much monies POland borrowed ? Are you going to pay it off?

I'm not PiS supporter but you are definitely PO supporter and it you who should explain yourself not I!

hahha - wow - it's saying that Polish diplomatic corps is voting for the hands that feeds them - yeah, you should really be enthusiastic about this - I'll tell you something pawian - consider sometimes what poeple are those people who are eligible for vote in America - these are the people that this country Poland has actually spat out - they have enough energy and intellect to make a living and probably run a business in America - they most probably couldn't find ways to use that energy in Poland - think about it

Hahahahahahaha. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

Jump rat, jump! The ship is about to sink by tomorrow morning, rat!

Please, stop that.


Did I? :/ I haven't looked.

there are exit polls and there are exit polls :

wpolityce.pl/wydarzenia/16096-sondaz-homo-homini-po-373-pis-291-roznica-w-tym-badaniu-rosnie-w-porownaniu-do-wynikow-z-godz-2100

Why? They would be doing *exactly* the same to us if PiS won.

(how about - instead of referring to individual members as rats, I just refer to all PiS voters as rats instead? We can observe how rats can swim and board different ships easily ;))

Nope, quite the opposite. They are the people who chose the easier way. :):):):):) Instead of developing and working for their own country, they decided to pursue their careers abroad. :(:(:(:(:(:(

That is my subjective opinion.


Guys, come on. Why do you prefer seeing disagreement while we should look for agreement?

We all care for Poland, that is what unites us. Stop bickering. :):):):):)

Please Ironside, from an intelligent person like you I would expect a bit of intellectual consistency, do you know what total did the PIS pre election promises add up to?

Answer: WAY MORE THAN PO

To take your reasoning to its logical conclusion, I take it you would vote for Ruch Palikota-because they are the most keen on cutting the budget to size?

Exit poles say that palikot party got 10% ! This is amazing.. Good stuff. !

yes, you definitely should explain yourself...
Reformist - you mean selling everything that is there for sale, rip taxpayers off , and then in-dept the country,making Poles serfs in their own country?

Either you are PO's sell-sword or a miserable idiot.(that is not insult )

actually all the rats that were prone to leaving the ship of PiS have already done so before - but they have mostly made a grave mistake in fighting with PiS and personally Kaczyński and unless they ended up in PO they are rather without hope for survival in the politics

One of the most accurate comments I have read online:

Poles chose boring stability over fascinating unpredictability.

Ironside, for an intelligent person, you you come across as a economic illiterate. The taxpayers don't get ripped off when state assets are sold, quite the opposite, the burden on the budget becomes lesser.

And I repeat if fiscal rectitude is such a concern of yours, then i take you support Ruch Palikota-because they are the most keen on cutting the budget to size?

Not true, there are still European countries which have both higher taxes and higher debts than Poland. But as PO pursues its reformist agenda for a couple more years - I'm sure we will get there!

Rightly so. They supported Kaczyński and lied to Poles about him for a long time.

this stability is a very illusionary and actually delusional - this is a 'stability' with a price tag that is full of zeroes before the point. we will all see this in the coming 2-3 years - we will see how is actually Germany friendly to Poland and how it really cares for Polish interests in Europe - if someone can't see that we're on the collision course with German policies for the coming time he will be enlighted with the events to unfold (if he/she can't be enlighted by the development so far)

Stop you dishonest game, the election is over. I already pointed out to you that PIS was and is in favor of far bigger spending than PO.

What point are you trying to get across?

If you think that PiS would be a better partner to difuse future tensions with Germany, you are hopelessly wrong. :):):)

Newest exit poll:
Percent of support and parliament seats:

it's not about difusing tensions - if one side is bent to have it their way there's not much room for compromise - then it is about fighting for your interests - if you rely on patting by your 'European partners' in your politics how are you going to win anything from them (appart for some symbolic gestures)

about promises.. in 2008, Kaczynski "promised" to leave the scene if his party doesn't win the 2011 elections...

it's the same one you have already posted

Parliament parties` logos before I go to sleep: :):):):)

PO

PiS



SLD

PSL

Palikot

Where ?in theory ?the burden on the budged become lesser for a short while, and then it double ......


Programs ? I know those people Palikot and promises? ha!

Unfortunately for you, nope. Look again and tell us the 10 differences between the two pictures. :):):):):):):):):):):)

Gudnite.

[quote=pgtx]about promises.. in 2008, Kaczynski "promised" to leave the scene if his party doesn't win the 2011 elections...

Who cares what he does, and people can change there mind, the sad fact remains that only a very small percentage of the population voted....I don't think the election result reflect a accurate picture..

It seems that Poles are finally sick to death of fighting others, fighting each other and finally decided to go with some stability.


80 billion symbolic gestures goes a hell of a long way.

Bear in mind that Germany, since 1990, has done a hell of a lot for Poland. We saw how Germany fought for visa-free access for Poles into Schengen, we saw how Germany helped Poland gain access to the EU (indeed - it might not have been publicised much in Poland, but Germany made it very clear that the 2004 accession had to include Poland), how Germany helped Poland get into Schengen, etc etc.

And don't forget the vast amount of ignoring of Customs regulations by the Germans helped Poles in the early 1990's ;)

in 2008 there were many personalities in PiS - Grażyna Gęsicka, Mrs Natali-Świat, Zbigniew Wasserman, Janusz Wojciechowski, Zbigniew Wasserman, Paweł Kowal, Paweł Poncyliusz, Michał Kamiński - now these people are gone -

if you say promise your mom pgtx that you fetch her and you go to the mountains for a week and then your car gets stolen and what you got is only a company vehicle that you should not use for your private things that much are you still bound by the promise

Small percentage?

Nearly 50% of the electorate voted, or around 15 million from 30 million. Not a small percentage at all.