Poland's Economy Is Booming! The EU's Success Story?

In short Poland is getting nothing for free, there only few people who are gaining, Poland is led to believe they are getting something.
Poles do not deserve that, they would deserve a real help after 1989 but all they got was usual shite .....


Did they really ?Wasn't that something they were told ?
In any case they weren't fighting for freedom of mine family members, so while you are talking to Poles (although 1 in 10 on this site is actually Polish) you can keep your British combatant complex to yourself !


Those Soviets in charge in Poland wouldn't even bat an eyelid.

I see that you haven't spend any time in south-east Poland in the last few years: the number of projects being co-funded by the EU down there is staggering.

Poland got nothing for free? ... are you really worth bothering with?

The Germans would have destroyed the Polish 'untermensch' if it wasn't for the contribution that the British men and women that gave up their lives and freedom to help them.Honestly, Some younger Poles now are just ungrateful little ignorant *****s! Next time you are in Poznan take a wander to the Commonwealth war cemetary and learn the meaning of the work respect! Poland now doesn't have an armed force and will again rely on the Uk to dig you out of your next hole. So much for combatent complex.

It's about time the the Polish people started growing a back-bone against corrupt and useless politicians that keep dragging them from one crisis to another on the promise of some free and easy money. Poland finally needs to try to become really independant and develop itself from a 'poor' second-world country ...but with people like you mate....it will never happen!

Keep telling yourself that Poland is the best country in the world. Whilst you do that change the wheel on your ox-cart.

co-founded that the key, also there plenty of business from Europe which make monies in Poland and take grist to the mill elsewhere.

Harry is back :D

But Harry is correct. So Ironside thinks that all the other EU countries should just give the Poles money for nothing in return. How naive!!

Does that mean you're prepared to give back your share of the EU funds which have flowed to Poland?


Or we could simply compare the Poland of now with the Poland of pre-EU times and see whether Poland would be better or worse off than it is now if it hadn't had at least 200 billion zloty injected into it.

Put it into perspective.

Poland's GDP growth due to investment is 0.7% (see previous post). Nice , but most the the GDP growth has come from exports and internal demand. Total GDP since EU Entry is about 12,600 billion pln (wild guesstimate), so the EU is responsible for about 1.5% of GDP since then.

However, Poland is in the EU and gets funds from it; you cannot separate it. Maybe without EU entry Polands economy would have done much better. Nobody will know for certain. 'Whats if's' are all well and good, but you can 'what if' an entire economy away until you have nothing left. Its meaningless, Poland is in the EU and gets EU funding.

wbj.pl/article-59487-mimimum-wage-to-rise-by-zl100-next-year.html

LOL


Notice how they don't mention the rise in relation to the hourly rate,that would just make it all the more laughable.
lol,, all this does is highlight how criminally low Polish minimum wage is?? Anyone got the stats on the percentage of people on this slavery wage? What the tax/zus rate for Poles on minimum wage.

Bigger demand here and at least they mention the hourly rate
Along with spending on school modernization and renewable energy development, the Rebuild America Act calls for raising the minimum wage from the current federal level of $7.25 to $9.80 -- a 35 percent hike -- over the course of two and a half years, then indexing it so it rises with the cost of living. For restaurant servers and other tipped employees, the minimum wage before tips would leap from the current $2.13 to $6.86, and then track at 70 percent of the normal minimum wage.

Tell us how much you earn per hour Milky?

What Criminal wage are you paid?

What do you think Poles should be paid in your communist Utopian world?

Why do you think its acceptable to mock Poland for being poor?

When in Ireland I earned just over the average industrial wage and the same here in Poland.


I've never been on Polish minumum wage, but several of my closest friends here in Poland are on it.
What are you earning?? can you relate to people who actually "live in Poland", or in your Fascist reality are the people in Eastern Europe just unlucky campers in the free-market.


Stupid Brit

well said milky.. Peter weg is a polish tourist who thinks what the polish government tell him is Fact!

Balcerowicz: envious of the neighbors

Poles have long held a fascination with the next-door Czechs as an exemplar of hard-headed economic virtues that their own more romantic country would be wise to follow - something that arch-reformer Leszek Balcerowicz referred to when calling on countrymen to tackle more reforms, pointing out that Czech borrowing costs were lower than Poland's.

The latest cost of 5-year credit default swaps (the cost of insuring against default) for the Czech Republic is 127.1 basis points, not far above Germany's 107.1, while Poland is at 239.7bp (albeit far below Spain and Italy and in a different universe from Greece).

But on closer inspection it may be that the bourgeois virtues of the Czechs are overestimated, and the sword-waving Poles are actually doing better than the market numbers suggest - at least that's the argument from Andrzej Bratkowski, a hawkish member of the central bank's interest rate setting Monetary Policy Council. quote]

blogs.ft.com/beyond-brics/2012/06/12/euro-cds-2012-czech-vs-poland/

Again Peter ignores comments writtin by people who LIVE IN POLAND!

wbj/article-59495-poland-attracting-more-foreign-tourists.html

YAWN!!

FT's special report on Poland

One article from the list (mod, please don't cut this, its subscription only article)


ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/bef5a860-ab09-11e1-b675-00144feabdc0.html

Crap journalism. There were motorways in Poland then - Konin-Wresznia was open, as was the A4 from Olszyna to Wroclaw.


He isn't going far enough, though he's doing a good job so far.

A slight exaggeration more than bad journalism. How many km was there? 250Km??

You've been reprimanded by the Polish government information spokesman.

I can see why he said that.
stadiony.klszarak.org/scc_a_s.swf

THAT WEBSITE IS AMAZING.

Thank you my friend, I'll play with this for hours!

(roadgeek)

No problem Delphi, it clearly shows that at least in some, very important ways, Poland is booming! :)

I think for him motorways are a 2 way paved road..whereas for Americans its a 4/5 lane,oneway highway..and in UK also there are 2way highways so maybe he is confused there:)

Have you ever heard of the Trojmiasto?

Never ever open skyscrapercity.com, then.
Especially:
skyscrapercity.com/forumdisplay.php?f=813
or:
skyscrapercity.com/forumdisplay.php?s=0db85020fd816b498977d1ea8d2b7d9a &f=240
You will be threaten by death of starving.

Poland to become the second-best investment destination in Europe, according to report by Ernst & Young

"In the next three years Poland will be Europe's second most attractive investment site after Germany"

wbj.pl/article-59586-poland-second-best-investment-destination-in-europe.html

was in Poland for the 1st time in may. amazing place. so friendly

Bored by these posts! Of course it's attractive...attractive cheap workforce. But with highish inflation and an ever growing wage demand this won't be for long.

Really but that's not what you said in your previous posts. Would that make a stinking liar?

In his post above he states that it's attractive due to the cost of labour (eg low pay, 'cheap workforce'). Unless he has previously said the workforce is not cheap, then that does not make him a liar. I too wonder how the salaries can remain low if the cost of housing remains where it is, and the price of essentials such as food takes proportionately much more out of a Polish wage than it does in other European countries like Britain, Germany, etc.