Poland's Nationalists hold congress

LOL! The people who form the government are the ones who won the election Greggy.


It's a certainty that is shared by the majority of Polish people.


This from a man who thinks that getting 30% of the vote and then having nothing to do with the government is the same as winning an election.


Which is why I said that PiS need 45%, not 50%.


And that somebody will not be DuckBoy.

I'd argue that the 45% that you reference would include the votes from the PSL.

PiS are in even more danger than before - if they lose even 3% of the vote to this Ruch Narodowy, then these end up as "wasted" votes and PiS have even more of a struggle.

If the Dear Leader could let his ego drop for a second, he would give way to a younger man without an ego problem.

For what it's worth, my gut feeling is that PiS will work out some arrangement, żeby wilk był syty i owca cała (so both sides are happy). Amid the greatest of tribtues, testimonials and honours Kaczyński will be eased into the post of life-long honorory chairman, whilst a younger chap will become the party's presdient. Whether anyone here likes it or not, the PiS programme minus Kaczyński and Smolensk have a fairly large potential draw amongst those fed up with PO.

It won't work. Any young talent (for example, Ziobro) would know that without Kaczynski being permanently expelled from the party, he would still exert huge influence over the party and thus their policies. Such a position (President for life, how North Korean) would all but guarantee that the party wouldn't be trusted by that cruical centre ground.


I've been saying it for years that without the radical Catholic agenda and Kaczynski, PiS have a decent chance of winning an election. But Kaczynski has to go for real, not like in 2005 when he pretended to step aside.

They lost ~14% since the last elections, the rest is just your wishful thinking.

^ Yes Greg, and PiS have gained 0.1%....

~+7% over the last 6 months, the trend is clear and there are +2 years left, hopefully Tusk will not run away with early elections.

In other words, the statistics clearly show that PiS are headed straight for another defeat.

Shall we predict Greggy's excuses now?

Right :))

A natural born loser :)


Even PiS-PO-PSL-RP-SLD is not impossible.


Even if they win, as in, get the largest piece of cake, good luck forming a government. PiS would be the largest party in Sejm and forming the opposition. What a shame :)


You guys forget about one thing. The fact that a party gets 45% of popular vote doesn't mean they'll get 45% of all seats. The might as well get the required majority. Our current system promotes bigger parties. For instance, in 2011 PO received around 39% of popular vote, yet got 45% of seats. On the other hand, Palikot got slightly over 10% of popular vote, and only 8,7% of seats.


Are you quoting polls? They have been proven to be useless so many times in the past, so quoting them is basically like telling others to come and laugh at you. I still remember 2011 polls giving Palikot 1-2% of popular vote :)



Or maybe in 2 years the situation will change so much that the left will come to power again? Look at SLD with 15%, quoting the polls you guys like so much. Look at Europa+, which has estimates of around 25% of popular vote, yet again, by polls. Polls show that the society is getting sick of the right movements and slowly leaning towards the left again. It's really a bit too early to predict anything, 2 years before the election.

Kwas messed it up, thank God :))

And what do you mean by that? :)

Fat, drunk guy :))

With 25% of the popular vote, as the polls show :)

hahahah, win!

It's Greggy's worst nightmare, he spent so long trying to convince us all that the Dear Leader would win...only to stare yet another loss in the face.

Except it it went down to 4% and after that the crap was pulled off the polls :)))

Last time I cheked PiS was still shown in all polls, so you must be greatly mistaken here.

Still 70 % who not vote for the duck. Maybe they are all misguided?
Anecdote; Yesterday at Metro Młociny, one of of these "neutral" smolenkist referendumallists asked if I wanted to sign the petition against GW. I declined and asked her if she was a pisior. Which she of course was. Her reply? "Musisz być obcem".

I imagine Gazeta Wyborcza are laughing their heads off at such people - such free publicity!

And let's be honest, if those fools hate it, then it must be good.


Usual rhetoric from followers of the Dear Leader - anyone that isn't with them is somehow 'misguided', 'stupid' and so on.

That's golden :D And so expected from pisiors.


They're not saint, but I prefer them so much better than Nasz Dziennik, Rzeczpospolita or other garbage.


Spot on.

Precisely. It's much like the Polish Nationalists: lots of people see the stance of the Neo-Nazis and immediately think 'If those cretins are on that side of the argument, I almost certainly am not on that side'.

that is not thinking that i an emotional reaction promoted in media.

Plus who in their sane, right mind would want to align themselves with these savages?

That's largely why they can't ever scrape the necessary 4% in whatever elections they contest.

I believe it's 5% to get into Sejm and 3% to receive funding.

5% for parties, 3 % for minorities, 7% for coalitions if I remember correctly

What is remotely funny, is that the duck wants to get the upperhand in Silesia...after he practically declared the same Silesians as non-Poles....

Yes I remember. He made a hell of a lot ppl mad.

Which ones ?