Poland 2050? What will happen?

Well, it's kinda like future history, innit? There have been many forecasts about Polish depopulation by mid-century to even as low as 20 million. Do you think that will happen? Or will Poland follow the lead of some West European countries where significant Thrid World immigration preventing the birth rate dropping?

Do you envisage any territorial changes? If Poland's currently superior GDP were to continue, by when would it approch the econ level of the West? Any other comments?

Forcasts made by monkeys bribed with bananas maybe by some evul anti-polish communist?


No, i believe we will have a growth when our Gdp starts get closer to the ones in Germany and France etc etc... Poles rather live in Poland you know, but some of them rather go where the money is.


How can a starving cow feed anyone else then her own little Calfs?


With the success of Poland the other countries that have been under Polish rule for centuries will realise that the only way to grow is to join back to it's true master Poland. And that would be Lithuania/Belarus/Ukraine! ;)


Max 20-30 years.

When the ragheads holocaust Israel, the Jews will head back home to Poland. That will fix the demographic problem.

I have always LOVED depopulation. The fewer the better and the more significant the individual. The culture and nationalism become stronger, more job opportunities, more resources for the people both direct like food and housing, and indirect like healthcare and education, and there are practically no poverty or unemployment rates. The populations of most western countries are dropping, but the uneducated third world sh*tholes are breeding more than ever. Then we have the media pounding us with overpopulation material thinking it's an overall human problem because they're too p*ssies to "discriminate" against races who are the true cause of this problem. So in short immigration is cool now, but I don't want to have to deal with all their cheap immigrants in the future because they chose to follow a cockroach philosophy to have me deal with the resulting problem.

Only when Poland comes to grips to itself and asks for Anschluß on Germany again (We won't call it partition this time)! ;)


Yeah....in Germany too...we need a convenient scape goat again...

You will, until such time as you come to draw your pension. That little Ponzi scheme is, sadly predicated on economic growth, itself in no small measure dependent on population growth.

Look at the rapidly deflating Russia and what is happening to its old population. A special case, Russia to be sure, but to say of the starving and/or freezing-to-death over 65s that their individual significance is in direct proportion to their numbers is just bizarre.

Maybe you guys should "Anschluß" Austria first ;). I mean you already started ww1 and ww2. So why not push the repeat button and start ww3?

Why WWIII...you yourself stated that countries should look at their more successfull "true masters!" and beg for entry??? Totally voluntarily!

What's good for the goose...

Of course if you were only joking you should say so! ;)
(But if you take the case of the EU you did kind of beg for entry - without one bullet fired)

No... They begged us ;)


Germany never was a master of Poland, just a occupier for 4-5 years ;)

In 2050, there will be no Poland. It will be called the Eastern Region, European Socialist Republic #16 or something like that. Sad. Nationalists like me are...so uncool these days.

Okay...maybe Prussia rings a bell?


"Mitteleuropa" sounds nice! :)

That is an interessting theory!
Poland should intensify propaganda about how Jews were living in Poland before the partitions!
That should make SOME come back!


Mittel sounds awefull
Middeleuropa! Middeleuropa! ;)


Before that happends we will have to send in propaganda films there and show that the most cruel opression was done by Nationa-Democrats which are today very unpopular and that Piłsudski had a plan for an united federation! And to apply such an idea is still possible! Also we will have to organize a coup'de attentate in Belarussia firlmy arranged so that the Russians won't get nasty! Hm We could let the Russians have monopoly on Vodka! But Poland will produce it's own version called "Gorzałka" with much older traditions mwuhahah :)


Sorry but comparing "occupation" by Poland on lands of 3 countries with Prussia occupying 1 country with the help of 2 other countries...
You couldn't even have the possiblity to claim ALL of nowadays Poland! Unless you will go back to Third reich or before Napoleon did his work

Okay...I'm not nitpicking..."Middel" Europa it is! :)
(Most Germans speaking it like you write it anyhow)

Yey!
Was I a bit pushy? :S

Nah...I want that all my subjects are happy... :):):)

I did know you would say that. But Prussia was never Germany ;),

And Prussia only had small parts of Poland. and Don't forget that Poland were masters over Prussia long before the prussians partioned Poland togheter with 2 other countries.

Without Prussia there wouldn't had been a Germany...say Thank You to prussian Bismarck for that! ;)

Anyhow I think a Poland becoming voluntarily part of Germany again is as high as your vision:

Poland, Li/Be/Ukra
Not Prussia/Germany, Poland :)

Yes Poles are nice xD


Subjects?
*Looks at his ID*
Oh my must have changed since I stood up ALL BOW TO THE NEW KING BB!

I wish Poland annexed Prussia when it still had the chance.

Stupid liberal poles doh!!!


Fair enough, let us all dream away for a while into our utopia...

Ey! King, King , KING! Don't blame the Szlachta for everything! ! ! ;)

Yea lets blame the saxon kings!!!!

Okay... :)

*thinks Gruni is on speed today*

Saxon?!
I thought we were talking about "Stary"

A za króla Sasa -- jedz, pij i pupuszczaj pasa*...were the bywords of the two Saxon monarchs whose courts wallowed in luxury and debauchry whilst the peasantry starved. Then as now the blind, unbridled pursuit of material wealth, pleasure, convenience and luxury leads into a blind alley.

* When a Saxon king is at the fore, eat, drink and loosen your belt s'more.

Yes yes, but we were talking about how lucky Prussia was since it wasn't strangled by Poland/Poles...

The date when Polonius will actually return to Poland....;p

Was there ever such a real chance? Obviously, a Prussia incoproated by Poladn-Lithuania would have prevented the emergence of Germany as we know it. I believe the Saxon kings spent most of their time at their court in Dresden. But WW2 could have been prevented if Piłsudski had pre-emptively invaded Germany before it could re-arm and develop Nazi rule.

Ah you're talking about the prussian homage!



Gosh it's a lovely painting. BB you should make a copy of this and hang on your walls at home as an reminder of your true master ;)

Well....it has been awhile, hasn't it? ;)

Between that picture and now lay 3 partitions,a war and countless football matches, each time Poland got thrashed.


Nah...german forces would had come to occupy Warsaw sooner or later anyhow. The relatively few polish forces would never have been able to hold down a people of 80 millions.

But then nobody would even try to help you to get your country back...you would get your righteous punishment after starting an agression (as it would then told in all history books).

Be glad nobody followed that "glorious" idea...you would still pay for it, even today!

Just like Germany has to pay for it in every single history book, painted as the worst war criminals in the history! I salut you!!!


Indeed but it will be in the history book for ever!!! Nothing you can exterminate my dear germ!!!