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"It's too late for Germany" (but not for Poland)


Dirk diggler  10 | 4452  
2 Nov 2018 /  #1651
Well rich the thing is that millions of thrm didnt want this garbage. This was essentially merkels idea. Shes the primary one responsible for this. Yet after all the problems shes caused in germany and neighboring countries by inviting every third worlder who doesnt feel like working and enticing them with free money, housing, medical care, education, etc. Shell just leave with her tail between her legs as she realizes people no longer support her and her multikulti policies. But dont think for a minute shell be affected. Oh no. Shell live in an ivory tower with a pension for the rest of her life. As another one of the childless leaders of the eu (strange phenomenon tjat so many of the leftist leaders have no kids) she has no stake in that happens in germany and the rest of europe after shes gone. She should be put in one of germanys no go zones and witness the problema shes created first hand. Although shell never experience the same things as the thousands of women who were raped or the hundreds murdered. No one not even a horny migrant would touch her.

I guaruntee if the countries that took in these migrants by the hundreds of thousands and even millions put it to a referendum for the citizens it wouldnt pass. Naturally the eurocrats and people like merkel dont like real democracy and would never allow such a vote to take place.

@Joker
Thats the worst thing about it. If you criticize islam, the migrants, etc even if you point out facts which anyone can verify well the pc police will fine and even arrest you for not toeing the pc marxist multikulti line.
Spike31  3 | 1485  
2 Nov 2018 /  #1652
Modern Europe in just 2 images.
Tacitus  2 | 1273  
2 Nov 2018 /  #1653
Interesting how similar old antisemtic cartoons from the Nazi era and modern antimuslim cartoons are. Then again, the people who draw them arr also very much alike in their mindsetting and tactics.
Bratwurst Boy  8 | 11918  
2 Nov 2018 /  #1654
I wonder what these Germany-haters would say when Germany goes all Nazi again and starts to treat the muslim immigrants like the Jews back then...

Would they applaud for Germany becoming Nazi again? Even as they usually use the Nazi past to beat us with it? Will their brains explode?
Spike31  3 | 1485  
2 Nov 2018 /  #1655
Interesting how similar old antisemtic cartoons from the Nazi era.

Well, you are an expert on that so I won't deny it. Sadly, all that I see here is a state of modern Sweden. Which is unfortunate cause I like Swedes.

Would they applaud for Germany becoming Nazi again?

Typical German mind which only operates in two extreme modes. Either kill them all and make soap out of them or let them all rape us and don't protest (and those who protest call them nazis that will show them!).

Have you ever heard about like different, more civilized measures? Like border control for example? :-)
Tacitus  2 | 1273  
2 Nov 2018 /  #1656
ypical German mind which only operates in two extreme modes.

It must be convenient to live in a world in which you can stereotype people so easily.

Have you ever heard about like different, more civilized measures?

Like judging them fairly, and not based on the actiond of a few individuals?
Spike31  3 | 1485  
2 Nov 2018 /  #1657
Anyway, a more current topic. A banner, that Polish National Movement wants to use to greet Angela Merkel during her visit in Warsaw later today:
cms neuf  1 | 1903  
2 Nov 2018 /  #1658
Yawn. If you use the search function there is already a lengthy thread about reparations for you to spam.

Do you ever post anything apart from issues about race ethnicity or the war?
Spike31  3 | 1485  
2 Nov 2018 /  #1659
Yawn.

A drop of water bores through rock. And this thread is also suitable

Do you ever post anything apart from issues about race ethnicity or the war?

I did. About the economy. Maybe that subject was a bit too heavy for you but it's worth to learn.
Dirk diggler  10 | 4452  
2 Nov 2018 /  #1660
Well, i would say myanmar by far has the best handle on the issue seconded by australia.. even the us isnt playing around anymore - you throw rocks, we shoot bullets.

Merkel is not going to get a warm welcome by the crowds

a few individuals?

75% of migrants are unemployed, 99% of asylum seekers and theyre expected to be for 5+ years, thousands upon thousands of migrants commited rapes/sexual assaults including two gang rapes this week - and thats just what made the news, hundreds committed murders and stabbings, 55% of pakis are inbred with 25 to 30% of turks thus affecting their intellectual capabilities, 25% of muslims believe suicide bombing is justified, a huge chunk support sharia law in some countries where many of the migrants come from like afghanistan its a majority...

100% entered germany to take advantage of the welfare system as they crossed numerous countries which they refused to settle in despite being safe countries, because they dont have the wonderful freebies that merkel gives them.

Not quite 'actions of a few'
Bratwurst Boy  8 | 11918  
2 Nov 2018 /  #1661
Merkel is not going to get a warm welcome by the crowds

And here a reality check from this year:

Poles and Germans growing closer together, survey shows

After decades of mistrust, Poland and Germany have increasingly similar views on their joint future.

thefirstnews.com/article/poles-and-germans-growing-closer-together-survey-shows-879

The vast majority of Germans and most Poles want the countries' mutual relations to be focused more on the present and the future, a survey has found.

Something to remember...better to ignore the few nutters here, they are so not speaking for the majority of Poles who is equally pro-EU and sees a common future with Germany! :)

Germany no longer seen as 'threat' in Poland: poll

politico.eu/article/germany-poland-no-longer-seen-as-threat-poll/

..."It is encouraging that a large part of the Polish population trusts the German role in Europe,"

Miloslaw  21 | 5158  
2 Nov 2018 /  #1662
Poles and Germans growing closer together, survey shows

"Closer" but not close.

There is a subtle difference.
Spike31  3 | 1485  
2 Nov 2018 /  #1663
Something to remember...better to ignore the few nutters here, they are so not speaking for the majority of Poles

"Something to remember...better to ignore the few nutters here, they are so not speaking for the majority of Germans"

Wow, making a poor quality propaganda is easier that I though, thanks @BratwurstBoy :-P

And also thanks for the tip that it is enough to call someone a "nutter" instead for providing a decent argument or a relevant point in discussion.

From now on we're going to be discussing German style :-)
Bratwurst Boy  8 | 11918  
2 Nov 2018 /  #1664
There is a subtle difference.

I wonder about that "closer" too...after all the polish gov made anti-german propaganda their daily staple.

Even as they are now crying about Merkel leaving, as they very well know it won't get any warmer in Berlin for Poland now, they couldn't help themselves and blasting any good relationship Poland and Germany still had from before PiS times...

That Poles and Germans still grew closer inspite of all that is astounding and proof of the resilience of the polish people! :)
Dirk diggler  10 | 4452  
2 Nov 2018 /  #1665
Yes poles and germans are growing closer, not poles and merkel... poles despise Merkel for qhat shes done to europe then calling for solidarity and demanding we destroy our own culture and society by sharing in her burden.

Poles now see germans in a better light as merkel and tbe eurocrats gave up on their calls for fining poland 2 bil euro for not taking migrants and the relocation scheme ended in failure. If they were still pressuring poland to take in third world migrants, which 3/4 of poles oppose according to cbos, they'd be as against germany as just 1 2 years ago. Also trying to sanction poland didnt help
Bratwurst Boy  8 | 11918  
2 Nov 2018 /  #1666
...so, they hate Merkel even as she has polish roots and they love Trump even as he has german roots?

Crazy people! :)
Dirk diggler  10 | 4452  
2 Nov 2018 /  #1667
Please merkel is about as polish as Bernie sanders or Eminem...
Bratwurst Boy  8 | 11918  
2 Nov 2018 /  #1668
You didn't know?

Merkel is of German and Polish descent. Her paternal grandfather, Ludwik Kaźmierczak, was a German policeman of Polish ethnicity, who had taken part in Poland's struggle for independence in the early 20th century.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_of_Angela_Merkel

One of the many millions of "Gerpoles" living in both countries...we are so mixed up! :)
Dirk diggler  10 | 4452  
2 Nov 2018 /  #1669
So shes a quarter polish at best? Damn thats even worse then... she should be respectful towards her roots. Instead she demands poles take in the burden she invited and also face terrorism, thousands of rapes, no go zones and spend billions providing for people who arent too keen on working
Bratwurst Boy  8 | 11918  
2 Nov 2018 /  #1670
she should be respectful towards her roots.

She was! I doubt she can not be respectful...you can think of her politics what you want (I'm not a fan either btw.) but she was always known as a quiet, pragmatic and respectful personality. Even sometimes a little bit "to" quiet.

I guess many of her opponents are gonna miss her for that...
Spike31  3 | 1485  
2 Nov 2018 /  #1671
Instead she demands poles take in the burden she invited and also face terrorism, thousands of rapes, no go zones

Germany wanted us to share the problems they've created themselves and are furious that we dared to refuse it


Lyzko  41 | 9677  
2 Nov 2018 /  #1672
I hear a great deal of usually negative stereotyping on this Forum.

While tempting to stereotype, it must be apparent that all nationalities represented constantly try to fight those negative images!
When someone writes "All Poles...." or "You Germans....", there's a hell of a difference between that and posting instead "Many Poles who have been quoted as saying...". A majority of Germans interviewed.." etc.

If somebody's an idiot, a racist, jerk or general nuisance, it's not going to make the slightest bit of difference in the long run whether they're are ethnically Polish, German, Jewish, Finnish or what have you.
Bratwurst Boy  8 | 11918  
2 Nov 2018 /  #1673
...or using the short but oh so much more truthful "IMHO" (In My Humble Opinion)....
Lyzko  41 | 9677  
2 Nov 2018 /  #1674
Look who's talking.

When was the last time you were humble, fella? Or is there a convenient double standard here?
:-)
Bratwurst Boy  8 | 11918  
2 Nov 2018 /  #1675
Heh:) I use it more often than not! :)

But generally nationalist nutters thrive on the "We" against "You"...believing they are speaking for millions of people, the whole people and who begs to differ is either brainwashed or an idiot or a commie..or everything together!
Lyzko  41 | 9677  
2 Nov 2018 /  #1676
Being a self-professed "hobby historian", you couldn't really argue with that statement...at least not cogently at this point, even if you tried.
Bratwurst Boy  8 | 11918  
2 Nov 2018 /  #1677
You don't need to be a hobby-historian to see that basic rule.

You even said so yourself...especially the negative stereotyping resorts generally to "THEM" (insert lotsa crappy stuff) against "US" (insert lotsa good stuff).

To hurl the same wild accusations with "IMHO" just isn't the same to them, it seems...
Lyzko  41 | 9677  
2 Nov 2018 /  #1678
Or it merely covers your butt so that you can appear blameless once posting outrageous garbage.
Bratwurst Boy  8 | 11918  
2 Nov 2018 /  #1679
I dunno if that works...outrageous garbage doesn't sound any better when taking a whole people hostage for it.
Spike31  3 | 1485  
2 Nov 2018 /  #1680
While tempting to stereotype

Let's be fair though, Lyzko, the whole Western world stereotypes Germans. I don't even know if there's one single regular German left in Germany, just walking stereotypes like a good 'ol @BratwurstBoy here :-)

And lets remember that American Germans were the ones who invented so called "polish jokes" which depicted all Poles in a less than favourable way.

Another thing is that when a person brags about his country's accomplishments he also needs to accountable for its failures.

Finnish or what have you

I wish we had some Finns on this forum.

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