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Palikot - too liberal/modern for Poland?


Ironside  50 | 12375  
9 Jun 2013 /  #61
Those all sound reasonable. What exactly is "declarations instead of certifications"?

When he was in PO Palikot presided PO Parliamentary group dedicated to this task. At least he claimed that. After eights month of its "work" the only visible result of his labors he produced a artificial pennis. Probably the one he had been sticking up his own ass.

Palikot supporters tend to be young, educated and

criminal records.

For people like him anything that's modern, freedom based

Told you already that you don't know what you are talking about. You mistake anarchy with freedom and stupidity with modernity.
delphiandomine  86 | 17823  
9 Jun 2013 /  #62
For people like him anything that's modern, freedom based or basically different from his own narrow view set, is considered mental illness. Weird thing they also tend to consider Macierewicz a sane person. Go figure.

What makes it really amusing is that 'legend' has been offered the opportunity several times to come and "save Poland" or whatever it is he thinks should be done. He keeps refusing. Dunno why.

criminal records.

And this "Ruch Narodowy" are law abiding citizens?
jkb  - | 197  
9 Jun 2013 /  #63
Probably the one he had been sticking up his own ass.

you sound jealous

delphiandomine: Palikot supporters tend to be young, educated and
criminal records.

Yes, Palikot supporters tend to be criminal records indeed.

Told you already that you don't know what you are talking about. You mistake anarchy with freedom and stupidity with modernity.

You mistake this forum with your own personal filth-filled gutter.
Ironside  50 | 12375  
9 Jun 2013 /  #64
you sound jealous

and you seems to be new here

You mistake this forum with your own personal filth-filled gutter.

Ask old members if it worthwhile to pick on me?
By the way is that your famous argument? weak like your intellect.

And this "Ruch Narodowy" are law abiding citizens?

I don't know but I know that many MP in Palikot group are indeed holders of criminal records. It stands to reason that his supporters are not angels either. He promised them free weed after all.
delphiandomine  86 | 17823  
9 Jun 2013 /  #65
I don't know but I know that many MP in Palikot group are indeed holders of criminal records. It stands to reason that his supporters are not angels either. He promised them free weed after all.

Who in Ruch Palikota has a criminal record?
Harry  
9 Jun 2013 /  #66
I know that many MP in Palikot group are indeed holders of criminal records.

Really? Can you name three of them? And can you tell us how the percentage of Palikot MPs with criminal records compares to the percentages of other parties?

It stands to reason that his supporters are not angels either.

Many Catholic priests have been convicted of raping children, does it therefore stand to reason that Catholics in general are foul perverts.

You mistake this forum with your own personal filth-filled gutter.

More filled with hate, bitterness and envy than filth really.
Ironside  50 | 12375  
9 Jun 2013 /  #67
Really? Can you name three of them?

Ah so you know about at least two.:)

Many Catholic priests have been convicted of raping children, does it therefore stand to reason that Catholics in general are foul perverts.

Research proves that from 1000 pedophiles about 400 are homosexuals and only one is a priest. Your many is as good as mine.
delphiandomine  86 | 17823  
9 Jun 2013 /  #68
Research proves that from 1000 pedophiles about 400 are homosexuals and only one is a priest. Your many is as good as mine.

Where did you read such research, and in which countries was it carried out?
Harry  
9 Jun 2013 /  #69
Ah so you know about at least two.:)

No, I don't know of any. I note from your failure to provide any names that you know the same number.

Research proves that from 1000 pedophiles about 400 are homosexuals and only one is a priest. Your many is as good as mine.

So you say that research proves that one in a thousand paedophiles are priests. There are 409,166 priests in the world and the total population of the world is 6,974,000,000, which means that one in every seventeen thousand people is a priest. Why is it that priests are seventeen times more likely to be be paedophiles than the average person?
Ironside  50 | 12375  
9 Jun 2013 /  #70
No, I don't know of any. I note from your failure to provide any names that you know the same number.

Wojciech Penkalski;Jan Cedzyńsk to doom - your turn to apologize.

So you say that research proves that one in a thousand paedophiles are priests. There are 409,166 priests in the world and the total population of the world is 6,974,000,000, which means that one in every seventeen thousand people is a priest. Why is it that priests are seventeen times more likely to be be paedophiles than the average person?

Gee you sucks at maths and logic,Am I surprised?Not really.
Harry  
9 Jun 2013 /  #71
Wojciech Penkalski;Jan Cedzyńsk to doom - your turn to apologize.

Three I said, not two.

Gee you sucks at maths

This from a man who can't count to three.

I take it from the fact that you make no attempt at all to tell us how the percentage of Palikot MPs with criminal records compares to the percentages of other parties or to address why your own study proves that priests are seventeen times more likely to be be paedophiles than the average person and instead you focus your post on attempting to insult me that you do not wish to discuss any of the facts related to this matter.
Ironside  50 | 12375  
9 Jun 2013 /  #72
s why your own study proves that priests are seventeen times more likely to be be paedophiles

It doesn't, its about pedophiles not general population. In the USA one priest on 3000 sexual crimes against children that is about 0,034 %.
[quote=Harry]This from a man who can't count to three.
You said that I cannot give even a one name and i gave you two - apologize!
Polonius3  980 | 12275  
9 Jun 2013 /  #73
Why is it that priests are seventeen times more likely to be be paedophiles than the average person?

Since you're so good at maths then why not tell tell us how many times more likely is a homosexual likely to become a paedophile than the avergae person?
Harry  
9 Jun 2013 /  #74
You said that I cannot give even a one name and i gave you two - apologize!

Two is not many. You claimed that many Palikot MPs have criminal record: you have at best mis-led the forum, you need to apologise, not me.

It doesn't, its about pedophiles not general population.

One in a thousand paedophiles is a priest but only one in seventeen thousand people is a priest. If priests were average, only one in seventeen thousand paedophiles would be a priest.
Ironside  50 | 12375  
9 Jun 2013 /  #75
One in a thousand paedophiles is a priest but only one in seventeen thousand people is a priest. If priests were average, only one in seventeen thousand paedophiles would be a priest.

So how many thousand pedophiles is in gay population which is not that great either. Every seventh? less?, you are so math oriented you tell me.
Polson  5 | 1767  
9 Jun 2013 /  #76
why not tell tell us how many times more likely is a homosexual likely to become a paedophile than the avergae person?

That's an interesting info you have, Polo. Anything to back it up? Otherwise it's just useless.
Polonius3  980 | 12275  
9 Jun 2013 /  #77
"The rate of homosexual versus heterosexual child sexual abuse is staggering," said Reisman, who was the principal investigator for an $800,000 Justice Department grant studying child púrnography and violence. "Abel,s data of 150.2 boys abused per male homosexual offender finds no equal (yet) in heterosexual violations of 19.8 girls."

In terms of numbers of children abused per offender, homosexuals abuse with far greater frequency; and boys, research shows, are the much-preferred target.

Baldwin says evidence he examined disproves the assertion that child molestation is more prevalent among heterosexuals. Both he and Reisman found that media coverage of adult homosexual abuse of minors is also slanted.

"The National Lesbian and Gay Journalists Association (NLGJA) recently boasted that although homosexuals are less than two percent of the population, three-fourths of the people who decide the content of the front page of the New York Times are homosexual," Reisman wrote.

That one fact is especially noteworthy, experts point out, given the recent child sex scandals taking place within the American Catholic church.

Gay press promotes sex with children

Baldwin says his research not only "confirms that homosexuals molest children at a rate vastly higher than heterosexuals," but it found that "the mainstream homosexual culture" even "commonly promotes sex with children."

"The editorial board of the leading peodophile academic journal, Paidika, is dominated by prominent homosexual scholars such as San Francisco State University professor John DeCecco, who happens to edit the Journal of Homosexuality," Baldwin wrote.

rense.com/general24/reportpedophilia.htm
delphiandomine  86 | 17823  
9 Jun 2013 /  #78
I've seen many crap sources in my time, but...has anyone actually looked at this website? :D

rense.com

And what a surprise - Polonius quotes from a typical loony "We see Zionists everywhere" website.
Polonius3  980 | 12275  
9 Jun 2013 /  #79
Typical modus operandi: Evidence! Sources! Links! Proof!
When links are provided that do not conform to some people's biases and prejudices, they dismiss them as unreliable.
It is a generlaly known fact that information showing the negative sides of certian small but influential minorites catered to by the PC establishment is simply suppressed.
jkb  - | 197  
9 Jun 2013 /  #80
jkb: you sound jealous

and you seems to be new here

I am pretty new here, yes.

jkb: You mistake this forum with your own personal filth-filled gutter.
Ask old members if it worthwhile to pick on me?
By the way is that your famous argument? weak like your intellect.

Well, I don't need to ask anyone. You have already proven you lack skills to formulate reasonable arguments, and whatever you say is either funny or pathetic, rather than logical. Spiteful in most cases. A funny little man.
Zibi  - | 335  
9 Jun 2013 /  #81
and whatever you say is either funny or pathetic, rather than logical. Spiteful in most cases.

Yep, that's my observation as well.
delphiandomine  86 | 17823  
9 Jun 2013 /  #82
Typical modus operandi: Evidence! Sources! Links! Proof!

No, Polonius. We simply don't take websites seriously that rant about Zionists.

When links are provided that do not conform to some people's biases and prejudices, they dismiss them as unreliable.

I'd love to see you attempt to reference that website in any serious discussion.

It is a generlaly known fact that information showing the negative sides of certian small but influential minorites catered to by the PC establishment is simply suppressed.

It is a known fact? Could you perhaps tell us who knows such facts?
Polonius3  980 | 12275  
10 Jun 2013 /  #83
Everybody who is interested in finding out and learning soemthing. I surely dont' have to teach you how to surf the net. If you're that interested in the topic you will find pletny of evidence. But some people are receptive only to information that reinforces their preconcieved notions. One doesn't learn anything by staying in one's safe and comfy rut. Think, explore, look around for different views that go beyond your own prejudices.

Do you really believe that percentagewise:
-- Heterosexuals are responsible for more domestic violence than you know who?
-- Heterosexuals on averge have a shorter life expectancy than...
-- Heterosexuals are likely to be HIV positive than ....
-- Heterosexuals engage in more substance abuse than...
-- Heterosexuals are more promiscuous (have more partners) than...
-- Heterosexual releationships are less stable and of shorter durations than...

Cyberspace is a big place, so you've got your job cut out for you. And now we are watiing for you provide us with some links to prove the above theses. Good luck!

-- Heterosexuals are more likely to engage in paedophilia than...
delphiandomine  86 | 17823  
10 Jun 2013 /  #84
Polonius, can we safely assume that you have an obsession with homosexuals?
jkb  - | 197  
10 Jun 2013 /  #85
A cryptohomosexual maybe? :)
Barney  17 | 1671  
10 Jun 2013 /  #86
Palikot! someone convince me it's not a vanity project.
Lenka  5 | 3501  
10 Jun 2013 /  #87
"The rate of homosexual versus heterosexual child sexual abuse is staggering," said Reisman, who was the principal investigator for an $800,000 Justice Department grant studying child púrnography and violence. "Abel,s data of 150.2 boys abused per male homosexual offender finds no equal (yet) in heterosexual violations of 19.8 girls."

All the sexual abuse I heard about (6 cases, ppl I know personally) were situations when man abused girl and all included family members. Sad but true.
Polonius3  980 | 12275  
10 Jun 2013 /  #88
Polonius, can we safely assume that you have an obsession with homosexuals?

Can we safely assume that you have an obsession with Catholicism and PiS? You bash them far more often than anybody else refers to homosexuals.

A cryptohomosexual maybe?

Actually D. is a crypto-Catholic and clandestine PiS operative. All the Church- and PiS-bashing is strictly a smoke-screen to confuse the issue.
legend  3 | 658  
10 Jun 2013 /  #89
See legend, Palikot supporters tend to be young, educated and employed. Is that mental illness to you?

Young and inexperienced. They'll grow up one day hopefully.
Polonius3  980 | 12275  
10 Jun 2013 /  #90
It is a vanity project. He is the consummate publicity seeker. He ran a Catholic magazine, made millions on booze, set up the Palikot party which was supposed to be pro-busienss liberal and then said the governmetn should be building factories. He was against ACTA but got booed down by the young people and wants to legalise marijuana. He will do anything and say anything and stage the most outrageous happening just to stay in the limelight.

But he isn't all bad, just like Hitler created the VW. His Palikot group takes some votes away from both SLD and PO, and that is good!

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