Poland's Justice Minister, Z. Ziobro appeals to Kora (and won't face State Tribunal)

Clearly they are high enough for him to want to hide behind immunity, because he is hiding behind immunity, just like his boss Duda.

do you know whats immunity is for?
one reason is -to protect people from mad dickheads who are tiring to misuse their position of power to harm them.

It isn't for anything, other than allowing corrupt politicians to hide behind their parliamentary position.

Why would a party that is supposedly anti-corruption hide behind immunity? It makes no sense whatsoever.

thats what PO been doing for last 8 years.plus smashing cars while drunk


he protects himself from mad people who are currently in power...
thats was "immunity" idea.to protect opposition from power wielding people from attacking them.
Ziobro is innocent.and 60 prosecutions found him innocent.
crazy hateful PO madman trying to use dirty methods to harm him.that where immunity serves its purpose.

You're very simply not telling the truth again, are you. Or would you like to give us details about those 60 prosecutions?

Why would a party that is supposedly anti-corruption hide behind immunity? It makes no sense whatsoever.
you lie Harry.
September 3 of that year Zbigniew Ziobro waived immunity [10 ] . 4 November 2009 investigation against him , however, was discontinued due to lack of evidence justifying a criminal offense
pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zbigniew_Ziobro

about those 60 prosecutions...am merely quoting what mularczyk said:
wpolityce.pl/polityka/266541-posel-po-oskarza-kolegow-o-lenistwo-ws-postawienia-ziobry-przed-ts-jest-kilku-poslow-ktorzy-zegnaja-sie-z-polityka-i-nie-chodza-na-glosowania

"This case is part of the campaign against Zbigniew Ziobro . There were 60 criminal cases, two committees of inquiry and nothing. Any judgment. Therefore, when you decided to overrule that Ziobro is guilty"

He says that 60 (suspected) criminal cases were investigated. You said there were 60 prosecutions. Would you like to give us details about those 60 prosecutions or would you prefer to admit that you have simply been caught making things up?

no..its not what he said..you lie again.
hes precise words:
"Było 60 postępowań karnych"-means criminal prosecutions,not criminal (suspected)investigations
postepowanie karne-prosecutions
dochodzenie - investigation

No, you're simply making things up, yet again: postępowań karnych are criminal proceedings, not prosecutions. But do feel most welcome to tell us about those prosecutions, perhaps you could tell us what charges the prosecutor brought during those prosecutions?

they not investigations neither.
man,you are worse that bedbug

Actually, they are. That's how the Polish system works: on receipt of a notification of the suspicion of the committing of a crime, criminal proceedings are opened and the allegation is investigated. If nothing is found, the proceedings go no further.


Should we conclude from the way that you resort to insults that you know your attempt to slip a lie past us has failed? Or would you like to tell us what charges the prosecutor brought in the 60 prosecutions you claim were brought?

didnt mean to insult this bedbug..sorry.i know there are some animal lovers here.


point is..whatever he was prosecuted or didnt get to prosecution due to investigation closed...still..point is,there was nothing against him found.geeezzz am not fkin lawyer.for me is no difference.

Is your repeated resorting to insults another sign that you have realised your attempt to slip a falsehood into the discussion has failed?


You claimed he has been subjected to 60 prosecutions. Please tell us what charges the prosecutor brought in those 60 prosecutions.

not much,wouldn't call them charges in our normal people standards..
only desperate squeals echo of PO pigs being driven away from the trough.repeated 60 times.

Charges have to be brought by the prosecutor in order for a prosecution to take place. So, tell us what charges the prosecutor brought in the 60 prosecutions you claim took place.

interesting thing i found:
fakty.interia.pl/polska/news-ostry-spor-ws-trybunalu-stanu-dla-ziobry-hanba-na-to-nie-wpa,nId,1893239

they refused to hear out Ziobros defense and his witness.Why ? Because it would prolong tribunal process
where is delf and her justice in making? stalinist like shi.t,this process
fkin basic right to defend was denied here... pathology scum PO

Exactly Harry you made point for gregy, charges didn't even went pass prosecutor office, meaning even in the legal system where prosecutors are sympathetic towards PO to say the least there were nothing to proceed with.

Cause there is nothing.
All that State Tribunal farce is yet another desperate political gamble before election.

Surely they can't proceed as he has immunity.

(By the way, it was PiS that attempted to control the prosecutors. Do stop mistaking PO for PiS)

Although, as PM, shifty-eyed Don rarely said anything intelligent, sensible, impartial or quotable, there are always exceptions to prove the rule. After the motion to prosecute Ziobro had been filed, "Prime Minister Donald Tusk, the most influential figure in the ruling party, spoke against it, saying such a step could tarnish Poland's image. Ruling parties shouldn't act using criminal law against leaders of the opposition 'even if you're 100% convinced they did bad things in the past', Mr. Tusk told reporters in Brussels."

Talking about while back when he waved away his immunity.

I don't like Ziboro, I don't like that much PiS, they are too center-left for me, but there is nothing else so far, unfortunately. PO is just bunch of crooks and opportunists without any ideology or anything going for them, they are vultures! Hand in hand with oligarchs and behind the curtain the ex-soviet secret police cabal.


That was something entirely different, the idea that a state prosecutors should be controlled by the state.
I'm talking about something else, connection based on personal ties - patronage (clientela).

And an absolutely dreadful idea. Ziobro really showed his real intentions with his moves there. It was probably the hallmark of Communism that prosecutors and judges were under state control, just like PiS attempted.


Something common to most parties in Europe, sadly.