"It's too late for Germany" (but not for Poland)

...ROFL

"Hearsay Spike"!

I don't hate Germany for it.... I hate leaders like Merkel and the eurocrats for allowing it and totally changing the society, and not for the better and then criticizing Poland, Hungary, etc. because they don't want terrorism, skyrocketing rapes and tens of billions of tax payers money to go to migrants who lounge around all day and pop our more kids that'll do the same

Well....as I said...it's probably mainly us old farts worrying to much about it...the young folks seems to have alot less problems with it. *shrugs*

Most of the people joining movements like Pegida, the Identitarian groups, etc are young people... AfD also does very well with German youth and the educated.

youtube.com/watch?v=NRZiTreKcCk&t=187s
Definitely more people under 40 than over.

I want her hoodie lol Auschwitz university

Live pegida rally going on now - youtube.com/watch?v=KmD_yOw3nMM

Lot of younger people as well...

Hmmm, as I see it it's the young people on the move...from the flat lands into the big cities...from one low immigration country to another with high immigration...they are extremely mobile.

Dirk diggler, those leaders reflect the general German population. People like Merkel and Steinmeier were democratically elected, just like Hitler was in 1933. They only have a 'slightly' different agenda. German President Frank-Walter Steinmeier has declared that "There are No Native Germans, We are a Nation of Immigrants"

breitbart.com/europe/2018/08/25/germans-immigration-country-president/

Germany is lost, and we should focus on protecting Poland from this madness.

That's easy! Stay poor and backwards and you will be unappealing to any immigrants...your country will suck but at least you will have it to yourself only!

There's a better solution: we just simply won't keep our borders wide open for millions of illegals from Africa and Middle East like Germany did.

Simple solution, yet too complicated for Germans.

Also, we've got 2 million Ukrainians working on temporary visas in Poland. The main advantage of them over muslims is that they came to Poland to work and not to sponge on welfare state. And also they can be send back at any time since they need to renew work visas every 6 months/one year. I guess Poland is not so unappealing to any immigrants, is it?

Funny that you mention Ukrainians...as most of them prefer Germany and the EU to Poland, now that they can choose...


kyivpost.com/ukraine-politics/unian-media-report-most-ukrainians-in-poland-would-leave-for-germany.html


thenews.pl/1/12/Artykul/375981,Most-Ukrainians-in-Poland-would-leave-for-Germany-study

Getting the polish gov into a quite a pickle...as a booming economy needs laborers....and with so many Poles moving out, and now these Ukrainians moving on...


dw.com/en/poland-fears-economic-hit-as-eu-opens-door-to-ukrainians/a-42367764

Now that they need laborers to keep their economy smoking the polish gov somehow finds itself competing with equally labor starved Germany right by it's side.

Poland better work harder to be more appealing to immigrants...

Indeed.


Better than having regular terror attacks, thousands of women sexually assaulted - 1k in one night in one city alone and become a minority in your own country. Nearly half of children under 6 in germany arent even german. Youre going to end up a minority in your own country, just as the brits are already a minority in their own capital and numerous other cities. Then the more radical muslims will undoubtedly start forming parties supporting sharia and youll probably be dumb enough to give them sharia courts. Go ahead sacrifice your country and people on the altar of diversity and multiculturalism. The majority of poles want no part in that. We like our ZERO islamic terror attack record.

The US-melting pot culture clearly doesn't work in countries such as Germany. Ain't working much here either any longer, sorry to say.

....and back on the old record goes...*epic eyeroll*

It's useless to keep posting numbers and facts and stats...your belief is really that, a belief. Like a religion...like an ideology...totally ignorant to reality...you WANT to be a believer!

That is entire modus operandi. No matter how often you refute him, he'll constantly repeat the same arguments.

That's crass!

He has been doing it for months before you returned to this forum.

I have butted heads alot in my time but that is someone special...heh:)

So youre telling me that 42% of children in germany ARENT non german? Thats 75% of migrants are employed and 99% of asylum seekers are employed? Next youll tell me most od the recent terror attacks in germany werent by muslims and that the 1000 women assaulted in cologne were all by native germans...

Just read some of the previous posts and spare us from having to repeat it for you.

I think I will ignore you from now on, Dirk. There are other discussions where people are really interested in exchanging arguments (and stats)...

People like BratwurstBoy prefer to twist facts and pretend that everything's OK instead of actually fixing the problem.

Says the guy who doesn't even bother with bringing up facts....

One thing is awesome though..that most of the people who cry so much about the looming "doom" of Germany, the loss of it's culture and identity because of the immigrants, are very often the same who actually hate Germany and the Germans...together with all their aquaintances.

The fact is that German population is being replaced by muslims. That 40% of "German" newborns aren't even German. That your own president claims that there's no native Germans and Germany is a nation of immigrants. And your Chancellor Angela Merkel has let in close to 2 million muslim illegals from Africa and Middle-East. Do you need more facts? Just wake up people...

Come on...aren't you happy? No more arrogant Teutons...won't that be cool...

The data comes from a two-year study by the German Federal Statistical Office which has shown not only has there been a strong increase of migrants coming to Germany from overseas, but also a strong trend of native Germans leaving to move abroad, Die Welt reports.

The effects are most clearly seen in western Germany where it is estimated that up to 42 percent of children under the age of six now come from a migration background, but the reason for the rapid change in demographics is not down to mass migration alone.

My mistakr, 42% of children in WEST german

Here's the source showing 75% of migrants are unemployed... ft cites the german labor bureau
amp.ft.com/content/022de0a4-54f4-11e7-9fed-c19e2700005f

No 'right wing sources'... all come from german government

Anytime you want to post stats that majority migrants are gaimfully employed, aren't driving up rape stats arent overpopulating germany and arent causing majority od terror attacks im ready....

That's true that I think that Germany, throughout our common history, was the worst neighbour that we could imagine. And even now German politicians are trying to control Poland, most of the time hiding behind the backs of EU bureaucrats.

And that's also true that I wouldn't cry if Germany has collapsed.

But from a strategic point of view it is better for Poland to have Germany in constant civil war between muslims and Germans than 100% muslim Germany taken over by Turks, African and Middle-easterners. So I would rather see you opposing them while you can. It would gives us more time to prepare.

I won't eat a Döner tonight...that will show them!

The concept of citizenship in Germany is essentially one of birth right.

If someone, born in Germany, of Turkish parents, whose parents never became German citizens, wishes to apply for a regular salaried position (as opposed to off-the books aka "under the table" piece work), by law, that person MUST become a German citizen!

By virtue of having been conceived in the FRG, doesn't guarantee anybody the automatic rights of German citizenship. This remains a key difference between Germany and the US.

During the '90's when I was still living in Germany, there was considerable discussion in the news and on television concerning "the rights of foreigners", or "Auslaenderrechte", and whether "foreigners" ought to be able to granted special status, allowing them to, among other things, vote in a general national election, pay taxes, and so forth. Ultra conservatives back then actually wondered whether or not a person of, for instance, Spanish, Greek, Turkish guest worker parents could realistically-speaking ever become "a German". Because of the heinous legacy of the Third Reich with its infamous "blood laws" (Blutgesetze) of only permitting one of "German origin" (including, though not limited to the so-called "Wolga Germans" as well as "Heim ins Reich"-Kinder) to legally or officially being able to be deemed a German citizen, German Jews having been summarily stripped of their citizenship as of '38), the German government decided to bend over backwards and revisit the entire idea of citizenship status.

Merkel has no intentions of going back on it, Seehofer along with others from the Opposition such as Markus Soeder of Bavaria, and of course the Far Right groups, would ideally like to change all that.

....you never told me about that! Where?

Come off it, dude! You knew I lived for half-year or so in Schoeneberg.