Die Welt-Poland and Germany are the economic driving force of Europe

GW, it's going to affect me and you and every other American, possibly worldwide markets. It's a serious matter! You should forget about your "lols" and seriously consider what it means...

it's not even about that PP, he was talking about China, the USA wasn't even in the picture so what was the reason for you to change the subject like that if not the fact that you despise (saying nicely) the US?

Just be a "man" and finally admit it. Listen, no one will be hatting you for your opinion. You don't need to love America but don't say that you care and then your actions show something else.

It's probably going to have an impact on China, gw, if you would bother to look thru something besides tunnel vision. It most likely will impact global markets. It's something to think about now, before it happens, instead of being surprised when it does...

Well,as a simplification,maybe,but those vocal types tend to be insulting to all organised religion,I doubt many of them have set foot in a Protestant church either.

The most vocal on the mainland tend to be Scots from certain areas,I dont get it myself but its there....
Yes,we have Baptists,of all shades, half a mile from me now is a 11th century Church,in its time its been Catholic then changed in the reformation to Protestant,a little further away is a Methodist chapel,one of the oldest as Methodism started 8 miles from here, in the main town of the area you have quite a few catholic churches,baptist,church of england,church of scotland,Sihk gudwaras(temples) muslim mosques,anabaptist places,seventh day adventists and a scattering of "african" evangelical churches as well as a Quaker meeting hall,a couple of Jeahovahs witness halls and a large Mormon church......so,yep,pretty well cover all basis in the UK re religion(oh,yes,theres some jewish temples about 30 miles away)

Look I'm posting links (many) to prove that we all are in trouble to show that it's not just an American phenomenon while you strictly concentrate on the US like there's nobody else in the world going through the same hell. Who's got the tunnel vision now PP?

The area where I live it's mainly all about the Baptists and the Methodists but mainly the Baptists.

If you can aford it buy gold. That's always a good investment. Who knows which currency will be the 'healty' and 'dominant' one in the next couple of months, years... ;-)

Gold or some other commodity everyone needs...

gw, I am not just focusing on America. We need to get our own house in order before worrying about everyone else's.

so why did you suddenly change the subject when no one was talking about the US?
Hey, it doesn't matter, you're entitled to love or hate whoever you want, just be open about it.

I was wondering if those two are related, China crisis and US mortgage resets. It's known to insiders as "ripple through economics".

Hm... it seems that source of your graphic is here:

They have cool map/graphic here with three years history: ims.destatis.de/aussenhandel/Default.aspx

In German, but still informative.

This is all you need for global economic statistics really: data.worldbank.org/data-catalog

Here, I've set it up for you:

I selected Poland and Germany and now you select what indicators in what categories you want to compare them in.

What Russia is not a top import or export partner of Germany?

Why so surprised? geography matters. Even Poland is bigger trade partner for Germany than Russia. But I understand that popular view about it is somehow different because of:

- they sell resources -> important
- when the sell resources then those are big deals in TV in prime time with prime ministers
- they have big luxury market...

Russians has Europe in a corner with a gas pipeline and it is going to use the fact mafia style.

They are just going to use the given opportunity which is in their hands. That doesn't have anything to do with 'mafia style'. Simple equasion of who has the power.

all governments are like mafia, you pay taxes you will not go to jail.
banks defrauded tax payer they have to give cut to fed. gov. no jail time.
Power isn't everything, it's the only thing.

Correct.
I was trying to avoid with my comment, that 'mafia style' is an exclusive Russian thing, though the label for that was given to them by the West whose 'mafia style' is in difference to the Russian maybe just more 'silky'... ;-)

That's not true about our government. It might not be the best right now but it's far from being mafia like. More like it's is too close to big business but not like the mafia.

ok PlasticPole stop paying taxes see how it is going to work out for you.

You have to pay taxes everywhere. Paying taxes in the US isn't so bad. You get plenty in return compared to other countries. It could be much worse. I hope it doesn't get worse because there are people who are trying to take us in that direction right now. They want to raise taxes on the middle class while cutting all the budgets for everything, roads, schools, etc.

That is why I said all governments are like mafia, you pay taxes you will not go to jail.
In Europe you pay taxes but you get universal healthcare so you do not die from minor illness.

Mafia is worse because they throw you in the river with little cement blocks attached to your ankles.

Please define universal health care... Specifically, what is so universal about the care?

the doctor fee is payed by government

A question and a hypothetical if you don't mind...

Are you saying a person paying into universal medical system has unlimited access to a provider?

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So when a patient, and elderly patient, in a universal medical care system is diagnosed with cancer and needs a PET scan the European government providing such care picks up the tab?

How long does that patient have to wait for the modality?

Simply put,yes. The elderly patient,unless they are a newcomer to this country has paid all their life into a national insurence scheme,but even those who havnt paid or as much dont get turned away .


A lot less time than an old person or young person struggling to raise the money to pay for it.
Its not perfect,but thats why we have the choice to go private here,but I still prefer it to the idea of being turned away for treatment because some buisness doesnt see me as viable.

Its got to be said I was surprised to hear that a pole suggested in the US that Doctors were the 2nd most hated proffesion,im not sure if it was after lawyers or realters(sp).certainly thats far from the case in any country where Doctors arnt in medicine to make big money but are in it to do good on the whole.

i know Italian health system has base system that provides the care then you can buy privet insurance to supplement. Lets say that you are need to stay in hospital if you have a base system you will share room with one or two people and if you have supplemental then you can get privet room in the same hospital and the same doctor.

How much would supplimental cost? The problem isn't health insurance, it's the cost of health care...
A couple of ways to make it cheaper:

1. More lower paying positions like Certified Nurses Aides instead of RNs, LPNs, MDs and DOs.

2. More volunteers, like nuns. They used to do a lot of the nursing chores for free.

the solution is single payer, no more profit for not providing care.

You mean pay as you go? What about if you need expensive tests? Prescriptions? Procedures? You will have some enormous bills that way...

Oh, I forgot, another way to lower costs. The most important one! Cut the pay of all the administrators ;)
That alone will make it a lot cheaper.