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Which French candidate for president will be best for Poland?


TheOther  6 | 3596  
7 May 2017 /  #331
laugh at my French college

You are laughing at buildings? :)
Wulkan  - | 3136  
7 May 2017 /  #332
Autocorrection failed... colleague
johnny reb  48 | 7773  
7 May 2017 /  #333
same situation

Yup and it was the same situation with the immigration invaders, we tried relentlessly to tell the Liberals here what a huge mistake it was as they welcomed the idea with some even saying they were going to invite them into their homes and how these invaders were going to enrich the cultures of the crumbling EU.

(They sure have haven't they and the worst of it is still on it's way when their families start arriving to really tax the system)

They had their closed minds made up just like they do with this vote.
Now that they have seen what a horrible mistake Merkel made they are about to make another horrible mistake by electing Emanuel.
And once again we will be saying, "We told you so" after it is to late.
I'm afraid Europe is in for some very hard times coming.
delphiandomine  86 | 17823  
7 May 2017 /  #334
Looks like this will be yet another failure for the right - they've failed in the UK a few days ago, they failed in the Dutch elections, they're failing now and they're going to fail in Germany.

Europe is clearly rejecting the cancer that is Russian-financed nationalism, and we're all the better for it.
jon357  73 | 23139  
7 May 2017 /  #335
Looks like this will be yet another failure for the right

An abject failure. Turnout so far in the election looks pretty good, and despite the very short odds there was a multimillion pound surge on bets yesterday.

Russian-financed nationalism

The scandal over this is just going to get bigger.
johnny reb  48 | 7773  
7 May 2017 /  #336
Get in line to exchange your Zloty for Euro's and start conditioning the Polish children for globalism.
delphiandomine  86 | 17823  
7 May 2017 /  #337
Good news. It's certainly a far better option than switching them for rubles and preparing them for a life under the Russian boot.
johnny reb  48 | 7773  
7 May 2017 /  #338
Russian boot.......German boot........one in the same.
Crow  154 | 9341  
7 May 2017 /  #339
American boot, too.
johnny reb  48 | 7773  
7 May 2017 /  #340
They failed on the Brexit, they failed on immigration, they are going to fail in both France and Germany.......I just hope this failure only spills over on Poland with minimum effect.

The scandal over the Rothschild and Builderberg donations will be forth coming for years to come.
Most likely it will take at least a year or more before we find out who Macron is employed by.
As fast as Europe is crumbling one would have to think that it really makes no difference who gets elected as the EU is doomed anyways.

Le Pen may have been able to prolong any hope however.
I hope this forum is up and running in five years so we can say, "We told you Liberals so."
Joker  2 | 2255  
7 May 2017 /  #341
Le Pen may have been able to prolong any hope however.

Obama just endorsed Macron, could be the kiss of death...lol

"We told you Liberals so."

When the terrorists blow up Paris, guess what? We told you so!
jon357  73 | 23139  
7 May 2017 /  #342
It looks like much of this is down to two individuals called William Craddock and Jack Posobiec, both connected to the so called 'alt right', with early involvement fromm Russian linked sources: liberation.fr/elections-presidentielle-legislatives-2017/2017/05/06/wikileaks-joue-clairement-un-role-dans-la-propagation-des-macronleaks_1567719
Joker  2 | 2255  
7 May 2017 /  #343
As fast as Europe is crumbling one would have to think that it really makes no difference who gets elected as the EU is doomed anyways.

It has really gone down hill over the past 20 years and they don't even notice it when its right in the own back yards.

Europe is becoming another Islamic State thru Political Correctness. Sad!
cms  9 | 1253  
7 May 2017 /  #344
Well I will wait until the results come in :) fingers crossed the polls are right this time

Interesting that on this thread the people hoping for an outcome that would damage Poland are

- Serbs
- Russian trolls
- PolAms who had a few too many toasts down the Red Apple buffet

would love to hear from an actual Frenchman. Are there any Franco Poles on the forum ?
Bieganski  17 | 888  
7 May 2017 /  #345
It looks like much of this is down to two individuals called William Craddock and Jack Posobiec, both connected to the so called 'alt right', with early involvement fromm Russian linked sources

Yes, well, a hallmark of conspiracy theories is that they have more twists and turns than a Hollywood film with both never reflecting reality.

Still, no explanation as to the need for Russia to be trying to turn votes against leftist globalists in Europe and America.

And why wait to the eve of voting to leak material? It's well known that the left controls the media on both sides of the Atlantic and will matter-of-factly suppress stories or distract the populations with sports and celebrity gossip. It would have been far more damaging for any leak to be made earlier so the French public could learn about and absorb it to the point where the leftist media and their darling globalist candidate couldn't ignore it.

Also, nothing will weaken the West more than culturally dividing immigration and ultimately the trillions it will cost to fund it. It would make far more sense for Russia to support such candidates rather than nationalists.

As time goes on this "blame the Russians" theme seems more like sour grapes from a generation of Soviets and their descendants who made their way to the West and Israel after losing power in Russia and the former Warsaw Pact countries.

Globalism is nothing more than a rebranding of The Communist International and it is clear who supports it and why.
jon357  73 | 23139  
7 May 2017 /  #346
Interesting that on this thread the people hoping for an outcome that would damage Poland are ...

Pretty well. In real life it's proven beyond doubt that Le Pen has received funds from Putin, and the origins of the data theft against Emmanuel Macron's campaign are known. Whether or not Le Pen knew about the data theft before this week's debate will be doubtless be confirmed one way or the other in the forthcoming court case.
johnny reb  48 | 7773  
7 May 2017 /  #347
Le Pen has received funds from Putin,

And she admitted it so ?
Speaking of forthcoming court cases................
Macron received ten times as much from Rothschild who is under indictment for banking fraud. (A criminal)
And Macron won't admit it so who has more integrity ?
Why aren't the bias Liberal news media investigating that story ????
jon357  73 | 23139  
7 May 2017 /  #348
Exit polls are showing a 62.5% win for Macron.

And she admitted it so ?

She'd be very wise to remain silent given that the prosecutors are now formally involved.

Macron received ten times as much from Rothschild

Cobblers.
johnny reb  48 | 7773  
7 May 2017 /  #349
Fresh off my personal news hotline !
France's presidential voting watchdog called on the Interior Ministry today to look into claims by the Le Pen campaign that ballot papers are being tampered with nationwide to benefit Mr Macron.

The Le Pen campaign said electoral administrators in several regions who receive ballot papers for both candidates have found the Le Pen ballot "systematically torn up."


If ya can't beat em'.......cheat em'.
jon357  73 | 23139  
7 May 2017 /  #350
That would have to be a hell of a lot of ballot papers given the size of his majority.

I think we can very safely assume that Le Pen is talking her usual crap.
johnny reb  48 | 7773  
7 May 2017 /  #351
I think

Your thinking is sometimes questionalble at best jon.
Did you hear about Macron's associate dying shortly after the leaked e-mails were published ?
This is sounding more like the Killary campaign all over again.
Corinne Erhel, socialist lawmaker died after collapsing on stage during a speech at a campaign rally for Macron.
She was only 50 years old and was the last to speak at the rally Friday in western France when she suddenly fell to the ground.

She was rushed to hospital, where she was pronounced dead.
The Russians had to of been behind it. :-/
jon357  73 | 23139  
7 May 2017 /  #352
That or ill health. I once saw a politician collapse at the hustings.

Anyway, the good guy won, the independent candidate, the best choice for France and the best candidate for Poland.
mafketis  38 | 11009  
7 May 2017 /  #353
Anyway, the good guy won.

As bad as Le Pen is, I can't find anything positive in Macron (financial insider) either.

My prediction: The public will grow disenchanted with him very quickly and he will do less than nothing to address legitimate voter concerns on a number of issues and either Le Pen will grow (even in defeat this is a far better showing than her father managed) or an even more rightist candidate will take her place.

Not much of a happy ending for anyone who can see three moves into the future....
jon357  73 | 23139  
7 May 2017 /  #354
address legitimate voter concerns

I would have certainly preferred Hamon or Melanchon, however I doubt they'd have picked up the Fillon voters.

Good that a political outsider has won for a change.
mafketis  38 | 11009  
7 May 2017 /  #355
a political outsider

oh dear.... you really think that?
jon357  73 | 23139  
7 May 2017 /  #356
Pretty well yes - les gracques were originally a group of enarques who were unhappy with traditional party political structures and Emmanuel set up his movement (originally a youth movement) outside them. The main parties are fuming, and let thm fume.

He comes from a good socialist background, however his business-friendly approach wouldn't work so effectively within the party or union structures/
Wincig  2 | 225  
7 May 2017 /  #357
The Le Pen campaign said electoral administrators in several regions who receive ballot papers for both candidates have found the Le Pen ballot "systematically torn up."

Dear Johnny, are you aware that French voters receive ballot papers also at home? Yes, one for Marine and one for Macron.. So even if what you write were true (which I very much doubt), voters can always take their papers from home to the polling station and use them...
Wulkan  - | 3136  
7 May 2017 /  #358
- Russian trolls

name one LOL
Lyzko  41 | 9615  
7 May 2017 /  #359
Machron appears to be maintaining a healthy lead and so this encouraging. On the other hand, it's never over 'till the fat lady singsLOL
jon357  73 | 23139  
7 May 2017 /  #360
it's never over 'till the fat lady singsLOL

Or gets locked up in an oubliette or on Devil's Island for political fraud ;-)

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