Multi-culti (in Poland) -- roadmap to disaster?

Pammy was it buy one get one free in the conspiracy shop?

I don't know about all that but certainly slavery has been overblown and spun.
The black/ Leftie slavery scolds often conveniently neglect to mention that Africans sold their fellow Africans into slavery. Also, free blacks in the US owned their fellow blacks as slaves. Also, many brought here ended up having a much better life than they ever would have in Africa. American blacks to this day benefit from their ancestors having been brought here. Ingrates.

Slavery wasn't nearly so evil and bad as it has been made out to be. Time to let that whine go.

For goodness sake, how hard is it to keep things on topic for some people? There is plenty to this thread. More immigration videos and its impact.

I thought they were caught in the net and taken abroad..

youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=6jdXfiFgxFM

Blacks are generally left alone here but I could well imagine some conservative old hags turning their noses up at them. Thankfully, most are too indifferent to care but they could expect some huffing.

Where is "here"?

Here in Gliwice. It's quite conservative.

Road map to disaster? Why yes, yes it is.
Polish society is just fine being Polish and nothing less.
It's strange in that I have lived in both multicultural and mono-cultural societies and I know which one is VASTLY superior in terms of stability. That being said, the strange part I have to admit to is that there are people who feel the same yet are willing to physically ensure that is the case. Now, I ask myself where is the line between cowardice, standing up for your beliefs and savagery? Are they so easily drawn?

The day that Poles stop immigrating to countries outside of Poland is the day that Poland should stop accepting foreigners. The double standard that exists is beyond disgusting.

It does exist, pip, that's for sure. However, it's often espoused by those nationalist, hard-done-by sorts.

Żadne tam kurwa multi kulti! If someone wants to live in Poland HE/SHE MUST TOLERATE the fact that majority of Polish people do not tolerate walking around dressed like a ******* ninja or with a towel on his head or howling at 5 a.m.If he/she is tolerant enough to accept it,then welcome aboard.If not he/she is encouraged to **** off back where he/she came from.WTF,the immigrants must accept our rules because I find it ridicoulous to bend over and accept theirs.Seems pretty sensible to me that when going to someone's home you accept your hosts rules not make your own.Just because westerners were stupid enough and let immigrants do what they want to doesn't mean that we have to repeat their mistakes.Plain and simple.If I ever meet in Poland any immigrant who will tell me how I am suppose to live in my own country,not to eat pork or put some ninja costume on my women or will try make me beliving in some dumb a$$ Allah I will knock him the **** out.I am very tolerant and they can do whatever they ******* want to in their own countries but this is POLAND and if you want to live here you better accept our rules.

I actually agree with parts of what you are saying, grubas, but I didn't appreciate the lie about westerners somehow giving the green light for mass immigration. Unelected Eurocrats did that so I hope you take stock of that reality. No referendum was ever issued. Yes, this is Poland and people should play by the rules. However, tolerance for others plays its part to a certain extent.

I agree that is a double standard but I am starting to think it isn't as stark as we would like to imagine.
If we are talking about E.U. multiculturalism, whereby all member state nationals are free to exist within the Union then is that different from welcoming in freeloaders from asia and africa? Are they free loaders? Are they a benefit to the economy? Do they bring something to the table that Poles don't in Poland? Or are they what the Poles were/are (less and less I hope) in western Europe, i.e. a group of people who'll work for less?

If we are talking about people who refuse to accept outsiders into Poland but feel the rest of the world is compelled to accept Poles then you have a point. However there are those who have never lived abroad nor do they intend to, are they hypocrites if they value Poland being as pure to Polish as it can be?

Looking at what's been the sentiment in the very multicultural England, I can't help but think it's as Angela Merkel termed it, a failure.

Going back to Scotland, arriving in Edinburgh, I feel that I have arrived into some kind of socio-experimental ground. A kind of human zoo. It really is so different from here and you have to experience it before commenting (not targetted at you btw, For4).

Maybe but you guys bend over to their rules and the more you bend over the more they want.I mean like I said if I want to live in say Iran I have to accept the fact that I can't wear shorts there.Right?Ok,fine with me,your country your rules,I don't like them,I don't go there I think it's very tolerant.But I am not tolerant enough to accept say(just an example) Iranian coming to Poland and telling how I should dress.I just can't and I am not even sorry about it.

I have yet to see any foreigner in Poland try to change any language, cultural or religious part of the country. They come here, they learn the language and they contribute to society.

Vietnamese do it very well.
So- your argument seems to be full of sh*t. Where do you live again? the states?

Poles change the language themselves.--how many English words are now common in Polish.
Poles changes the culture all on their own. Treat or treating is now normal.
Poles change the religion on their own. Radio maryja is a freaking joke, not to mention the new buddhism that is quite popular here with Poles.

and if you think that Arabs or Muslims want to convert Poland- you are stupider than you sound. They just want to live in peace like everyone else.

Which Polish king let muslims into Poland?

do yourself a favour and read this article planetaislam.com/poland/report.html
it tells you everything about muslims in poland- not the fox news propaganda that so many follow like sheep.

But you live in America.

Bend over to their rules? There is some truth in that as some areas have actually been taken over by minority groups. It is a disgrace for people who were raised in a given area to go back there later in their life, only to find that some brudasy (I use this word only because of the hostile reception afforded to those that go back to their own back yards) are ruling the roost and personally barring them. It happens, believe me. I'm not being racist here, it's just the truth in some parts.

Oh, I'd be upset if somebody insisted on me wearing a niqab or turban here. If they poured it on thick, I could end up being livid, yes. No Poles insist on me wearing a kilt though I'd happily oblige. Many Poles respect our cultural attire. We don't thrust it around.

We had multicultural society. It ended with massacres like these in Wołyń. Nobody has right to teach Poland about minorities, maybe except Copts and Amerindians.


Just like Ukrainians.

ok- wait a second, where in the world has any muslim culture decided that their host country should adapt their religion and dress code? Am I missing something?

Bend over to their rules? There is some truth in that as some areas have actually been taken over by minority groups. It is a disgrace for people who were raised in a given area to go back there later in their life, only to find that some brudasy (I use this word only because of the hostile reception afforded to those that go back to their own back yards) are ruling the roost and personally barring them. It happens, believe me. I'm not being racist here, it's just the truth in some parts.

where exactly?
I would be more concerned with groups of blokersi football hooligans than a minority.

We had multicultural society. It ended with massacres like these in Wołyń. Nobody has right to teach Poland about minorities, maybe except Copts and Amerindians

what you are talking about is not current. Polish immigration exists today- people are still immigrating from Poland to other countries. The day this stops is the day Poland has the right to refuse immigrants.

Look,I live in the US and today is a big catholic holiday,day off in Poland,but I would never demand the right to have a day off here because they don't practice it here.

And the god damn Muslims demand from us to accept and acomodate all of their antics.

In parts of Birmingham, pip. I saw it in a documentary and my Brummy friend confirmed it. Also, Choudhury has insisted on Sharia Law being applied though I think he is a govt patsy who was put in place to cause trouble. The British intel services love and need him.

I have to completely disagree with you. If some Poles decide to live in another EU nation, others who stay are not obliged to welcome those outside the E.U.

To you it may be a freaking joke but to many Polish people (I personally don't give a ****) it's very important and if you want to live in Poland you better be tolerant and accept that.

Look,I live in the US and today is a big catholic holiday,day off in Poland,but I would never demand the right to have a day off here because they don't practice it here.

And the god damn Muslims demand from us to accept and acomodate all of their antics.

that is complete and utter bullshit that fox news is telling you.

today is also Dzien wolskij Polskiego and my house has a flag in the front of it- not for religion but for war.

America is not a Catholic country- it is a country full of immigrants all with equal rights- founded by those of different religious backgrounds. It is only modern day that religious freaks beit catholic, muslim or jewish are fighting for equal rights. Don't think for one second that this is just a muslim thing. If you are so anti recognition then take away the recognition of jewish holiday- but we all know that is not possible because the jews run the gov't, big business and hollywood.

Radio maryja is a freaking joke,
To you it may be a freaking joke but to many Polish people (I personally don't give a ****) it's very important and if you want to live in Poland you better be tolerant and accept that.

I am tolerant and accept it, however, many tax paying, society contributing Poles do not. Radio Maryja targets the elderly and the poor and those in small towns and villages. They are smart- but they don't have a lot of weight in Poland.

Just for the record, I have lived in Warsaw for 9 years.

Tolerant?

When they learn to be tolerant towards me, perhaps I can be tolerant back. Until then? I'll continue mocking it for all it's worth - it, after all, is utter garbage.

What do you mean, delph? They are intolerant towards you?

we are not dealing with small numbers here. Poles have immigrated literally everywhere and they still keep ties to the motherland. My inlaws own a house in Canada and a house in Poland. They will never sell either- Poles don't get to double dip and then deny foreigners to their country.

What if the U.K decides they have had enough and want all Poles out- yet British that live in Poland are allowed to stay. If Poles actually stayed in the country that they immigrated to then I would agree with you, however, it seems that all Poles want to come back.

A what???It's every Muslim's duty to try to convert to Islam as many infidels as possible!

They don't have to be tolerant of you Delphi, nor of me or any other foreigner. It's that simple, as guests, we must abide by the society we are in.