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Which French candidate for president will be best for Poland?


OP Polonius3  980 | 12275  
23 Apr 2017 /  #31
completely misleading

We are in an era of poltical correctness or post-truth, where not facts as they are but as utopian leftists thinlks they should be is what counts. The one with the most cleverly worded "narration" (slant on reality) wins out in today's media.
OP Polonius3  980 | 12275  
23 Apr 2017 /  #32
benefit paradise

Whther or not it's true, the masses of migrants think it is -- generous benefits for them and the families they later manage to bring over, maybe for a generation or two into the future. How many of them want to go to Croatia, Poland or Lithuania? No, it is Germany, Sweden and, although separated by the Channel, the UK that are their preferred destinations.
Lyzko  41 | 9615  
23 Apr 2017 /  #33
Put yourself in the place of some poor migrant, an innocent pawn of Merkel's Europolitics! Is your attitude fair to them?
:-)
mafketis  38 | 11009  
23 Apr 2017 /  #34
Put yourself in the place of a German taxpayer who sees more and more government resources diverted away from German citizens in need (some of whom have paid into the system for many years) and into migrants who receive far more than they contribute....

Put yoursel in the place of a German woman who's afraid to go out at night because of the sexual harassment from migrants.

Put yourself in the place of a German whose wife or daughter was sexually assaulted by a migrant just to seem them let off for some bvllsh1t reason (examples provided on request)

Is your attitude fair to them?
OP Polonius3  980 | 12275  
23 Apr 2017 /  #35
some poor migrant,

So let Europe, America and Australia open their borders to any third-worlder able ot make it to their borders. From what I have heard, the Australian coast guard used to fire upon boatloads of migrants trying to get in. That has served as a succsessful deterrent to the migrant invasion.
Towarzysz  
23 Apr 2017 /  #36
@delphiandomine
The ECB and the Troika have way too much oversight and power now.

They forced Ireland to pay for 42% of the cost of the European banking crisis to bail out the French and German banks. Did you know that?

If the Troika take over your country it is only to steal, plunder and colonise from your people, society and economy. The euro and the imbalance in the Eurozone economy due to Germany's artificial surpluses are great tools in aiding them to do that.

Wolfgang Schaueble destroyed the lives of East Germans to enrich his mates in the early nineties. It's why some poor crazy sod tried to kill him. He did the same to Greece in 2015 by setting up yet another privatisation slush fund under his own personal control.
Towarzysz  
23 Apr 2017 /  #37
@delphiandomine

You are joking me right?

You do know Britain murdered just as many Irish people as the IRA did in reverse?

The Dublin/Monaghan bombings which the Tories have covered up to this day for a start. The Thatcherite death squads-any Taig will do etc. The 1970s torture gangs. M15/M16 actually supported a ratcheting up of the whole campaign and ran informers on both sides to ensure 'terrorism' increased rather than decreased.

The IRA even warned them of many if not most of those bombings by phone. The point was often merely to blow up a landmark as a statement. The Brits let them go off for propaganda purposes.

Even the Omagh bombing came along at a very very convenient time for Tony Blair. The official story on that one has never really fit and I would not put it pass the Brits to blow up a small Irish town centre simply to force the Republicans to sign a treaty. Tony Blair certainly did far worse.

Let's not be selective about who were terrorists.

I can see British ignorance is alive and well.
Towarzysz  
23 Apr 2017 /  #38
@Polonius3

What Leftists? We live in Poland, there are no leftists.

I am disgusted by otherwise intelligent people being okay with grannies eating out of bins.

Does that make me a leftist?
Towarzysz  
23 Apr 2017 /  #39
@mafketis

Do you speak German? Have you ever lived in Germany or Austria?

I am pretty sure only 10-12% of voting Germans who vote AFD think like the 35% of Poles who vote for PIS.

Sorry to burst your bubble.

I am sure some Austrians share your views. Have you ever been to Linz? Hitler's parents are buried in Leonding. There are some nice shrines for you to visit.

Stick to the topic of this thread please
gregy741  5 | 1226  
23 Apr 2017 /  #40
Marie Le pen of course.
the other ones are nothing but left trash trying to disguise themselves into some centrists , cus leftist libtardation is completely discredited and hated in France.
delphiandomine  86 | 17823  
23 Apr 2017 /  #41
So you think a party that has openly been funded by Russia is better for Poland?

I mean, you really need to think about this one.
gregy741  5 | 1226  
23 Apr 2017 /  #42
So you think a party that has openly been funded by Russia is better for Poland?

first,can you provide me with any legal act that prohibits party donations? even if so,that acctually reasonable move to support someone who is your friend.

EU ,US,Germany ( grants to PO).they all funds NGOs,Parties ect.and you dont see nothing wrong with this.
i have no problem with Russia.yes.Putin is great friend of Poland.you just to blind to see it.
Joker  2 | 2253  
23 Apr 2017 /  #43
I can see British ignorance is alive and well.

It thrives here on PF

Tony Blair certainly did far worse.

Brits have this selective history thing going. Just ask them about WWII sometime....lol

FREXIT!
jon357  73 | 23133  
24 Apr 2017 /  #44
So you think a party that has openly been funded by Russia is better for Poland?

Le Pen is a fascist, and people don't like fascists.
johnny reb  48 | 7767  
24 Apr 2017 /  #45
Marie Le pen without a doubt.
Very conservative just like Poland.
Doesn't take a rocket scientist to see how the Lefts Liberal Socialism is destroying Europe.
She thinks along the lines of Trump with border control for a start.
Poland would be in complete support of that themselves.
La pen wants to "Make France Great Again !"
TheOther  6 | 3596  
24 Apr 2017 /  #46
Le Pen wants to "Make France Great Again !"

Le Pen wants to teach the French how to do the Nazi salute again. Read up on her father, and you'll know what kind of chick she really is.

Very conservative just like Poland.

Ha ha ha. She's a true fascist even though she claims not to be one. You want people like that to raise their ugly heads in Europe again? A win of Le Pen in France will be the end of the EU, and with it the Polish economy will go down the drain. It's not "Make France Great Again", it's "Make Europe Suck Again".
johnny reb  48 | 7767  
24 Apr 2017 /  #47
La Pen is exactly what France needs to clean the mess up there of immigration straining resources and "the free circulation of terrorists" which is destroying Europe and it's economy.

She is both anti EU and anti immigration.
Soon there will be nothing left to support Poland with.
Make France Great Again !

what kind of chick she really is.

"Chick" ?
jon357  73 | 23133  
24 Apr 2017 /  #48
Le Pen wants to teach the French how to do the Nazi salute again

Fortunately she will lose badly to Macron.
mafketis  38 | 11009  
24 Apr 2017 /  #49
Le Pen wants to teach the French how to do the Nazi salute again

source?

Fortunately she will lose badly to Macron.

Probably and the tensions bubbling under the surface will only get stronger (ensuring that when they do erupt it will be far worse than you can imagine).

The real takeaway from this election is that large scale low-skilled immigration (a cornerstone of neoliberal policy) hollows out the middle in the political system leaving only the extremes (as the UK might find out in June....).
TicTacToe  
24 Apr 2017 /  #50
The youth of France have a 50%> unemployment rate to look forward to if Macron the Rothschild political stooge wins. If he does win you will watch a transfer of wealth happen before your eyes, from the people to the banks.
OP Polonius3  980 | 12275  
24 Apr 2017 /  #51
will lose badly to Macron

French commentators have pointed out that Macron, who will probably win, has ready solutions for yesterday's France. His programme does not address the key issues facing the French nation today. Although LePen has helped bolster France's sense of national identity, diluted by years of lefty-liberal mutli-culti balderdash as well as by the confusion caused by the migrant invasion and attendant rise in terrorism, her main drawback is her russophilic stance. She actually wants to do away with sanctions against Putin's aggressors who at this very moment are waging war against a neighbour state.
Crow  154 | 9340  
24 Apr 2017 /  #52
France. State of nation separated from people, from itself. By savagery and sword people lured in treachery. Lost souls. When they stooped to be Gauls (ie Celts, ie Sarmatians, ie Slavs) to become Latinised French, why not now become something else?

Non of candidates can save them. Non to be saved.

Don`t allow it to affect Poland. Mourn them but continue.
gregy741  5 | 1226  
24 Apr 2017 /  #53
I got something interesting for you
who would poles vote for in French election ,scroll to bottom there is Polands map,just hoove with mouse over it:
fakty.interia.pl/raporty/raport-wybory-prezydenckie-francja-2017/korespondencje/news-francja-jest-wspaniala-i-wszyscy-jej-sluchaja,nId,2385988

Le Pen way over 60 % in every district ,Podkarpackie over 70%,Podlaskie 80%
muahahaha,no place for leftist trash in Poland
OP Polonius3  980 | 12275  
24 Apr 2017 /  #54
Leftists

Leftists are radical utopianists who want to turn everything on its head. They are waging war on people's cherished religious beliefs, want to replace the normal family with some alternative construct, force PC and multi-culti down people's throats and to show they have some human compassion shed crocodile tears over the homeless, refugees, etc., although they wouldn't want them living next door. Such liberal leftists, leftist liberals or just plain leftists populate the PO and Petru parties.
TheOther  6 | 3596  
24 Apr 2017 /  #55
Fortunately she will lose badly to Macron.

Let's hope the French are not as stupid as the Americans were in the last election...

The youth of France have a 50%> unemployment rate to look forward to

How so? It's a 23.6% at the moment.

source?

What I said is that Le Pen is a fascist who pretends to be a democratic politician.

"Chick" ?

You're right. Bi*tch is much better. :)
jon357  73 | 23133  
24 Apr 2017 /  #56
Let's hope the French are not as stupid as the Americans were in the last election.

Indeed. Worth mentioning though that more Americans voted for Mrs Clinton than for that orange-tanned fat-arsed ape. France fortunately has a better electoral system.
TheOther  6 | 3596  
24 Apr 2017 /  #57
Yep. The French system has some built-in safeguards to prevent nut jobs from taking over the country. The electoral system in the US is antiquated. Trump called it a "rigged system" before the electoral college handed him the presidency. Then he was all for it, of course...
Lyzko  41 | 9615  
24 Apr 2017 /  #58
Europeans also have the vote of no confidence, should the candidate elect do a p##-poor job his first term. Pity we never followed suit on that one. Would have saved us a lot of time, grief, and money!!!!
jon357  73 | 23133  
24 Apr 2017 /  #59
Pity we never followed suit on that one.

I read the other day that a lot of psychiatrists in America were expressing professional concerns. Here in Poland a president can be removed for ill-health and this is also possible in France. There are certainly deep-seated issues arising from Marine Le Pen's childhood however fortunately she won't actually be elected.
delphiandomine  86 | 17823  
24 Apr 2017 /  #60
who would poles vote for in French election ,scroll to bottom there is Polands map,just hoove with mouse over it:

Meaningless. These polls tend to get hijacked by whatever organised group finds them interesting at the time. There's plenty of Russia-loving Korwinists out there who flock to such polls, often manipulating them with multiple votes. I remember before the election in Poland, Korwin-Mikke was supposed to win as much as 25% according to online polls.

She actually wants to do away with sanctions against Putin's aggressors who at this very moment are waging war against a neighbour state.

Which is a huge danger for Poland. In fact, Poland should be doing everything in her power to fight against these pro-Russia populist types, especially if they're known to have received funding from Russia in some way.

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