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What will drive Poland after 2020 - when Eu funding dries up?


cms  9 | 1253  
20 Dec 2016 /  #91
That is not backed up by any data, and again its incorrect - numbers and evidence are not really your forte. Warsaw residential prices are up roughly double since 2004 according to the NBP. In other big towns increases are smaller. In other categories - office, retail - the increases are far smaller, due to more supply.

In any case the richest 0.1 percent will not have all their money in real estate.

Unless you can prove otherwise my view is that the increase in wealth for the 99.9 percent in Poland has moved faster than for the 0.1 percent.
OP After2020  
20 Dec 2016 /  #92
CMS, provide facts and figures,not your assumptions. I like the way you side step the agricultural land issue. 2003/4 you could have bought agricultural land legally for 2-4,000 zlots per hectare,today you would be paying at least 8,000 zlots per hectare. The richest 0.1% of Poles do not reside in Poland my friend. All high spec projects in Warsaw worth investing into since 2004 have been by invitation only.
cms  9 | 1253  
21 Dec 2016 /  #93
the most respected measure of inequality is the Gini coefficient - Polands has decreased since 2004, in every year except 2008 and by 10 percent - meaning that it is becoming a more equal society as it gets richer. It has a similar Gini score to Ireland, Germany, France and Switzerland.

But agricultural land is mostly owned by small farmers - the same people you said have never had it so bad. In fact they do have a shock coming - they now sit on illiquid assets that banks will hesitate to take as security for that new car.

This is my last post on this thread because your central arguments just make no sense - that the EU is bad for Poland when in fact it has been great. The previous government outperformed their Czech and Hungarian neighbors and helped deliver great increases in living standards and disposable income to all sections of society. The gap between rich and poor in Poland has not increased since 2004 in relative terms. There is no threat to "polish culture" from the EU that you can name, and there is no mainstream party that supports leaving the EU in Poland.

Meanwhile plenty of fun watching the UK prime minister yesterday keep giving evasive answers about Brexit and no date yet as to when they are going to execute the will of the turkeys that voted for Christmas.
OP After2020  
22 Dec 2016 /  #94
What you don't seem to get is the EU's Mr Timmerman is issuing empty threats to PIS, threatening to invoke article 7, article 7 was created as a deterrent never to be used, the same is with article 50 and Bexit, the UK will get the deal they want because the EU needs the UK, the EU is like a needy boyfriend trying to keep hold of a wantaway girlfriend. Brussels cannot impose liberalism by diktat; and other governments do not seem minded to rock the boat when they are trying to plug the leaks sprung by other crises. Kaczynski and May will win their battle, because EU has no idea how to fight. CMS, statistical data provided by governments to the world bank, your having a 'bubble bath.'
polinv  
22 Dec 2016 /  #95
If the remainers could stop bringing court cases and just accept the result (parliament has as shown recently), then article 50 will be triggered by the end of march next year. Negotiations will take longer than most expect, but in that there is opportunity.
Crow  154 | 9239  
22 Dec 2016 /  #96
Yes, and outside the EU it seems like Serbia is thriving. Your Croat and Slovenian neighbors must look at you with envy

Slovenia turning to Serbia, more and more, again and again, while regime in Croatia deeper and deeper sinking into nazism.

These days Serbia restored and restoring its position as regional military power. Let it be on behalf of all Serbians and Slavs in the region exposed to germanization and islamization.

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