John Godson, born in Nigeria, might become Poland Sejm's first black deputy!

You have right not to make any friendship with blacks but it doesn't mean you can persecute them. All those nice people of different race you've met don't deserve for your hate even if their fellows are cause of increasing crime rates.


It's different when someone wins and no one loses and when someone wins and someone loses therefor.

Zeti.. Go over this whole thread, and point out where at any time that i said that I hate blacks.. I only claimed that I reserve my right not to associate with them for cultural reasons.

I hate violence. iIhate drugs. I hate crime.. all that I ask is to allow me to live amongst the people of my choice

But not all blacks are drug users and criminals... are they?

Indeed. This is why I don't like discriminatory affirmative action. The playing field should be level and rewards based on merit.


That's fine and it's your choice. In Britain i had very few black friends. Not for any racist reason, simply that our paths didn't cross that much.

However, to use your right and preference as the basis to advise others how to accept incomers is not really on, is it?

Incidentally, all the multiculturalism and 'right-on' political correctness which is sprouting up in Europe these days is largely coming from your side of the pond... Thanks Franek!

So, why did "affirmative action" and so on actually increase during the Bush presidency?

Yep, and we're preparing for an influx of foreigners with the World Cup. I hope those African teams don't decide to stay here!

Again..Go over this whole thread, and show me where i advised anyone as to who they should associate with. I merely stated my preference as to who I wish to mingle with. you all are free to what ever you want. When I responded to this thread, i only expressed my view,And i think that i am entitiled to that.

Well, you said:


and he said:



Well, I'd say agreeing with someone who espouses those views is not too far from advocating those views yourself.

Now, maybe it wasn't those specific views but if you aren't clear why is that our fault?

jarnowa also said:


Which, speaking as an idiot who has never been there, I suppose is true.

I fault no one.. We are all entitled to our own views. But when I choose to agree with someone elses view, i am refered to as a racist..The word racist does not bother me..Even the states we who prefer to associate with our own are considered racist, rednecks, white supremecist .

When I speak of culture, Its like i prefer Easy listening or classical music over rap or hip hop.

I prefer a Polka or a waltz to dance to instead of dirty dancing

i prefer to call Christmas by that name instead of Kawanza

There are people over here who deny our right to celebrate Christmas.

These are but a few cilture clashes that are happening.. Maybe it is because of my age.. but I will resist to the end

wow so he won, i knew it would happen he seemed very ambitious with his work.

He's taking a seat, he wasn't elected.

Torq, you know he's a heathen Protestant minister? :)

what if some African American also prefer classical music over hip hop. We already had one guy on PF who played piano really great Wanna listen?

youtube.com/watch?v=JOZko3JLmCY

REALLY LOVE IT! :)

Would you also tell him that he doesn't belong to European culture and have no place in Poland?


I know funny video about that. Just watch:
...


These are just stereotypes. One of favourites American sterotype is about "dumb Polacks"...

No, i think that i mentionerd that there great black in this world also.


But arent you the same/ you have never been to the states. But yet you critisize Jarnowa for doing exactly as you are doing.

That stereotype is less and less often seen as true. Poles were victims of it because when they came to the US they ended up living in closed communities and didn't socialize with others, there were other nationalities. Nowadays people see that Poles come here get an education a good job, or open up a business and make money.

I was never in States but I read lots of comments made by American and Canadian citizens and I came across so called "polish jokes" many times. Whenever there is some news connected with Poland there are plenty of them. When was the presidental airplane crash accident on yahoo comments site there were loads of below any level of decency jokes about "Polacks" and "kielbasa" (made of Polacks). And these were comments of adult middle aged people! Also I've pointed few comments on recent Columb's roots "discovery"... it seems that when Columb was Italian it was grace but when someone states he might be Polish is a disgrace...

Some American called me a 3rd worlder and b1tch without any reason. So what should I think? Hopely this forum managed to make me think a little bit positive on Americans, because there are some nice people here and some Poles living there told me they never encounter any dislikes toward Poles... But judging on internet comments... well I wouldn't think anything good of Americans


Oh sorry. I see it was for Trevek. :)

Zeti, you cant believe everything you see on here. I dont know why Poles are treated like they are in England.. But America is a good country.. We poles are at the top of the scale.. The joke about Dumb Pollacks is stupid.. it might be just jealousy. Maybe its because of people like me.. I was raised during the great depression.. I only have an 8th grade education. This was because we had to quit school at an early age to get a job so we could help our parents out.. But after WW2. Life changed. I worked until 1965, and have no need to work since then.

It seemed that everything that I did was right. for the past 45 years i lived the life of luxury.. I have berated for my sucess by many people.. But my answer to them is screw you.

Oh cmon internet is a special place, you really shouldnt take seriously what people say here :)
On internet you can find mocking comments about almost anyone. According to internet french are all arrogant and smelly cowards, brits are fat and got yellow teeth, germans are nazis that dont wash themselves, any muslim is a terrorist, all asians are yellow gooks that talk like chingchangchong, poles eat mainly kielbasa and need 3 people to screw a lightbulb, and so on. And the people who get mocked the most are americans. I cant remember how many times Ive read about 'dumb and fat americans think that europe is a country'

Because Poles come to the UK and work illegally under the table undercutting local workers, they leech off of benefits, they're criminals, and they have a strange backwards culture that is unwanted. They refuse to speak the language, they're taking over neighborhoods, they live four to a room, they steal, are unambitious, sit around drunk all the time...

Wait, that all sounds very familiar... Are you right about blacks? Are a handful of bigoted Brits right about Poles? Maybe you're right and they're wrong? Oh, it's all so confusing. Are Poles hard working immigrants that reach the tops of the social hierarchy in their host countries, or are they lazy slobs who just leech off of welfare?

Zeti, anybody who believes in everything what people post online, must be pretty messed up...
you must use your common sense...

Why is it that here in the states, I never witnessed that.? During my whole long life, all of my recolections were that poles were hard workers. Along with other European immigrants.. Is there an explanation for this.?[ quote=convex]Wait, that all sounds very familiar... Are you right about blacks? Are a handful of bigoted Brits right about Poles? Maybe you're right and they're wrong? Oh, it's all so confusing. Are Poles hard working immigrants that reach the tops of the social hierarchy in their host countries, or are they lazy slobs who just leech off of welfare?[/quote]

You said it I didnt ( Grin)

There exists a sizable group in the UK that see Poles the same way as you see minorities in the States.

Mostly they are treated good. Polish jokes are American phenomenom spreaded on Canada and Australia.


Tell that Agnieszka Holland (Ona przy każdej okazji wypomina, że internet roi się od antysemickich wypowiedzi) ;D


Becuase you don't know people raised in PRL. That's one thing. The second thing (and most important) is that it's not true in most cases, just like your imagine of blacks is not always true.


So you agree that your imagine of blacks is the same bullsh1t as some Englishmen imagine of Poles?

AHA! Now the truth comes out.. We Americans are racist.. But Englanders are allowed to discriminte.. OK1 Now I understand.. Its a double standard. Uh HUH

Very much like WW2.. The English refered to us GI's as . As over paid, over sexed, and over here..

No it's all to explain you that it's pretty absurd that Poles may be racist while many of them falls victim of the same accusations as people of different race.

You're not following. Those English people that hold those views are bigots, much like Americans that hold the same views, tarring over entire races as opposed to just coming out straight with it and focusing on the bad behavior. Nationality doesn't have anything to do with it, try to stay away from that straw man.

Zeti .. Wszyscy jesteśmy shitters byka w sposób .. But that is the way that the cookies crumble, Darling

He's a whole lot more afro than Pole. He's about as much Pole as I am.


I watched an episode of Undercover Boss last night and there was a Polish guy that ran a high-rise window washing crew. He was a good guy, efficient and hard working, positive attitude... Sadly, and somewhat ironically, his child has Polio.


Just wait until you have an influx of lowlife blacks and all the issues they bring and then get back to us.


This is what you can expect from a black Leftist lawmaker. Suddenly Poland will find itself beaten with the racial PC bully club at every turn. Can't say we didn't try to warn yous.


Black-sympathetic Libs see this as some sort of twisted justice.


Obama is plenty black. Plenty.

You seem to support this guy, Zeti. Why? Are you a Leftist?

Cerebral palsy, no?

Most Poles who came to America encountered at least a few times a dislike for Poles. I remember growing up it happened pretty often, someone walking by would yell something, or start a fight with someone just because they were Polish. As my family moved into a better neighborhood it almost never happened, so before it had to do with living among "white trash" people who know nothing about Poles only stereotypes, and grew up hating Poles because they've heard bad things from their parents or friends. Real Americans aren't like that though.

Maybe you're right, Shawn. I swore I heard Polio but later I thought: 'that's weird, I haven't heard of a case of Polio here in forever...'