Military power (Poland #21 in the world)

No secret missions, just a training contract.


No big secrets - but when I sign a non-disclosure agreement, I honour my promise.


Indeedy doody.

Have you given your share of the EU subsidies back yet, as you said you would, Ziobro fan boy?

What a delusionary comment , who is going to believe in such lies? You wouldn`t be able to read their ranks by looking at their uniforms , dude .

People do tend to introduce themselves - even as soon as you meet them - and in Poland there is the ubiquitous exchange of business cards. That and the lapel flashes which exist to indicate rank. Oh, and the nameplates on their office doors! And of course the list of course participants plus the assessments that trainers have to write.


A weird thing to say. Par for the course, Moania.

No ,sh*t , Sherlock ?

You don`t even understand my allusion .

No,but we all understand your delusion,not to mention your badly disguised motivation behind your spikey little tet a tets with jonny.............move to strike all evidence presented by the biased witness m'lud.


Isnt that what rank badges are for????? Stars and Bars are not exactly an impenetrable code for most people ........especially those used to decifering pips,crowns,swords,scrambled egg and wavy lines............................I dont think *you* will understand my alusion,ergo you must be a thicko......

Who is we , wee , wee. dwarfie

Question: how much do the new professional Wojsko Polskie offer it's recruits, depending on rank?

Privates receive 2500 PLN plus various premiums, all in all between 2500 and 2800 PLN.

If you're out of an officer school as a Junior Lieutanant you're receive 3400 PLN, generals receive around 15.000 PLN.

That's really not bad at all - I'm glad to see that they're paying well to attract decent candidates.

You're joking right? Ever tried to raise a family for 1800PLN? Because the 2500 is nominal pay before you deduct taxes, with 1800 you still have to deduct living expenses and you're left with nothing.

Uh, what expenses will a 18-19 year old private have, apart from rent?

I'm also wondering how many 18-19 year old privates will actually have families to raise.

Unless of course, you're suggesting that Poland is somehow unique and entering the army at the lowest level is common for people in their mid 20's.

Family? Girlfriends? Also professionals with 10 years of service dont get much more so your question is fairly useless.


Most.


20-25 years.

Girlfriends and families should be working for themselves, rather than pushing an 18 year old into the army just so they can stay at home and drink.

Professionals? If they were professionals, they'd be rising through the ranks. And as the above link shows - the money they can earn does rapidly rise with experience. And this is just basic pay - not counting allowances and suchlike.

insomnia.pl/ZAROBKI_W_WOJSKU_POLSKIM__AKTUALNE-t637144.html


Most? Where? Certainly not in Poland, what with the demographic problem. I mean, it would be good if 18 year olds were starting families - but - they aren't.

you have to consider geography and proximity to powers that be

im reading gods playground and norman davies suggests polands vulnerable do to no distinct bounderies and that russia is similar in this respect on a grander scale.

he says large tracts of the ukraine went unfarmed do to fear from invasion.

feeding an army; some of these powers you can simply cut them off of trade.

also along the reason we have iran surrounded.

@JonnyM
This thread is one more proof that you are a pathetic clown. You clearly have no clue about military issues and nevertheless you spread the usual "I know better" bullshits. "And now you've spread his name and job further" and why the hell shouldn't he ?? Koont, you can read up basically all (except special forces and secret services and even that only partially) the information about army officers (name, rank, position etc.) on the internet, It's not any secret. The most you could have ever done is giving a few English lessons at one of many military institutions in Warsaw (looks like you don't even realize which one was that) and that's all. It's like a guy delivering potatoes to a restaurant in the Sejm was claiming to be an insider in Polish politics. Pathetic, especially in case of an old prick.

In this case, yes.


However when one signs something to say one won't talk about it (normal for any military contract), one should keep that promise.


Training people is what I do, and it was for a military contract that I came to PL in the first place. I made no other claims in this thread. With me, what you see is what you get - the plain truth. Just not all of it.

BTW, It wasn't a 'military institution', I know exactly which part of the army it was, and I wasn't only in Warsaw.


Really?


Paid your share of the EU subsidies back, as you said you would?

Childish nonsense again.


Really.

So you'd sign an agreement saying you won't disclose details - not unusual in my work, I've done it a dozen times - then break that? Very honourable of you.


So in fact you don't kniow and are just trolling.

Paid your share of the EU subsidies back, as you said you would?

More off topic stuff above including my own post now.

Interesting article in the Global Post : How Europe lost its military might
While Europe has more troops, the United States has invested in military infrastructure.

globalpost.com/dispatch/news/regions/europe/110715/how-europe-lost-its-military-might

Poland doesn`t need a large army,. If a conflict starts, millions of men and women will man and women the barricades in cities and towns, sacrificing their lives but bleeding the enemy out, too.

Poland has a very special form of defence in the mohair beret brigade :) Their bile is instantly poisonous and their axe-wielding skills are a sight to behold. When they charge at you, you had better run like hell :)

HHHmmm, the balistic deflecting proparties of 2 by 4 is much underrated,as is the tactical genius of 3 people taking cover behind a street lamp....................better not take the p!ss too much as Ive a funny feeling I know the girl and the lad in the middle :)

But,a question,when I was with my students in Gliwice a few years ago one of the local lads was telling me about the firing range in his High Schools basement,mentioned Kalashnikovs...........still a popular after school activity in PL?

I Dont Believe this Ranking.

I am from Brazil and Brazil DONT HAVE a so Powerful Army.

I Really cant believe that our Army is strongest then the German one, for example.

My wife (mid-30's) and her classmates had to fire two rounds from an AK when she was at school, where there was a firing range. It was something every schoolkid had to do in those days. I hear kids in the US bring their own nowadays.

Theres a joke about old nazi generals moving to south america in there somewhere......

She did not.Not from kbk ak,now if you say kbks then I believe you.

Do you mean SKS ?

Lucky her: we had to make do mainly with Lee Enfields (and the very occasional play with a .303 Bren gun). Just as I was leaving we got some SA80 variants to play with.

I will report you to the Mohair Beret Defamation Comission!


The cover is mean but their hearts - noble.


Yes, these guys take part in all reconstructions:


Seanus?


Nope. Those rifles were not used in aftr school activity clubs. I disassembled and assembled an AK at uni military classes in 1980s.