Officials in Poland are hailing an upcoming visit by Donald Trump

And then Poland woke up.

For a start, let's look at the countries involved.

Estonia - under Swedish/Finnish influence and has a sizeable Russian minority that votes for the Center Party, which is currently the party of the PM there.

Latvia - also a sizable Russian minority that has a strong influence on domestic politics.
Lithuania - not going to trust Poland in the slightest
Czech Republic - firmly attached to Germany. Didn't bother coming to Warsaw.
Slovakia - playing a game between East and West, not interested in a strong Poland
Hungary - very much in Russia's camp, just signed a new deal for a gas pipeline to connect to Russia
Croatia - very much under the control of Germany
Austria - sits in the middle, no interest in supporting Polish interests over Russia or Germany
Bulgaria - very much in the Russian sphere of influence
Slovenia - not interested in Polish affairs, belongs firmly in Western Europe

That leaves Romania.

I hardly doubt a Polish-Romanian partnership is going to change much. Croatia is very much representing American interests here, which means that Poland as per usual has fallen for the games of one of the Great Powers.

Drop your stupid pretensions of Poland being some sort of power.

Why because of your opinion ?
It is obvious that you hate both Poland and the United States of America.
That is a given.
Now with your pretensions that Russia will have some kind of influence over these countries think again.
And if/when Germany crumbles who do think would be a good choice for them to go with ?
Poland and the U.S.A. or sanctioned Russia ?
Germany and China (Ghost Cities of China.....google that) or Poland and the U.S.A. ?
See how easily you could be totally wrong delph.

Obviously your knowledge of European geopolitics is...lacking.

rt.com/business/395370-hungary-gazprom-turkish-stream/

Hungary just stabbed Poland right in the stomach with this move.

Austria Hungary czechy Slovakia are all taking a very similar approach to migrants as poland. This is seen as defiance to eu and their relocation plan. As far as where a country gets its gas, well Russia is cheapest and oftentimes countries have to look for the lowest dollar deal than pay way more for hopes of more political and military help. That's why poland may start to buy more us gas.

Furthermore of course allies have disagreements. Nonetheless poland remains united with the visegard 4 allies...

The V4 are not particularly united on much, the Czechs and Slovaks already made it clear that they want nothing to do with the Polish-Hungarian plan to pull away from the EU, and the single issue (migrants) isn't enough to push serious long term cooperation.

The Czechs in particular made it very clear that they were not interested in fighting with Germany, while the Slovaks know fine well that their economy depends heavily on German/Austrian investments.


That's the exact issue with Hungary. They've now signed gas and nuclear deals with Russia, meaning that any cooperation with Hungary needs to be viewed in terms of their Russian energy masters. Hungary isn't going to threaten their energy supplies by signing unfavourable-for-Russia deals with Poland.

Thanks for the info delph

No worries. It's actually quite interesting to look at how difficult it is for Poland to put together partnerships in this part of the world.

For instance, look at the road between Poznan-Wrocław-Brno-Bratislava-Budapest. The most direct road is pretty poor, with a lengthy section in Poland and the Czech Republic of dangerous single-lane road. Neither Poland or the Czech Republic has any plan to improve this, so transport connections are going to remain terrible for at least another 15-20 years.

Very true. The reason was to try to drive a wedge between Poland and the rest of the EU. America first - don't you ever forget.

Exactly. The US is getting scared of the Franco-German axis, as they will undoubtedly push towards more and more unity, meaning less of a market for American products and especially American military hardware.

Plan to do what? ROFL.


Hahaha.

The EU is preparing a free trade deal with the Japanese. Let's see how that one will work for Trump. I'm sure his minions will wake up one day and realize that the jobs that could've gone to America are ending up in the European Union, Japan and China. Well, at least they'll have their opiates...

Yes, just as Trump slammed the door shut, the EU is opening the door to replace them.

Exactly.


If wise enough to avoid all traps on the road to stars. And this is serious game.


Very interesting. Just don`t forget that Croatia represent open question. Its not over yet. No matter all EU effort and propaganda, today`s Croatia is Greater Croatia, Nazi society by many signs, that within itself forcible include a lot of ethnic Serbs and significant portion of Serbian ethnic territories. I repeat, its not over yet. Building Poland`s future on it would be mistake. This won`t secure Poland`s access to warm seas but set Poland in trap to become part of German sphere of influence (same as Croatia). No Intermarium from it. Pilsudski din`t talk of it. He spoke of Yugoslavia (ie Serbians) because Pilsudski there followed ideas of Polish prince Adam Czartorisky.

Anyway, to give you picture what official Poland doing. It would be same as if Silesia separate from Poland and then Serbians start to have close ties with Silesia and aggravate ties with Poland. No, that actually isn`t best example because Silesians somewhat differ from Poland, while forcible held in Croatia, Catholic and Orthodox Serbs don`t differ from rest of Serbs. To say, Orthodox and Catholic Serbs are in one and same people as Catholic and Orthodox Poles.

One day (separatist movements already exist), region by region of today`s Greater Croatia would separate and reunite with Serbia. Same is with Montenegro, where official Poland also have ties, ignoring stance of Serbia. Not to mention Poland`s Kosovo recognition, after NATO invasion and separation of Kosovo from Serbia. What I want to tell you, what would official Poland one day when Serbians reunite? Correct its policy? What should Serbians?

Don`t underestimate Serbians. We aren`t written off. We are in crisis but, we would be alright. We shall win.

Agreed.

Croatia is way too much in the German sphere of influence to ever be independent of Germany. You know as well as I know that Germany was playing a very dangerous game in Croatia in 1991, not least by pushing the EEC to recognise Croatian independence while the situation was tense.

balkaninsight.com/en/article/us-condemns-zagreb-neo-nazi-march-for-trump-02-27-2017

This must have been dreadful for ethnic Serbs in Croatia to see.

Why don't you go back where you came from if you hate America so much...........please.
All you do is b!tch like a woman about your host country.


He'll get the trade deficit balanced to make America Great Again.
Watch and see if he doesn't give Japan some nukes to defend themselves and then we'll see who's buddy they are.

Hey are you watching the protesters in Germany at the G-20.
I was shocked.
All White people !
Where is the diversity ? LOL

I doubt it. All he's doing is ensuring that American companies stay at a disadvantage.


Japan wouldn't take them.

No good outcome for Poland from Poland`s treachery of Racowie. Its even abominable to think of it.

If Poland continue to stab Serbians in the back, even Visegrad group would crumble. Mark my words. Non shall take Poland seriously for long period. Sure, false friends would give applause, smiling covertly while looking how Poland making historical strategic, moral and even emotional mistake.


Germany created it. Germany orchestrated genocide on Serbs during WWII. Germany is behind pogrom of more then 300.000 ethnically cleansed Serbs during this last Civil War. Germany was behind recognition of Croatia in borders drawn by communists, cutting political dialogue about peaceful dissolution of Yugoslavia.


Ethnic tensions already erupt among Catholics of today`s Croatia. Catholic Croats pressuring equally Orthodox and Catholic Serbs.

Just google on event in case with recent Istrian separatist movement where Catholics of Istria openly announce that they aren`t Croats.

As I said, one by one regions of today`s Greater Croatia would separate and reunite with Serbia. For those regions, it would automatically mean their exit from German zone of influence and return to Serbdom and Slavdom. Now, those who knows history, knows that Serbian lands were always loyal to Poland, primarily choosing to join in Poland`s zone of influence since demise of our medieval empire. What official Poland doing in last 20 years is shooting at its most loyal strategic partner.

I doubt you will get very much sleep tonight, fuming over Trumps great success today!

And its only going to get better and better!


I love liberals, so hypocritical!

Well thank God that the Crooked Hillary/obama tag team didn't get elected.
Should I remind you that it was obama that took the missal shields away from Poland to defend themselves and now we have President Trump giving them back to Poland to defend themselves.

Is it any wonder that Poland loves Trump.


Yes he did and the Polish people connected with Trump on core Christian values, family first, conservatism, immigration, climate control and so many other things they have in common.

It was a well planned speech that showed much respect for the Polish people.
The speech wasn't written for some jealous Left ex-pat transplants that think they are Polish.

I'm sure I'll sleep fine, given that one speech does not make a President.


Yep. The brutality of the fascist forces in WW2 is unbelievable. What Branko Jungić suffered for refusing to change his religion still haunts me today.

Yeah but it sure greased the wheels with an allie didn't it.

Certainly so, but he's steamrolling over all your liberal agendas. Kicking A$$ and taking names!! LOL


America loves Poland!

Its too bad about these expats that are giving Poland a bad name!

It's just a standard American President abroad speech, nothing more.

"blah blah is our great ally, blah blah free world blah blah brave locals blah blah references to history blah blah commitment to defence blah blah great country blah blah challenge blah blah america will help you blah blah nothing new whatsoever."

edition.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/07/24/obama.words/

Look at Obama's speech in Germany. It's almost identical.

It is fascinating to me how events play nasty game with Poland. For Poland, Trump was good change. But, Poland never gave up from deeds and direction of EU (ie western Europe) led by USA Clinton clan. Poland publicly oppose to EU over migrants and thinks that`s it. That`s all? Man, when broom come to cleanse all what must be cleansed after Clinton`s and Co. fall, Polish ruling establishment would be cleansed, too. How they don`t see that one coming is behind me. Strange.

Angry, aren't you DD?

Nope. Amused that Americans are so retarded that they think that Europeans actually believe a word they say.

I dont believe a word that comes out of your pie hole, thats for sure!

I sure am having fun watching you libturds meltdown on a daily basis:)

Why don't you move back to Scotland since you hate the Polish so much?

Don't worry, we know that you have problems comprehending anything other than what politicians and the media tells you. It's common with people of low intellect to spend their days watching Fox News and the like rather than actually educating themselves.


The funniest thing was watching your kind lose the plot when Macron destroyed Le Pen in the election. With Merkel on her way to winning for a 4th time and the decisive failure of right wing politics in the UK among others, the Trump era is over as quickly as it began.


Why don't you stop posting on here as you hate Europe so much?

You disgust me, you and I both owe our freedom to the US, go pay a visit to the cementary at Omaha beach, on second thoughts dont go you would only polute the place with your slime trail.

We owe them nothing. They've left nothing but misery behind in many countries.