Mass immigration to Poland - article and response

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Power#Black_is_beautiful

"Black is beautiful"...but not White, huh? Hypocrits...


Well, we are paying for that 70 years after.
Every try to curb the invasions of non-Europeans into our continent is now demeaned easily with calling it "Nazi".

Why don't you move for example one of these black districts of the US? They will show you this equality of Black Power, no doubt about it! Do you honestly believe what you write? How naive one could be! :)

Come on guys! The black ppl have been treated like second rate humans by us, WHITES, for centuries. It's so strange then that they develop a sense of pride and try to get rid of this yoke we have put upon then for so long? It's only natural this happens and now the whites, indirectly the instigators of this Black Power movement (only supported by a minority btw, most black ppl just want to get on with their lives and have decent jobs like everybody else on the planet) start crying that it's time for a WHITE counterweight? Gimme a break, pls. Wherever the white man came, he has always subdued the native ppl and always forced them to work for him. And why? Because they had weapons and maybe the natives were a bit too naive. But I think it's only fair that they get the equality they need. And lesser, those black districts are exceptions. The majority of the black ppl lives in mixed areas and is not willing to slit your throat for a couple of quid. Ppl who do that are criminals, you're mixing things up here a bit.

Edit: Lesser, a question for you: do you live yourself in such a black district?

>^..^<

M-G (equality for everybody)

Speak for yourself!

While the English, Scottish, Welsh, Dutch, Spanish and French may indeed has some reason to have "Empire guilt", I as a Slav certainly do not. You personally may have treated blacks badly in the past (though you probably haven't), but I certainly HAVE NOT. Stop blaming the entire white race for the crimes of a few thousand members of the ruling class.

And, in case you haven't noticed, these same white people have done a pretty good job of enslaving their fellow WHITES throughout history as well. I know little about Dutch history, but I certainly know my Polish and English history, and from what I know, it doesn't look like whitey did whitey many favours either!

This fool lives in a city littered with posters such as this,


What the what the what?

Just checking to see if you're paying attention ;)

yes and Welsh in particular are aggressive people

Well at least they can play rugger

There is a certain paradox to this debate. White europeans are collectively labelled as aggressors against the poor innocent third worlders, and we must collectively(of course) pay for the sins of some groups of white europeans. Yet, if white europeans want to collectively, show their pride in being of white european descent, this is somehow wrong. In fact it is not just wrong, but must mean you are a card holding Nazi. Strange if you ask me.

* I have no interest in white european nationalism. I have no interest in white nationalism.

Its simply left-wing indoctrination, as always.

But we need them. Havent you heard? Where would we be without the Turkish street vendors, the Pakistani take away, the Nigerian internet cafe?

We must have been starving before they opened all those shops and restaurants, how did we cope? :D

I can only join other posters here, speak for yourself.


Even if 'their' racism flourished from racist actions of some white individuals, this is still racism which should be condemned. It means simply that "their" reaction was not reasonable.


Wrong perspective. This is not characteristic for white people, this is characteristic for empires. Bigger or lesser empires were present since humankind started to form structures which resembled today's state. This is issue certainly beyond ethnic boundaries.



No, fortunately I don't. However I'm glad that you confirmed my logically consistent assumption that in ethnic districts racism is inevitable.


You put these words in my mouth. I never claimed that blacks are criminals in general. As a Catholic I reject and condemn racism. Whether this is white, black, yellow or semitic this doesn't matter. I stated that slogan "Black Power" is purely racist and I did not change my mind because of your rhetorical fallacy.

Because you type it doesnt make it logical. It is an assumption and you probably are consistent in that guess.


What happens when the crazy ethnics consider their civilization "higher"?


You have the Irish to thank for that.....you know the Irish and their crazy ethnic names.

You cannot deny, so at least feel necessary to question my authority.


What is crazy about ethic that allow you to be open minded? Common sense allow people to make distinctions, those smarter even have ability to do it right, without being emotionally involved. What would be really dumb? To claim that all civilizations are equal. (in sense of summary of all kind of development) Neither wise, it would be to state that once the highest civilization must remain the highest forever.

I do.
You have an opinion not authority still there was nothing logical in what you said however much you want to believe it.


It’s all relative if you take an absolutist view you end up with two sets of people shouting "Heathen" at each other. I am however glad to see you having a Eurocentric viewpoint.

As a Polish person I would have thought that you may have some insight into being at the wrong end of the microscope. I do that is why I mentioned Ireland’s role in re-evangelising Europe. Not emotion just perspective.

Can anyone tell me the benefits of multiculturalism? Dont say foreign restaurants, as you only need a miniscule number of immigrants to staff them. A small minority of bleeding heart liberal eurocrats seem hell bent on ensuring we have complete societial change based on mass immigration from Eastern Europe, Asia, and Africa. This is backed by governments and business leaders as they want to have a continual increase in population to support the insane, laissez faire, open economic systems where we need to expand to stay still. I want to know why the left want this mass immigration. Because if there is a good reason for it I will jump on board too. The only decent answer I have received so far, is that mixing with certain races will help end skin cancer.

Any takers?

You are very confused, on the one hand you argue against "laissez faire, open economic systems” yet on the other you "want to know why the left want this mass immigration."

You seem to be blaming left and right at the same time. All that is clear is that you dont like multiculturalism.

Migration is a product of open markets so one such benefit could be the cheap computer (Not a low blow) you are typing on or commodities like Silver (Low Blow).

In the 1970's the developing world had a higher standard of living than it does today so we got more stuff and they collectively became poorer. What do you want to trade off?

This idea that multiculturism is a product of the left is laughable.
What the "Bleeding Hearts" are saying is that people deserve a level playing field.

Not at all.


Yes.


The left want it for the feel good factor. The right, for profits. Both shafting the working class.


Nothing cheap about this, boy.


Might as well make a few quid out of the system before it all goes tits up.


This Yank can answer that question far better than yours truly.


It originated in Canada. By the left. Laugh at your own idiocy.


Immigrants have more than a level playing field. They are fully backed by legislation, hundreds of government bodies, quangos and agencies.

So, Barney, no tangible answers? Thought not. Next.

Take this guilt quiz and see where you stand!

thepeoplescube.com/GuiltQuiz/index.php

No prn this time Admin!

What the hell is this supposed to mean, Mick?

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Hypocritical response ignoring the part you play in the system you despise.


I can assure you that your machine was a lot less expensive than it would have been otherwise, I thought you were old enough to remember or are you too busy with your "shotgun" and the Tallaghban?


The Developed world has more than a level playing field. They are fully backed by legislation, hundreds of government bodies, quangos and agencies


You dont seem to understand how the real world works, I suggest you do a bit more reading and a lot less shouting and maybe just maybe the idea that "they" did it to you will go away.

Its known as covering ones hole.


Whats your problem with Tallaght?


We are talking about immigration. If you want to discuss fair trade and a fairer deal for the developing world, start a thread on it.


Oh but I do, Brit. You do not seem to understand that multiculturalism is a failed ideology. You do not seem to understand that your country is on the verge of going bust. We simply cannot afford "diversity", "enrichment", "vibrancy" and "colour." Bit rich to be calling for multiculturalism, like you have in other threads, when you do not reside in the state.

What prn? It just said "Find SXY girls in Manchester!" on mine :D


I see no evidence of a reducing 3rd World birth rate, whereas the developed world's birth rate is reducing. Maybe there's a connection? The only reason the population is still rising in countries like the UK is due to immigration - and guess where the majority come from. And no, the answer isn't Poland. China controlled its population and - surprise, surprise - became one of the world's economic powerhouses again. Maybe Africans and certain others could learn a lesson from that.

Heres one for the multiculti fanatics to ponder on over their cafe mocha on this October morn.

"It is not as wrong raping a Swedish girl as raping an Arab girl," says Hamid, in an interview about a gang rape involving a Swedish girl and immigrant perps.

Immigrants are "waging war" against Swedes through robbery

The wave of robberies the city of Malmö has witnessed during this past year is part of a "war against the Swedes." This is the explanation given by young robbers from immigrant backgrounds when questioned about why they only rob native Swedes, in interviews with Petra Åkesson for her thesis in sociology.

"Power for me means that the Swedes shall look at me, lie down on the ground and kiss my feet."

*From the biggest selling daily newspaper in Sweden.

Hardly surprising, if Swedish law is like UK law.

Over here, scum like those above have nothing to lose - they see prison as an occupational hazard, and after release, they get rehoused on "their" council estate where they "run tings" and consider themselves untouchable.

Whereas decent, tax-paying, working, responsible citizens can lose everything by fighting back - job, career, private tenancy, mortgaged housing - in a system which doesn't allow us to defend ourselves. We all know who is responsible for this, but in times of rocketing unemployment, things change, and I think that more and more people will have "nothing to lose" over the next few years.

I prefer the word hypocrisy.


I have no problem with any part of my country, can you say the same? I thought I would help you with the naming of your fantasy "Youth of Ireland shall arise" militia.


You really cant see how the two are related.


The thread is about Mass immigration to Poland, Part of the EC. If you want to live in a fantasy land where European countries have, individually, a smaller shout than collectively, dream on. Strangely I am also opposed to the Lisbon treaty and the undemocratic re- running of the referendum but I live in the real world.


Do you copy everything from the back of cereal boxes?

Look at the great cities of the world and tell me why they are great.
You and the other partitionists in Leinster house made a mistake embracing Globalisation live with it and stop crying.

Like Jonathan Woodgate, you have no other idea to get in the way of the one you have.

OsiedleRuda
I’m talking about absolute poverty, while linked to birth rate, it is largely determined by other factors.

The problem is that you don't get any real punishment for most crimes in Sweden.

Your faith in open-mindedness of humankind is amazing. Perhaps I'm a bit cynical but at least more realistic.


One doesn't exclude another. Beside of that, this is just your opinion! :)


It is not relative, I claim that my (call it 'Eurocentric') viewpoint is the the most perfect one. I won't change my mind until somebody provide convincing argumentation.

By the way, why are you glad because of my Eurocentric viewpoint?



You just repeat popular false stereotypes. Neither the left is idealist or the right is all about money. This is just old leftist propaganda, however sound funny from somebody who declare opposition to this political agenda. Politicians and business that cooperate with them are bunch of hypocrites, they are neither leftist or rightist but totally opportunists.

Old style conspiracy theory about powerful free market forces is completely false. Supporters of free market consist tiny minority without any great financial backs.

Political establishment prefer socialism because this is extremely corrupt system when decisions are made by thousands of bureaucrats. The EU is so greatly over-regulated that this would be comical (allowed angle of bananas, etc) if we all would not be targeted by this policy.

This is much easier for great corporation to corrupt few relatively poor bureaucrats than compete on free market. State protection allow big corporations to be privileged over the rest. I bet that you have heard many times how governments saved/ regularly subsided/offered exemption from tax to big corporations. I also bet that you have never heard about such policy towards their smaller competition on a market. Socialism this is a system of big corporations. Free market this is a never ending battle where smaller fishes have many advantages over centrally managed corporations.

Democratic politicians on other hand are mostly cunning people of low morals. Without being in politics where they parasite on taxpayer's pockets they would archive nothing worth noticing. For this group contact with big corporations is priceless, this is the only chance to get some relatively big (on their standards) cash.

Those two groups need each other and together they need socialist state to realize their goals. On the free market big corporations must compete and politicians/bureaucrats cannot regulate market rules and earn cash out of it.

Please open your eyes!

As far as immigration from non western states is concentrated, European states should prevent those people from coming and trade with them without any protectionism. European consumers deserve more competition on the market.