Ashleys mind 3 | 446
9 Dec 2010 / #241
Oh, for this comment alone I'm glad I logged on... :)))
John Godson, born in Nigeria, might become Poland Sejm's first black deputy!
Never thought such a thread would attract so many stupid posts, but then again it just goes to show what generation x has brought to this world. You've got nothing better to do than fight each other on the internet. Wonder how many of you on here are actually doing something productive in their lives. Who ever this Godson guy is, black or white he's actually doing better than most of you on here. How do i know that? I hear you asking coz Successful people don't spend a lot of time fighting with strangers on the internet. They are busy doing best, what keeps them successful. I know i'm gonna get the stick coz thats what most of you are just waiting for but for crying out loud if the people in his constituency are going to vote for him based on what he is doing for them then let it be...
Ashleys mind 3 | 446
9 Dec 2010 / #243
I hear you asking coz Successful people don't spend a lot of time fighting with strangers on the internet. They are busy doing best, what keeps them successful.
It depends on whether you determine success as a measure of how much time you spend fighting people on the internet... ;)
It's fighting with words dude... everything's going to be alright...
edit: I personally am only here to have a few less posts in the Relationship/ Marriage section... cause it's really pathetic over there! ;)
Wonder how many of you on here are actually doing something productive in their lives.
So trying to convince people to change their views is unproductive?
Probably.
Ashleys mind 3 | 446
9 Dec 2010 / #245
Should we all go on strike?
joepilsudski 26 | 1387
9 Dec 2010 / #246
Never thought such a thread would attract so many stupid posts, but then again it just goes to show what generation x has brought to this world. You've got nothing better to do than fight each other on the internet. Wonder how many of you on here are actually doing something productive in their lives.
I list my productive activities: 25 years, guitarist: jazz, rock, world music & composer; Insurance agent USA (PA); Notary Public; Computer IT diploma: network adm/PC support services; Mental Health counselor and much more...Now, I am not afraid of work, and what I would like most is to move to Poland, but I need a job, plus reasonable place to stay to get started...I speak some Polish, but would increase my skill with more usage...I am people-friendly, street smart...Now, will someone help me move?...I am tired of USA...I do not fear Black Jews, as the USA is full of both.
I have actually heard Deputy Godson speak in very good Polish on a TV programme, he is very intelligent and at the end said himself 'I am black and proud of it'. (Jestem Murzynem). Whereas 17 years ago, people asked for permission to touch his hair as they had never seen such hair, now he said that people don't even see his colour. He is good for Lodz and the evidence is that people support him and have voted him in.
Jestem murzynem does not mean 'and proud of it,' so don't twist his words.
I just want to offer him a banana so bad!
He speaks awesome polish though, wonder if he can still use a spear.
He speaks awesome polish though, wonder if he can still use a spear.
trener zolwia 1 | 939
9 Dec 2010 / #250
I have actually heard Deputy Godson speak in very good Polish on a TV programme, he is very intelligent and at the end said himself 'I am black and proud of it'.
This is not good.
Tribal pride is always good.
trener zolwia 1 | 939
9 Dec 2010 / #252
"Polska dla Black-ów" they'd be cool with you, then?
Polka-dot black cows WHA??
You have Black and Asian TV stars and music stars... are you suggesting we get them off the TV in case Africans say, "Hey, I can go to Poland and be on 'Dance With the Stars'"?
I will say that blacks here enjoy MUCH more TV face time than their population share would suggest. This is due to Hollywood Libs trying to show the world how much they embrace blacks culture as they shove their contrived "diversity" down everyone's throats.
In UK there are a number of Black Conservatives
Not many over here but a few. They are a rarity.
if people feel this way and live their personal life to their personal beliefs, then OK... it's when they start forcing other people to do the same that there's a problem.
Yes, this is the problem with Libs.
Nobody has mentioned his policies, that's the point. The thread just bounced into 'no europeans in Poland' and 'watch out he'll bring all the others from Africa' without actually examining what he stands for. That's what people are calling racist.
Well I call it racist that his supporters seem to blindly support him without mentioning his policies. Which leads one to believe it's only because he's black.
The thing is that you have let your own experience of US politics 'colour' .... your reading of Polish politics.
It is from one's own experiences that we each draw our views. You and everyone else does the same.
Could it be that we Americans have been exposed to the great number of blacks .... that reside here, and have more experience with them than the Europeans?
Yes. We have such experience and we're trying to warn the Polish peeps so they can avoid such experiences.
this might give Europeans some kind of superiority complex because they can always point to US and the civil rights movement, segregation etc
Yes, they are quick to call us "racists" for merely conveying our experiences.
Yes, there is a rising abuse of political correctness (imported from US, I'd say!) and I would argue it has led to a rise in far right-wing politics in UK and Europe
The Left uses PC to bully their racial crap through. The rise of the Right you see is push back.
Poland does not have that history. This is why I am not sure that such a situation would arise as quickly if things are handled correctly. I also doubt that Poland will be as attractive a destination for many immigrants when they have UK, France, Spain
The key is 'handling it correctly' to stave off an influx. The fear is that a rise in outsiders will lead to a change in how such things are handled. Like us dealing with illegal Mexicans.
I suppose it is similar in the way many Americans beat themselves up with the Native American history/Slavery etc.
Only the folks who let their feelings of guilt control them -and try to force others to feel the same. Me, I never owned a slave nor have I ever killed an Injun. Meh.
I'm not saying you have a need to feel guilty, I am suggesting that SOME people use it upon themselves, others exploit their need to do so.
Yes, guilt gets exploited here like you wouldn't believe. It's an industry. Then it gets turned into reverse racism policy.
I've gotta say, Trev, I for one appreciate your efforts to understand and your conversational tone here. Unlike some other folks...
Ah, you're betraying your Nazi sympathies now
Everyone's a Nazi or a racist or blahblah silly tired labels... all those with which you disagree. :s
Jestem murzynem does not mean 'and proud of it,' so don't twist his words.
...I KNOW perfectly well, what 'Jestem Murzynem' means...he carried on, in Polish to say 'that he was proud to be one'. I, in the name of brevity cut this down here. YOU haven't heard him nor seen him, so don't exprtess an opinion about something which you know sweet f.a. about.
Yes, that s#cks. In job advertisements, when there are photos included of employees (whether or not fake) there's sometimes a black included. In Poland!
This is a big minus for me. The company is saying that, whilst Poland is a white country, they are desparate to have black employees as well. :|
I will think twice to join such leftwing company, in which colour is more important than skills.
He is probably ok, but why don't you guys understand that a Nigerian in the Sejm will attract many extra (mostly male) immigrants from Africa?
This is a big minus for me. The company is saying that, whilst Poland is a white country, they are desparate to have black employees as well. :|
I will think twice to join such leftwing company, in which colour is more important than skills.
Hes a decent, hard working and commited guy. Real help to the people. And last but not least a christian. I hope he will be fine. In western Europe the problem are '*******' and 'sand *******'. He is none of them.
Did your woman dump you for a Black guy?
He is probably ok, but why don't you guys understand that a Nigerian in the Sejm will attract many extra (mostly male) immigrants from Africa?
trener zolwia 1 | 939
9 Dec 2010 / #255
In job advertisements, when there are photos included of employees (whether or not fake) there's sometimes a black included. In Poland!
Really? Wow. So this contrived racial diversity crap has already started over there...
I will think twice to join such leftwing company, in which colour is more important than skills.
A company here and there is one thing; just wait until this crap gets written into official policy and it becomes law and you are openly discriminated against because of your white skin.
Jarnowa...How did "Vlaams Blok" get on this forum? Filip Dewinter dictating your postings?
You probably are rejoicing Marie-Rose Morel is about to die... (sorry for other forum members, me being Flemish could not resist this one)
I think this guy has every right to sit in the Sejm. He is competent, has local support.
How is it that a black member of the Sejm would attract more Africans? I understand that JK in Sejm attracts RM fans...
You probably are rejoicing Marie-Rose Morel is about to die... (sorry for other forum members, me being Flemish could not resist this one)
I think this guy has every right to sit in the Sejm. He is competent, has local support.
How is it that a black member of the Sejm would attract more Africans? I understand that JK in Sejm attracts RM fans...
I've gotta say, Trev, I for one appreciate your efforts to understand and your conversational tone here.
Thankyou. I prefer reasoned debate (but also enjoy a bit of rough occasionally). I know if someone comes on full force it gets my back up so I assume it's the same for others. :-)
He is probably ok, but why don't you guys understand that a Nigerian in the Sejm will attract many extra (mostly male) immigrants from Africa?
I suppose you might be right. Britains first ethnic MP was 1892, 3rd was 1920's and look what it led to 60 years later!
trener zolwia 1 | 939
9 Dec 2010 / #258
look what it led to
There goes the neighborhood.
Well I call it racist that his supporters seem to blindly support him without mentioning his policies.
I don't support him as a politician, I support the right of someone who wants to serve their (new) country to be given a chance to.
'Jestem Murzynem'
This is an important point, when we next have discussions about whether the word "murzyn" is racist.
delphiandomine 86 | 17823
11 Dec 2010 / #260
I don't support him as a politician, I support the right of someone who wants to serve their (new) country to be given a chance to.
I don't support him as a politician either, and I wouldn't vote for him - but he was democratically elected.
Then again, what can you expect from someone from a country which elected a President who didn't win the popular vote?
[quote=delphiandomine] don't support him as a politician either, and I wouldn't vote for him -[/quote
RACIST!
RACIST!
when we next have discussions about whether the word "murzyn" is racist.
Murzyn isn't but it might become if people make it into one, just like what happened with Negro, how many white people would get mad if someone called them Caucasian, who cares.
delphiandomine 86 | 17823
11 Dec 2010 / #263
how many white people would get mad if someone called them Caucasian, who cares.
Quite a lot of people got mad at the prospect of having a "Homo Sapiens" next door.
Murzyn isn't but it might become if people make it into one
There are some who already consider it to be...
Caucasian
heeheee, next time someone calls me caucasian I'll point out my family have never lived in that region.
Merged thread:
First Afro-Pole MP sworn in
Nigerian-born John Godson has been sworn in as the first black memebr of the Polish Sejm.
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First Afro-Pole MP sworn in
Nigerian-born John Godson has been sworn in as the first black memebr of the Polish Sejm.
thenews.pl/national/?id=144888
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my thought is that a thread of this subject already exists...
delphiandomine 86 | 17823
15 Dec 2010 / #267
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Well done to him.
We'll see if he does a good job in the Sejm.
Mr Grunwald 33 | 2132
15 Dec 2010 / #268
Poland does not have that history.
History is something one can go back to, it's an guide. But you need to open the book and read it and not only see the front page and think you have read it allready.
This is why I am not sure that such a situation would arise as quickly if things are handled correctly.
Indeed! Tradition has also an large impact on an persons logical thinking. Parents learn their kids what they learned from their own parents. The line may be broken one day, but it is up to everyone of us to decide that.
I also doubt that Poland will be as attractive a destination for many immigrants when they have UK, France, Spain and Germany.
Poland is growing, it need's people. Oportunities are opening. At those you mentioned their closing. Doesn't matter if it's an giant toy store or an handmaking toymaker. You look for what is aveliable.
The other history we have in Europe is the one in which you took part... WW2.
Yeah, the losses of so many people lead to "You want to do THAT again?"
Perhaps another thing is that whereas US had a large population of Black Americans.
America is founded on colonialism... Settlers ARE her PRIDE and ORIGIN. Fighting newer settlers just make me laugh really
Hisotry is somethign one can go back to, it's an guide. But you need to open the book and read it and not only see the front page and think you have read it allready.
Nice, I like that. I'll use it sometime ;-)
Nice comments. Thanks.
Mr Grunwald 33 | 2132
15 Dec 2010 / #270
Your welcome
I am bored :/
I am bored :/