Multi-culti (in Poland) -- roadmap to disaster?

So you favour some form of apartheid.

Due to our military might. Not due to its diversity.


Of course. Only folks living here dealing with all this diversity should comment on the reality of it.


Lol. The Liberal mind truly is a childish wasteland.

Because for most of its existence, it had a large predominately Western/American minded core of people within it and immigrants coming into it made efforts to assimilate into this core.

But in case an anti-American like you haven't noticed, America is gradually declining.

Especially with new immigrants coming in that do not want to assimilate and are more loyal to their ethnic background then to America. When America becomes balkanized and large ethnic groups seize American territory for their own ethnic group, like Mexicans seizing the southwest states, America will not be a world power anymore.


Your not too bright are you?

Where do I even begin?

America had the benefit of having two oceans isolating it from terrorist nations like Nazi Germany and Soviet Russia.

Poland also only just recently had the chance to catch its breathe in 1990 from the suffocation of Soviet Russia and the scars of Nazi Germany before that. Poland also by World standards and European standards is not a large nation.

This from you, llama boy. You'll notice that he hasn't commented yet - he doesn't think diversity is a good idea, but hasn't proposed a way forward.

It's actually quite hilarious to read that one of the biggest diasporas in the world is scared of multi-culti. :D

Western minded? I hardly count the influx of Poles from Kresy "Western-minded" - they were poor peasants who were essentially of unclear origin. As for "making efforts" - there hardly was much choice in 1900's America - especially given the racism towards those immigrants.


America isn't declining - that's just the nonsense spouted by sensationalist media networks. It seems surprising that someone such as yourself, who claims to be "MediaWatch" falls for such simplistic propaganda. Sure, the country might be in a bit of debt - but it's nothing that can't be wiped out quickly by the United States.


I wasn't aware that any American territory was 'seized'. More nonsense spouted by dubious media outlets.


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I rest my case.


Not a large nation? It's the 11th largest country in Europe - which includes Russia and Turkey. In the EU, it's the 6th largest country by area and by population.

You really don't seem too clued up when it comes to Poland.

No kidding people coming into the the US weren't as Western minded as original Americans. But as you say, they were forced to assimilate into America (speak its language, know its culture, etc) if they were to survive as Americans and be able to CONTRIBUTE to it. There are proportionally today more immigrants today who don't want to assimilate into America the way earlier immigrants did.


Fixing the debt situation is a very challenging situation especially with our weak economy. But we just don't have debt problems. Our culture is in decline.

I don't agree with Michael Savage on everything, but in general he's right about the Hollywood media sewer polluting America's culture.

The Hollywood media is always cranking out sewage into the minds of America.


Pay attention. I did not say any territory was seized yet. But La Raza Mexican groups in America want to do just that.


Oh come on. As pro-Poland as I am, I can not say Poland is a significant size nation. Its just a medium size European nation and most European nations are small. Germany and Russia would never have been world powers if they had less then 40 million European people.

Does anybody actually advocate multi-culturalism?

Diversity? Who gives a ****? Europe, a tiny corner of the world, has already thought up dozens and dozens of way to divide herself. Nowhere else in the world are there so many small countries, each proudly proclaiming their individuality, when in reality the differences between a German, Pole, and Englishman are really not so significant (language excluded).

Why stir up the pot? Certainly there will be intelligent and hard-working people in every immigrant group - members who will be a great asset for that country. But is that worth the additional divisions the general unrest that it will surely bring?

I say no to multi-culturalism. Immigration can be a really great thing, in small amounts. Hell, look at America - without diversity, America would be dull and exceedingly boring. There is a time to welcome minorities, but there is also a time to restrict them. It's my hope that immigrants to Europe will assimilate and this headache will go away, but if not this will be a problem that plagues the continent for decades.

Well, you all should establish first what are talking about;ethnic and racial diversity or cultural diversity.
If former then I must say it is folly of the worst kind.
If we are talking about ethnic diversity there are pro and cons, but definitely is not something which should be sought after or actively promoted for some murky ends.

JonnyM
I had in mind that there is no an African country where people from Europe are immigrating;whats more white people are being actively eliminating from one African country after another. On the other hand there is plenty of people from Africa immigrating to Europe.

I think that one way street is a very bad arrangement.

yeah, but Poland got refugee African Simon Mol who infected 40 Polish girls with AIDS.

Tylko Polska

Poland for the Polish.

Ethnic, racial and cultural diversity are all good, but only if it's done in small doses. No country should be excpected to commit cultural suicide just to be nice to immigrants. But when it's done carefully, it enriches a country in every way: through cultural cross-pollenization it enriches the music and literature, and a bit of racial diversity can actually improve the gene pool by minimizing the chances for genetic diseases. The fact is that the US is one of the most mixed societies inthe world and look what it achieved. Israel is ,on the one hand, mostly Jewish, but on the other hand we absorb Jews from every part of the world so there's an incredible amount of cultural diversity and cross-fertilization. I think that a lot of what we accomplished in a short time is because of that diversity.

Actually Rome imported German Barbarian immigrants in right before Rome collapsed & those German barbarians sacked Rome.

I would say that much of the reason for the sad state Russia is in is largely from Multiculturalsim.

Jews run the Russian Mafia.

Jews created the Soviet Union.

You have Chechens creating Terrorism in Russia.

You had African students to the Soviet Union likely spread Aids to Russia.

of course the German blooded Tsars of Russia reaped their wealth while living Russians as Peasants in prolonged Feudalism

Multiculturalism could even be the reason Poland fell. It is highly likely that the Poles who sold Poland out in the Partitions of Poland were largely Jews, Germans, Ruthenians & other Non Poles who livedi n the Polish-Lithuanian commonwealth.

Why would you say something like that? Everybody knows that every organisation in the world is Jewish run. Even the Catholic church is Jewish run! By saying that Jews run only the Russian mafia, you clearly wish to distract us from the truth. You have just blown your cover: you are clearly a Jewish agent paid by Mossad to come here and distract us!

Yes, that is why jew Semion Mogilevich is called the Boss of Bosses of the Russian Mafia.

Very well said yehudi :)

MC in Poland? When you give people rights, it can be hard to take them away. Let the wrong people in and you'll spend a fortune getting them out. Poland doesn't want a Chechnya style situation anywhere. Things are fine as they are. Yes, I'm focussing on a potential radical aspect but this is the way to disaster. Generally, a few more foreigners here wouldn't hurt.

I think the key is to have good ambassadors. There are many Scots I know that could easily tarnish the reputation of Scots as being good travellers and minglers. The same goes for Poles who sent many undesirables abroad. Some people here are amongst the best I have met in my life, esp my Polish family, and it is that which is important. With mutual respect, MC is workable but certain groups just don't show that.

Geez, Seanus. We are human beings just like you. We can live with our differences. I'd risk stating we love them. Nothing like bashing them twats from behind the meadow, come Saturday evening.

Hehehe. I had certain types in mind, nott. Poles tend to be quite close for the most part.

Many certain types, you mean? :)

Sounded like we should close the borders until we sort our mad vendettas first.

Nah, I wasn't advocating that ;) Poland should not be dragged off down a bad path and overstretch itself.

This statement seems quite easy to accept...

:)

It'd be nice to see more Slavic folk around. Ukrainians, Belarussians, Balkans folk etc etc.

Ukrainians can't come any more. Others don't actually seem to storm the borders...

Would be nice to see some colour here and there as well. With reservations, as above.

I mean, assimilation doesn't mean to me that they should get baptised in the Holy Catholic Faith and drink themselves stupid after Poland wins a friendly with Cameroon, but, you know, behave yourself. Affiliate. If this is the word. You're a guest so know your place, until you are at home, but this means something.

Can't come any more??

There are some Asians here. It'd be good to have more in class.

How can I know? Maybe a couple more. It's not about numbers only, nobody knows them.

So the solution would be to create some filter anyway. And capping just in case.


Erm, you suggesting they would raise the level? Nasty one..

Nott, it's just nice to have a bit of variety. It's all about balance.

And now you're saying Poles are not balanced enough...

Nope, a road to survival. As Polesses don`t want to breed, we need immigrants to sustain the nation`s being.

You can have MC in countries like Canada, Austrailia and America. In most other places MC is a euphemism for failed integration.

You know, I think I need to pen a post regarding the fact that slavery actually never existed in the United States. Did you all know that African-Americans descend from African immigrants who arrived in North America during the 16th century after a famine in Africa forced them to find more fertile lands? It's true. Apparently, this nonsense about slavery and the so-called "Civil Rights" movement of the 1960s was a complete sham, orchestrated by a small minority of extremist Afro-Americans bent on world domination.

I'm telling you - I've met with a couple of African Americans who told me all about this. And what they told me just flew in the face of everything I've ever read in history books, etc. Really incredible that there actually never was a single slave in either North or South America.