"It's too late for Germany" (but not for Poland)

You are right. To import cheap workforce for the most menial tasks / for demographic reasons does not help with the digital future of our economies nor with the sinking population of our future societies.

The future economies will have their hands full with integrating those parts of the native population which will have problems to find their place in this highly automatized, digitalized world. It is madness to keep importing these problems.

There will be no need to import people for work or to fill out the towns again...

The law of asylum should be cut down to it's bare roots again. Only refugees fleeing from war and oppression, and only as long as needed. Not this kind of hidden immigration!

You didn't read that properly. It said born OUTSIDE the UK not in the UK. By the way, as I said earlier Britain doesn't have the same racial divide as the USA. A white working class Londoner will generally consider his second or third generation Afro-Carribean or Indian neighbour to be as British as he is himself. I lived there. I know what I'm talking about.

The street I lived in in North London had a typical mix of Irish, black, Asian, one or two Chinese. There was an London Irish family whose little girl used to practise her Irish dancing steps on the street outside her house while ther Jamaican neighbour, would stand on the doorstep playing his harmonica and shouting 'cor blimey' after he'd had a few drinks :D Next door lived a real old salt of the earth London couple, Jack and Winnie, a few doors away an incredibly posh lady, all tweeds and silk headscarves like the Queen. It was both racially and socially diverse which is typical of London, but it was a true little community.

Oh and DougPol is right that Poles found it much harder to integrate into English culture than former Colonials like the Jamaicans or Indians.

That's because you and they live in America.....

Solzhenitsyn was asylum. Sub-Sahara, poor like dirt blacks are not. But, to most women and men without balls, they are a sob story that forces the logical side of the their brains to shut down. If you point that out to these idiots, you are just a mean and heartless sob. Ask them how many they would allow in and get silence.

That is how it's so easy to win with liberals. Just ask "how many" or "how much" and they gone, because liberals hate numbers.

Here's a number for you. We agreed with the EU to take 600 refugees into Ireland in 2015 as our share of spreading out the influx at the height of the crisis. Our population is under 5 million. I consider that a reasonable number. Irish people are compassionate but we're also sensible.

We are very fortunate in being an island because people can't simply flood into the country and we have an extremely strict vetting process. The Irish police went to Italy to interview the potential candidates during the crisis and carry out background checks on them. We only accept about 20% of applications we receive through other channels.

Pure tokenism to shut the EU up and feel good. There is a billion people who would like to come to Ireland. It's like giving a dollar to a starving family of four. Why not 601? Do you see how stupid that 600 really is?


But not compassionate enough to admit 601?


No, you don't. You could vet me because I am in a country where the government has everything on me, including every purchase, treatment, and my shoe size.

What is the composition of those 600 lucky ones by gender and age? Let me guess, mostly men of military age. Where did they come from? Syria or Africa?

Are you planning to send them back home when the conditions are good or are they in permanently. If so, they are immigrants, not refugees.

@Atch

Great. It doesnt change the fact that white Brits are a minority in their own capital and that your country allowed a parallel legal system based on 7th century islam to be established.


These doca shows otherwise. Its the same story everywhere, once there's too many third worlders coming in the native population moves to be around fellow whites and is not happy that their old neighborhood now has tons of mosques, sharia courts, ninja women, a million kebab stands, etc.

Divided britain: ethnic segregation is growing
youtu.be/-hHyIEhpQnU

Because no european wants to live around Somalis, afgans, etc.

White flight in london
youtu.be/yaGcpdYHfxM

Migrant migraine? London will look like Islamabad
youtu.be/wjvFhGH2eyo

This one is probably the best
Diverse and divided britain
youtu.be/uQCn-6N9hng

im surprised that uk doesn't have laws about women dressing like ninjas and bank robbers. Atleast otger countries made laws against the burka although theyre too cucked to actually enforce it


Shouldve been 0 or better yet a negative number and the ones already there shouldve been deported. Then again ireland is just another country thats fallen victim to leftists (even has a gay dude as pm) and is coddling third worlders

Well, the stupidity would lie in not placing a cap of some kind on numbers. It has to be capped somewhere. The logic of why not 601 becomes why not 602, why not 1,000.


Yes we do. We've been taking refugees since the 1980s and we've never had an Islamic terror attack - God between us and all harm. If refugees who settle in Ireland ever feel that they can go back to their homelands, fine but if not they can make their home with us.


Adrian, I really wonder about your brain cells at times - are they actually dying? The fact that you cannot remember that I am Irish considering the way I blather on about it, truly boggles the mind. And once again, you know NOTHING of the UK.

islamictribunal.org

So did yours. They're actually quite popular as a form of arbitration, and others have them too.
bethdin.org for Jewish issues, or perhaps lds.org/topics/church-disciplinary-councils?lang=eng for Mormon courts. And so on...

Forgot to answer this. About half are men and the rest are women and children. Don't know the ages of them. Top place of origin is Syria. I should also add that the figure of 600 was for 2015. We agreed to take up to 4,000 in total over a three year period but have only taken about 1,500 as far as I can remember.

The institutional misogyny of Islam is a concern (are women choosing those freely or being forced into them?) And is anyone keeping a record to make sure their rulings really are in line with British law (which directly contravenes Islamic law in many areas)...

Good sound common sense!

A common sense many german politicians from the left till to the center are lacking. They still avoid to put an official cap on it...keeps the AfD happy!

Their argument being that even #601 can't be turned back if he/she/it demands asylum, so why put a number on it in the first place...all hail "THE LAW".

Well I certainly agree one should place a cap especially when one considers that most immigrants whether they are refugees from war, asylum seekers or economic migrants will end up living in a handful of cities, probably with most of them concentrated in the capital, not evenly spread around the country. So if I were managing immigration policy, the first thing I would do is set a cap at a percentage of the population of the cities where the migrants are likely to end up living. You also have to consider the fact that while one percent of the urban population is not much at all, even if no more actually come, it will multiply over time through the natural process of reproduction, even if it's a very long time. You have responsiblity to think about the future of your country,not just for your children and grandchildren but beyond.

I sometimes think of it in relation to my own family history and indeed Irish history. On my father's side, we were part of Cromwell's invading army into Ireland in the 1600s. One man who arrived in Ireland nearly four hundred years ago and had only one son founded a family that numbers several hundred now. So, if an immigrant population integrates well, as Cromwell's forces did in Ireland oddly enough despite their violent arrival, then there's no problem, regardless of skin colour, but if they don't, there's a problem. In the North of Ireland, the invading armies and settlers did not integrate and the result of that is still there today.

Obviously though you have to temper that with the fact that you may have no option but to recruit from abroad in employment areas with a severe skills shortage.

Another thing to consider of course is your budget. Just as an ordinary individual can only give a certain amount to charity no matter how altruistic they may be, a nation can only afford to spend so much on helping refugees or asylum seekers. So it seems sensible to me to set a cap on numbers based on a) percentage of your urban population in key centres of employment and economic activity and b)your capacity to give aid without undermining the needs of your own native population and putting a strain on public services.

Another thing to consider is if the citizens of Ireland would voluntarily pay for your refugees. I mean pay now by a paycheck deduction marked, "Refugee tax - xxx.xx".

Yes - maybe Russian taxpayers could also tick a box to consent to paying for pimply twentysomethings to sit tweeting idiotic comments in a basement

From thejournal.ie/readme/irelands-national-debt-we-are-arguably-approaching-a-very-serious-crisis-3568652-Aug2017
Ireland's national debt: 'We are arguably approaching a very serious crisis'
Our country has a national debt of approximately €200 billion. About €50 billion of this debt needs to be repaid in the next three years, that's €10,000 for every man, woman and child. We repay debt by borrowing more money.

You can't afford refugees. Neither can we. It's a white man's mental disorder to be in debt up to his ears and still believe that he can play Santa. I wrote "man" as in mankind. Women can be just as stupid.

Irish people are very political Rich. It's a small country and people talk politics a lot. They know quite well that a portion of their taxes goes to fund these things and they're ok with it on the whole. Ireland is a charitable nation and will always put their hand in their pockets to help those whom they consider in need of that help.


Never mind the national debt - we'll be fine. There won't be another Famine. We can still afford to share our comparative riches with the destitute.

youtu.be/Fjn6lXR2g34

"Dublin boys" break into Lidl in the middle of storm and steel safe with digger they stole

youtu.be/MvIqt1QFvMs

Footage of the aftermath at the looted Lidl store in Dublin.


Most people think so, until they feel the reality on their skin. Slowly but surely Ireland is going on the same path as Sweden and Holland... or better said Swedistan.

@Adrian

West Europe is done for. The only thing that saves us East Europeans is that we are poor. The richest countries in Europe (for example, Germany) are the most affected by immigration. In a strange way the Commies wrecking our economies, at least they did something right. :)

What does that have to do with the thread?? Of course there are scumbags in Ireland, same as anywhere.


You know absolutely nothing about life in Ireland. What about those Orthodox Celts you bang on about? Were they attacked by Marauding Muslims when they went to Galway recently? They said they had a wonderful time. Big dream come true for them visiting my rainy, windy homeland. Nothing an Irish cross-wind that catches you on a junction and blows in every direction at once :))

@delphiandomine

Poland has no sharia courts and never will because poles wont tolerate that sh1t.

And no other country upholds legal rulings or has given sharia courts quite the legal standing with banking finance divorce etc as UK. Pathetic.


Same thing. Both cucked countries comitting cultural suicide. Its only a matter of time before ireland also has sharia courts, paki rape squads and white irish become a minority in their own capital, which is all i need to know about UK to determine that it has a high percentage of beta cucks who allow third world migrants to do whatever they want because too few people have the balls to stop them. Even the rotterham case alone speaks volumes about uk society.

As is always the case with the apologists, the above is a lie. Nobody anywhere ever put his hand in his pocket to part with cash for some foreign and useless scum. It's the government goons who do it.

How much did you give to refugee funds in the last three years?

Not the same thing at all.


This is our army recruitment video. Compare it to the UK. The voiceover is in Irish, the guy is saying "I am a Fenian Warrior, I am the son of Cu Chulainn, I am the brother of Fionn MacChumail, I am one of the Fianna". We're not English, Adrian :)

youtube.com/watch?v=3wIKck2idVI


Considering we only have about a 1% Muslim population I don't think so Girlfriend :)

Indeed. And our preference to have a homogenous society - 3/4 of poles do not support immigration from middle east or africa. And not scared to voice their opinions about islam and third world migrants. In other countries people are too scared to do that because theyre terrified of being called racist, xenophobe, islamaphobe, etc. Not Poles or other slavs though. We don't care. Wed rather be seen as backwards racists than have islamic terror attacks, no go zones, thousands of rapes, and tens of billions going to migrants. None of which is a problem in poland, czechy, Slovakia etc. So whos the stupid backward one? Looks to me as more and more europeans are following the example Poland and the v4 set back in 2015 as we already knew very well back then that third world migrants bring third world problems. And we dont want em. We have enough problems to deal with we dont need to import merkels burdens to create more.

We are not buying the liberals' percentage games. It took only two Muslim a-holes to paralyze Boston for days. Literally. You may have only a dozen active terrorists and your life is changed dramatically not knowing which truck will be the next killer truck.

As this moron, the mayor, said, get used to it. We know the terrorists are in London but we will do nothing so tough sh**..

How much money did you give to build Trumps wall Rich ?

Well at least its far better than the British one - where a muslim takes off his boots, which no soldier would ever do during a training or mission let alone a war, so he can pray and thus putting his squad's lives in jeopardy. Because diversity is of course more important than merit to the leftists....

youtube.com/watch?v=OQ4OoPNY_YM

Notice comments are disabled - they wouldn't be pretty....


Rich the British knew about a bunch of the terrorists and did NOTHING. They even allowed a dude who was so radical Pakistan kicked him out to settle in the UK....

That's 1% too many far as I'm concerned... but at least don't be like Germany, UK, Sweden, France, etc. and bring in more - unless of course you want regular terror attacks, no go zones, women and children being raped, billions going for supporting them since as Germany's example shows 75%+ are unemployed and will be for 5+ years. But if you want to destroy your society and culture be my guest. Bring in a million - within a few years you'll have schools like in Germany where there's onjly 1 or 2 kids that speak German and everyone else speaks Arabic.

I said we help those whom we believe to be in need and the Irish do. It is a fact.

There's no point in all of you nutcases trying to pretend that Ireland and the UK are the same because they're not. Most of our few Muslims are Indians, not Pakistanis and we have no ghettos. The country is simply too small. Now of course only a fool would say that we could never have an Islamic terrorist attack because that can happen in any country in the world, all countries in the Western world are a potential target. But:

1) the demographic of Ireland is very different to the UK,

2) we are a neutral country with no history of aggression against any Muslim nation and

3) we are a small and unimportant country on world's political and economic stage

So we tend not to attract a lot of hate and desire for vengeance.

I am so glad you asked.
I wrote two letters to Trump. The response to the first one is attached. I wrote that I liked what he was doing and never mind his enemies.

In my second letter, so far without a response, I offered to make a cash donation and actually go to the border and work for free in any capacity.

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You help with the wall, ill take the contract to build Fort Trump in Poland

politico.eu/article/poland-wants-to-build-fort-trump-andrzej-duda/amp